Morning sickness go away but don't come again another day.... Let's start glowing for all the right reasons! Jan 2015 thread 4...

[Dec2013mummy]

Morning sickness.... What a lie! Here come a load more unwanted pregnancy symptoms... Oh but it will all be worth it for our new year bundles :)

I don't really post, but have been reading everything. Think i was first to have a scan today. All is well, and just the one wriggler. The scan said i was 12 +5, instead of 12, so my due date has altered. But I am sure of my dates so am sticking with Jan 1st!

Thanks keepon I dont think thats patronising. It was only after that I found out a natural occuring labour would have been less painful. I guess I had nothing to compare it to but every birth is so different I'm scared it might be the same again. I think its a good idea to talk through past births with our mw Keepon, and anyone else who still feels it is v fresh, to see if that helps us prepare better for this time. I am fully aware though that if things go fast, I wont have time for an epidural and will just have to suck it up. I can do it, I know I can, so can you, but it doesnt mean I want to!

Congrats closetoyou! Great news

bangkok i had a full bladder and had to go to the loo, they said i didnt need it and was so full the probe was slipping off my tummy!!

keepon can totally understand why youd want to explore hypnobirthing, I'll have to watch OBEM tonight, im excited to see it in practice!

We had some very shit news today about my DH's good friend with the brain tumour, it is cancerous and he's got about a year to live and needs chemo to live that long. His kids are 4 and 5, I'm totally devastated for him and them too. It's so horrible that they will go through losing their dad like I did around the same age so I'm feeling very emotional today and have had lots of tears. It really goes to show that life can be amazing one day (happy 12 week scan) and then shit the next. He doesnt know i'm pregnant yet but we need to tell them soon, it's going to be a horrible conversation

Morning all, lovely news Closetoyou :)

sorry - more questions Im afraid!!
I had a letter through this morning for a consultants appointment (approx. 17 weeks).

I knew I would be consultant led due to last time, but can anyone confirm what happens at this appointment?

I had assumed it would be after 20 weeks following the anomaly scan (tiny risk of hereditary issue) so they could discuss that issue plus my request for C/S in one appointment - but at 17 weeks no idea on why they would want or need to see me.

Anyone else consultant lead know what the purpose of this appointment could be?

Awful news saraswati how terrible for your friend's family and for you to relive painful memories.

I have no idea about consultant care sleep sorry

terrible cross post, sorry sara that's truly shit. All you can do is be there for them the best you can be. Life can be terribly cruel sometimes xx

saras that is just dreadful. My goodness I couldn't fathom what he must be feeling. Poor man. Hope you are both ok too, must be very painful.

mini I have a debrief at 16 weeks (basically were they will try to talk me out of a caesarean I imagine...) but no - my midwife is wonderful and I am sure she will inform me what went 'wrong' ... So I can at least make an informed decision on what to do this time. I remember I couldn't even talk about the birth initially. I honestly thought the worst at the time (when docs and nurses had to rush in and pull her put!) but thankfully all was ok. Sorry to scare first timers but my birth wasn't the norm and if you do suddenly have a room full of docs - don't think the worst! I did, and it basically is what happens if you need assistance to get baby out (instrumental).

Anyway, this time round I am sure all will be easier -as you say mini- it often is, they say. I just don't know if I wish to risk it! As you say, second births are speedier so less time for drugs , which I like the idea of ... But hmm, I am a realist too :/

Did you have a debrief mini?

sleep can't offer much advice except for my consultant obstetrics appointment is for the week after my anomaly scan (scan on 13th aug then appointment on 20th) I know my issue isnt hereditary so im not worried about it really and it wont affect pregnancy, its just unusual so i know they'll want to keep an eye on me. Maybe you should call and just check its the correct way around?

Yep its totally shit news, nothing we can do about it but my DH is googling charity runs and things he could do, he wants to do something positive and I think thats the best thing we could do for the moment. I'm glad he's trying to channel his emotions into something positive, thats why I love him, whereas I'll just sit and cry!!

Thanks mad I have grounds (had lots of problems after brith too due to haemorrhage) , so I know they cannot say no. I am not saying I want an elcs - but I would like it as an option.

On a chirpier note, you had a 9lber on gas and air!? High five!

I didnt have a debrief, I wish I had as it might have helped them take me more seriously. I know they like to avoid epidurals and other interventions. I will speak to my mw when I have the next appointment at 16w.

What a man saraswati

mini I am having mine over a year on. Never too late :) interventions - being induced for eg, lead to more epidural says pain is often stronger. Epidurals can lead to instrumental delivery - which can cause a PPH. It's a viscous circle! Hence why I would love to have the guts to do hypnobirthing !

I did a hypnobirthing course lat time as I was having daily panic attacks about birth. I have a really big fear of it and even panic of I see a cartoon or anything!! It was great at helping with my anxiety and I truly believe that it can work in the right situation. Ds was however back to back and kept trying to turn which pushed my backbone out. Hypnobirthing in that occasion was not enough to get me through, but it did help to prepare me and I was not fearful during labor like I thought I would be. I can only hope next time round is a little quicker and less complicated. Only time will tell. One thing is for sure though, if I can do it again so quickly (Ds is 6 months) then it's got to be worth it!!

Sara how awful, I'm so sorry to hear that. Even though they're going through this horrendous time, it is possible that your happy news will provide some momentary relief from their suffering.

I'm well up for hynobirthing. From the little I've already read around the subject, it sounds like the kind of mindful escape I already use to control pain in the face of my resistance to anaesthetic. I've had quite a bit of pain over the years; head-on collision without an airbag/severe gallstones/countless broken bones (I'm clumsy)/chronic toothache and root canal without anaesthetic and throughout all of these have used zoning-out, visualisation and breathing to manage the pain so I can't wait to get started on learning official techniques for hypnosis for birth. Thanks so much for that link, Mini, I've been searching for a while for a recommendation for MP3s like that to use this early in pregnancy.

There's a fantastic looking hypnobirthing practitioner near me who set up Mindful Mama, I plan to book in for her classes. I'm reluctant to tell too many people IRL about this though as I'm sure the majority will find it hilariously lentil-weaving and be patronising about how I have no idea how painful its going to be and scoff at the idea that I might want to try to manage my pain this way...

Can't wait to hear how todays' scans went, ladies!!

Hypnobirthing even helps if you have a csection too, its about preparing your mind to stay in control and keep calm. I'm a big fan of it.

vivipru I had very similar reactions. But it sounds like it is the right thing for you.

I have just looked up and i'm not available on any of the dates in my area. I didnt do classes last time though, just yoga and that cd. I also listen to relaxation tracks in my car (not hypnobirthing!!) but it helps me practice my breathing.

Those tracks are from Mindful Mama vivipru

Small world!

vivi mindful mama looks great! I've been eyeing the book on amazon but didn't know there were classes, thanks for mentioning them. There's one near me I'll definitely book up for that. The hynobirthing courses in my area were all really long and were about 300 I'd much rather just do a days workshop instead.

Ah Mini* how interesting! I love serendipitous occurrences like that. I'm not especially woo haven't been reading up on Capricorn children oh no, honest but I do like it when I get little signposts in life telling me I'm on the right track...

Sara before I realised they were linked I downloaded the kindle sample of that book and it all seems pretty sensible and interesting....

Sorry to say i'll be leaving this group now. Awful news at scan baby has yet again died at 8 weeks, I keep loosing my babies at 8 weeks. I'm getting tests done and may need a d&c done if I haven't passed everything myself
Wishing you all the best and thank you for the support x