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July 2014 - Thread 5: Blooming!

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lemonpoppyseed · 01/03/2014 03:05

Thread 5 already! Sorry about the un-witty title. Am awake because baby is having a party in my belly... Smile

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BlueC2 · 22/04/2014 20:51

Anyone know if Buttercup syrup or any other cough syrup is safe to take? Just feel so rough at the moment with blocked nose and chesty cough :(

My friend had one of those bump photoshoots and the ones she posted on Facebook were (obviously) quite tasteful but I do wonder how many more were unsuitable for general viewing! In all honesty at no point last time would I have felt like attending anything like that...though I did make DH take some bump photos when I thought I was going into labour :)

Welcome hannah

Oh...re Tens I have been thinking of hiring one with my home birth pool...didn't use one last time but my friend found hers great so I'm wondering whether to give it a try. Which reminds me that I must actually fill in the form to reserve/book my pool!

ZingHasAHotCrossBunInTheOven · 22/04/2014 21:04

I recommend high factor Manuka honey, mixed with chopped raw garlic if you can stomach it.

(1 clove garlic, 1 or 2 teaspoons of honey)

I used to take Strepsils.I'm pretty sure it's ok, but check

Olbas oil and Olbas bath are great for blocked nose & headache stuff, should help with breathing easier especially at night (have the bath just before bed)

another trick is to apply Vicks vapourub on soles of feet to stop coughing - again I'm pretty sure it's safe to use in pg, but do check.

don't know about buttercup.

thyme is also good to fight coughs - syrup & tincture might contain alcohol (up to you if that bothers you), could try it as tea, with or without honey.

hth and big hugs

ZingHasAHotCrossBunInTheOven · 22/04/2014 21:06

and if you spit up green stuff you'd better get checked by GP - could be a chest infection which will need antibiotics

(got the t-shirt, 3 times over.
horrendous)

Fox28 · 22/04/2014 21:12

hannah I am starting to feel like I'm getting there now too! For some reason my next target is 30 weeks - I keep thinking when I'm 30 weeks I'll be REALLY nearly there! But not sure why?! Baby seems to have moved further up in the last couple of days and her kicks seem stronger too! Smile It still doesn't feel real in some ways though - probably won't until she's here!

I've been debating a tens machine too, but as this is my first I'm unsure if it'll be a waste of money or not?

AuntieMaggie · 22/04/2014 21:41

blue at the least try to get to a chemist to see a pharmacist... I wss told no cough medicine, throat sweets or olbas oil when I saw one earlier in the pregnancy... steam may help?! Hope you feel better soon x

casmama thank you - I think it would be worse if I wasn't taking it and my gp did warn me I might need to upgrade again towards the end of the pregnancy but its manageable for now

I've heard mixed reviews about tens machines so not sure whether to bother or not...

Ladies if it makes you feel closer we need to start thinking about packing hospital bags at about 36 weeks I read... which is just over 6 weeks for me... That made it feel really close Wink

hannahlucyellen · 22/04/2014 21:43

I totally get that, a friend of mine gave birth at 30 weeks! (I know that's very rare and certainly not something we would wish for!) but we're getting nearer to the point where the little things actually pop out!

I'm considering a tens machine, as I'm keen on a water birth and really want to avoid epidural. I'm just about to move jobs and house though, and will be under the care of a different midwife and hospital to going to see what they offer!

BlueC2 · 22/04/2014 22:19

Thanks ladies! Think I may make a trip to docs tomorrow as I need another prescription for gaviscon as this bottle nearly empty! zing yes to the bringing up green stuff (sorry tmi) so will see what the doc says! All good fun-how I miss decent over the counter drugs you can take when not pregnant or breastfeeding (I'm currently both!). Let's see if I can sleep a bit better tonight-I'm sure that in itself would help my body repair! Night all!

MrsB2013 · 22/04/2014 23:09

Hi Hannah :)

I've used Olbas oil a few times when I had a cold, it's the only thing that helps me to breathe at night!

30 weeks today!! Eeekk not long to go now! I've now got all the main big stuff, so just need the odd bits now, do babies need those hooded towels or will a normal towel do? Think we have enough clothes, just need to get them all washed and put in drawers!

ZingHasAHotCrossBunInTheOven · 23/04/2014 00:31

IMO hooded towels are better for newborns, you want to keep them as warm as possible when wet.
and I think they look even cuter too in them!Wink

(what is with connection tonight? is it just me? tried to post this a few times now - if 5 repeats occur I apologise!)

BlueC2 · 23/04/2014 01:38

Totally agree with zing on the towels.

Wide awake again and now on the sofa- I'm so restless in bed I don't know how DH asleep at all so going to give this a try and see if I can drop off.

icklekid · 23/04/2014 05:36

mrsb are you just back to make us feel bad Wink I have no clothes yet! I think because we don't know sex just going to get a variety of short/long sleeved vests and baby gros in newborn/0-3 sizes and hope we get some nice presents!

You can get nice hooded towels on eBay- I bought some as presents previously! Agree they do look cute.

blue hope it is a successful doctors trip and that you feel better soon!

Honestly going to bed being sick and waking up with heartburn every day is getting too much! No one tells you this glamorous side to pregnancy!

AuntieMaggie · 23/04/2014 07:24

Serious lack of sleep here and DP is still asleep and snoring!

Getting fed up of people asking about bump - "how are you and bump" "looking forward to seeing you and bump" - its not a bump its a baby (I may just be grumpy due to lack of sleep)

ickle hope you feel better today

Plateofcrumbs · 23/04/2014 07:56

ellentullo I resolved to be fairly laid back about drinking but in practice I'm not really feeling it. Had half a glass of fizz at the weekend and gave rest to DH, that is the most I have drunk since the BFP. I just don't feel totally relaxed about it which seems to defeat the object really.

Happy to have the odd slurp here and there (I often have a sip of whatever DH is drinking) but have decided sitting down to enjoy a glass of wine will just have to wait.

MrsA2 · 23/04/2014 08:07

Morning ladies and hi hannah.

Ellen I had a small glass of wine last night, I haven't had much - certainly less than one small glass a week - but alcohol free beers have become my new favourite!

Random questions - who is still wearing heels to work? I've got one really comfy black pair that go with everything but thinking at 30weeks I probably need to retire them for now? I feel stable in them but would feel so irresponsible and awful if I did fall. Bought some flats last wk, they seemed fine in the shop but now I have them home they are dead uncomfortable. Rubbish. The sun is out today so going to try and get away with flip flops, not really smart enough for my office though.

ItsAlwaysBetterOnHoliday · 23/04/2014 08:12

Hey all - sorry for the radio silence. Life seems to have been very busy in recent weeks! Hope you're all well, I'm going to try and catch up with the thread later :)

All's OK here, although yesterday's 28 week check (and anti D injection) resulted in me being referred to triage with a suspected DVT - turned out to be sore/damaged ankle ligaments. Not quite sure how I managed that considering all I did over the weekend was walk around a park and a gallery! Embarrassingly I burst into tears in front of the midwife from the pain of walking from the bus stop to the ante natal clinic - which she insisted on writing in my notes, so now I'm probably going to be asked how my mental health is at every subsequent appointment...

Relieved that it's not something serious (and glad they took it seriously) but wish I could walk properly, so sore and too many meetings to spend time working from home. Can't believe we're at the start of the third trimester!

ZingHasAHotCrossBunInTheOven · 23/04/2014 08:22

plate I think that's interesting.

I don't mind a sip of whatever, but I certainly couldn't drink till I feel dizzy (or get drunk like good old days at Uni!)
when I was pg with DS1 morning sickness put me off alcohol promptly, , then while bf I thought "better not", then with all the sleepless nights of sickness and teething I'd think "If I had to drive to A& E but was tipsy what then?"
And believe me we had a few midnight trips!
so I just don't, especially that even a tiny amount effects me now badly.

(having said that I do not judge anyone who enjoys a drink in the evening to relax.
DH does it. It's just not for me)

HomeIsWhereTheGinIs · 23/04/2014 09:49

Zing and Ellen I talked to the midwives last night and they agree with Zing - they said the cramps are BH, but to call in immediately if they become painful. As long as they're painless, they're totally normal. Which is reassuring! It is odd though isn't it, to be wandering around and suddenly feel like your tummy is caught in a vice?

Also Ellen re booze, I think it's an "Each to their own" thing. I did my own reading and satisfied myself that a glass of wine won't cause Fetal alcohol syndrome. So I have a glass of wine or champagne about three times a week. I have friends who stopped drinking altogether (though not many of them!) but in my group it just seems the norm to moderate your intake. DH does gaze in astonishment at me as I make it last throughout a whole meal though! I find it very enjoyable and relaxing but I think you need to satisfy yourself that it's OK. If I thought there was any risk to the baby I'm sure I wouldn't enjoy it. There were quite a few interesting papers published in the British Medical Journal about this last year that might make interesting reading if you want to look at it further?

DH has agreed that in weeks 37-39 (ELCS so we know I won't go over that) he'll stay sober enough to drive but I'll quote another MNetter when I say that if I ever had to go to A&E (with the baby or before he's born), I'd call the designated driver. That is, I believe that ambulance drivers have to abstain from booze!

I really find it interesting how people treat their pregnancies. Does anyone else find they are sometimes surprised at how their friends react? Most of my friends have been very relaxed about the whole thing but I do have a couple, previously laid-back, who went a bit overboard with the whole "It's not worth the risk" thing. I work in medical research so admittedly I have easier access to information (free access to papers etc) but it surprises me how many people will take something where there's no proof that it can hurt you and decide not to consume it because they read an unsubstantiated report online or heard a rumour. But again, each to their own - I might find it surprising but I guess what's important is that they feel good in themselves. My friend was tutted at by a midwife who asked "why would you risk it" about having prawns on a BBQ which really made me angry. There is NO risk in fresh, piping hot shellfish so why is a so-called medical professional worrying pregnant women about it? Silly really.

HomeIsWhereTheGinIs · 23/04/2014 10:42

Oh good lord. I've just started watching OBEM after seeing it referenced on here a million times. Is it normal to cry, constantly, from the opening credit right through until the end? And for some reason I'm now completely addicted...!

Sudden realisation that I'm probably going to be a blubbering wreck at the birth. Not quite the cool, calm, exterior I wanted...

jaykay987 · 23/04/2014 11:04

home - yes, I'm pretty sure that's normal! Smile

I managed 6hours sleep last night! Grin I feel like a new woman!

HomeIsWhereTheGinIs · 23/04/2014 11:11

jaykay great news about the sleep!

Also great to hear I'm not the only one sobbing in front of the TV. I never really bothered with it before but I'm currently on episode 7 and feel unable to stop...

ellentullo · 23/04/2014 11:30

Gin - agree the research thing is interesting. It is difficult for people to interpret "hard" evidence vs best guess "expert" advice, and to apply population data to individual circumstances. Thus, I understand why the authorities go for the blanket ban approach, however tenuous the evidence.

Im from a medical background too (although geriatric medicine). The majority of my medical friends, whilst understanding the difficulties of interpreting research data, have stuck with the blanket bans during pregnancy, because they want to be able to say that they did everything they possibly could to keep the baby healthy. I vacillate between this type of caution, and wondering how a glass of wine in the 3rd trimester could possibly do any harm.

Although I miss riding my bike, Ive also given this up "just in case" - clearly a research-free zone.

AuntieMaggie · 23/04/2014 11:54

I haven't had any alcohol since finding out I was pregnant... Partly because of a little girl I know with fetal alcohol syndrome and partly because I just don't feel I need to... I also remember watching a documentary years ago where they looked at cases where some women who had stuck to the recommended limits had babies with the syndrome and others that had drunk heavily had babies without...

I have now come across several medical professionals involved in OBEM and its interesting to hear their stories of having to re-shoot emergency scenes and having stuff edited completely out of context... still not watching it though!

First antenatal class this morning was interesting - it was a physio session so lots to think about and I think even DP enjoyed it!

ZingHasAHotCrossBunInTheOven · 23/04/2014 12:46

Gin

and they will get stronger later.
at about 8-9 months I'd regularly stop on a school run unable to move or breathe - concerned looks all aroundBlush
it can take your breath away, and be as painful as legcramps but as long as they are all round they are not labour pains.

labour pains will be localised, exactly where period pains are felt, bottom of belly, top of pubic bone.
but we are not quite there yet!Wink

HomeIsWhereTheGinIs · 23/04/2014 12:53

ellen I agree. And in the best possible way, if the authorities advise against it in general, it discourages people that might blur the line between a moderate and overly generous intake. People in general aren't going to take a balanced approach and do their own thorough research so I agree with you that there needs to be a National directive issued and for the population at large, erring on the side of caution isn't too bad. I think there is a danger of going too far in the opposite direction though. I get cross if people raise an eyebrow at me. The other day we were at a lunch party and the host offered everyone champagne when we arrived and then turned to me to ask what I wanted and when I said champagne, he made an enormous fuss and actually checked with my DH that that was what I wanted. He then gave me a glass with lots of "I wash my hands of this". Extraordinarily rude. It drives me nuts in general that people don't understand stats (which, given my job, I suppose is inevitable) but I dislike being told I'm risking my baby when there is no data, in any study, that shows that a glass of wine will hurt him. It's the same with child-rearing. People buy into silly urban myths (the baby has to sleep in your room because hearing your breathing will help regulate his for example) and then use them to batter people that don't agree. I guess it's human nature to criticise people that take a different approach but it seems a bit mean to me sigh rant over.

AuntieMaggie Exciting news about your antenatal class! Which one did you do? We start NCT next week and I'm very much looking forward to it (although the first mention of whale music and I'm off...).

HomeIsWhereTheGinIs · 23/04/2014 12:54

Zing Did you find that stopping helped then? Any advice on how to make them pass faster? And glad to hear that the breathlessness is normal!