June 2014 -Thread 8- 20 week scans, gender reveals... Halfway through!

[GillyBillyWilly]

Jump in the new thread ladies!!!!

Realized I didn't finish last post - nothing to exciting just that I had promised DP that I would clean the kitchen with him. Got it done - looks much better.

Clever - that is the pram I have been eyeing up! I like the blue but the rest of the colors are also lovely. One of the mums in the playground has it and next time I see her I am going to ask what she thinks of it (I don't know her al all - I hope she doesn't think I am mad!)

Hope your having a good weekend and really enjoying all the co-sleeping info. Have just joined the FB page (thanks Gilly) - is there any way to tell who is who?

Clever, that pram looks good, I may have to check it out. I've looked online at some but not gone to road test any yet.

Boring day here, I've been trapped in the living room most of the day watching tv whilst DH has painted the whole kitchen and hallway. I'm not complaining, he's been working hard all day, we're trying to get the house all sorted for the little ones arrival and he's been doing most of the work - I guess my hard work will come in June though!

I have all the paint for our house now, today I picked up 6 tins of paint for our bedroom, the kitchen & nursery respectively. Managed to get a 3x2 garden shed for £30, as well, which DH is currently building in the kitchen (madman...). I still have the paint for the hallway here, too...

The nursery paint is wipeable, which I suspect will be a good thing - ended up with a really strong blue/turquoise tone (Dulux Striking Cyan), a I've decided grey/yellow is just a bit too sedate, I want something brighter. I'll probably pair it with soft yellow and grey, and get orange decoration.

Bee, that sounds nice for the nursery, I've not decided on a colour scheme for that yet. I bought a few bits from mamas and papas patternology range today including the tree wall sticker so it might be along those lines as it's quite neutral for a boy or girl.

22 weeks today! ...
18 weeks to go....

Stacks I've read the UNICEF link you've posted & it says the risk might not be as much as 5x higher for cosleeping but only 2.7 times higher & that the safest place for your baby to sleep is in a cot by your bed.

My Mum as a Pathologist when starting her career did post-mortems on SIDs every week now it's 1/2 a year at most. But the biggest change noted by the profession is the sleeping position (ie baby on back) not the other factors.

And as I said before 200 out of 732,000 born is a minuscule risk we do far riskier things with our children without thinking about it & if I actually wanted to cosleep I definitely still would. Those who can do it successfully (ie actually relax in bed) seem to enjoy it & it definitely seems the easiest and most natural option but its just too uncomfortable for me.

Bee you've reminded me we have so much work to do aaaah. I can pain the nursery as it's easy from last time but our dining room needs woodchip removed (omg that stuff is bloody evil) & living room needs holes repaired & sanding work before paint can go on.) It feels like such slow progress! I'm always amazed by people who just move in & have a whole house done in no time!

I did some serious pram research yesterday and am thinking I like the uppababy vista, I tried it in the shop and it seemed good at manoeuvring etc and has a big basket underneath. Need to measure our hallway though, we live in an old Edwardian house with a long narrow hallway so need to check that this pram would actually fit through the door!

redcliff on the fb group there are two documents, one with due dates and genders (if known) and one with a who's who's list of MN names.

6 days to scan.....

Just had a phone appointment with a GP form my practice and he's cleared me (grudgingly) for part-time work and has specified exactly what hours and where I'm allowed to work, so I hope work not wriggle out - of course the area manager I need to speak to is out of office until next week!

Bumblebee We have a few cracks that need closing and some re-grouting to do, but we moved in in November and barely anything is done, and ideally I want every room changed - whatever interior designer did this house up (was the Showhome once upon a time) did it SO not to my taste!

I guess one good thing about baby not having his own room is no nursery to paint although we do have lots of other jobs that need doing.

I am sleeping so badly ' Yesterday I woke up at 6 and couldn't get back to sleep again and today it was 3.30 drifted off around 5 but woke up every half hour . I used to be a terrible sleeper so over the years have found having the radio on does the trick but not now ! Also can't take any over the counter sleeping tablets- have only used these in the past as a last resort maybe one every 3 month but missing that option. Have any of you found a cure or anything that helps?

Bumble, I'd just love to see a study if cosleeping and SIDS where the parents had both made the conscious decision to cosleep, and had an appropriate and safe environment set up for it. We got rid of all pillows and our duvet etc.
I found cosleeping from night 1 (the midwife put DS in bed with me in the hospital, after my CS and while taking morphine!) meant I avoided the crushing exhaustion of being a new mum, so managed to sleep lightly enough to wake to DS before he was even properly awake.

I will say it's not the most comfortable way to sleep though! DS just wouldn't settle his crib, and with silent reflux was up a lot - still 2 hourly at 6 months.

I'm getting a second hand Baby Jogger Citi Select system. Hopefully one I've seen advertised for £300. It's a great, very versatile single to double pram system. Which I'm hoping will last us from new baby till both stop needing a pushchair (DS will be 18m, so I'll need about 18m of a double pushchair I think, maybe less with a buggy board.

Stacks there are always lots of variables they can't account for for example SIDS in cots will also include pillows blankets or babies on their front etc & so risk will also be 'overstated'. I think it's always good to read up & almost all medical professionals are in consensus that cosleeping is a higher risk but as with lots of things but there are always discrepancies like with what foods we're supposed to eat, how much exercise is too much etc etc. It's impossible to do a properly controlled study on anything I just think it's a bit frustrating that people want to fit the facts to their own personal choices. Epidurals increase risks of certain things but I am very likely to consider having another one. That doesn't mean I would argue that the risks are non existent - I just believe that for me last time & who knows possibly again, the benefits outweighed the risk.

Not to mention there are the SIDS risks that you cannot control like boys being at a much higher risk, low birth weight etc etc. I really don't think it's a decision people should obsess about as I think most will have a natural preference & should just go with that & forget about it - other than obviously doing whichever option as safely as possible ie pillows & blankets & whatever.

I will have a just turned 2 year old & am looking at that pram also. Although he's already happy to walk everywhere & I'm sure a buggy board would be fine - if he has a tantrum or doesn't want to leave etc I do think I will still need the option to strap him down for a bit. Plus it takes so long walking with him!! But doubles are a bit of a minefield

How do you sleep without pillows or a duvet?? Just a sheet over you and no pillow? Feel like I'm missing something... I need to be tucked up, that sounds like a recipe for no sleep!

no way I could sleep with no pillows or duvet... Plus being pinned in one spot by a non sleeping baby. As I have said before we reluctantly co slept last time on nights where I just couldn't sit up any longer but whilst Dh got more sleep due to no screaming as she was attached to my breast all night long, I got no more sleep than when I sat up with her!

But it makes sense, baby shouldn't even have a pillow/duvet/bednest/padded side bits in the cot as all those things can increase the risk of SIDS, a sleeping bag with appropriate tog rating is all I'll be using, and maybe a sheepskin cot liner underneath. Yet another reason why this baby is getting his own bed!

Obviously baby is nowhere near all those things but we need them, surely? DD had a sleeping bag when it got colder or slept in just a sleep suit and vest when warmer.

Hi all, I'm due 20th June but it'll be another ELCS so probably around 13th June. We had a gender scan at dead on 16w and were told another girl (our third DD!) - 20w scan next Tuesday, hopefully will confirm the same as I'm looking forward to a trio of girls now!

Starting to look at prams, cribs etc. now (we have everything away after our last DD, thinking we wouldn't be having any more, oops) so will be reading this thread with interest.

To add to the co-sleeping talk, we co-slept with both of our daughters (a decision made by choice, it seemed the natural thing to do, my first DD particularly needed to be close to me - she took all of our daytime sleeps on me until she was 6m) and will do the same this time. We did still use pillows for ourselves but instead of a duvet slept with pjs on (whereas we usually sleep with nothing on) for warmth and used a sheet over us. DD was in a grobag in between the pillows - with the pillows pushed so far to the sides of the bed that they were practically hanging off! You do seem to develop a natural instinct when the baby is in the bed, I slept curled around her and my H slept with his arm in front of him so never rolled over towards her - if that makes sense.

I do like the look of the NCT bednest and may look into hiring one.

Wow, I haven't checked in on mn in ages! Facebook has taken over a bit I have to admit.

I do love the talk of co sleeping, but I know I couldn't do it. I can't sleep without a duvet even in summer, and can't sleep without a clue pillows or I end up wheezing in the night, and my husband is a toss-and-turner! I know there would be some level of instinct that takes over, but I'd much rather have baby next to the bed rather than in it.

Yes def no pillows is the main one for safe cosleeping. Sleeping without a duvet and pillows for one night would be torture for me I'd feel like I was on a weird boot camp or at a never ending student party if I tried to do it for 6 months. Then combined with freezing up & not moving - no way to cosleeping. But for those that are - thank god it will be summer for you!!

Hi everyone! I'm so sorry I've been such a terrible lurker here and haven't posted for months! I've been keeping an eye though, and congratulations to everyone on their scans and all your gender news !

I have my 20 week scan tomorrow, and DH and I are still undecided about finding out the gender (all being well with everything else obviously-I know sonographers get a bit cross that we all think it's a gender scan and not an anomaly scan!). This is our 2nd, we have a DD and both 'feel' this one is blue, but equally we will probably only have 2 DCs and we found out last time, so a surprise might be nice! What a lovely dilemma to have though .

Gilly I will send you a PM if that's ok, this FB group sounds like fun!

Also the bed nest looks amazing! But my dad refurbished my little crib from when I was a baby before my DD was born for her, and it does push quite close to the bed, so I would feel guilty hiring something else... But then I think about begging my DH to lift DD out of the crib for her 2 hourly feeds in the night (she was under 6lbs so had to wake her every 2 hours, grim) and suddenly the bed best nest seems like a very good idea indeed!!

vickyvix I think we'll go for that too. Probably a stupid question....but do you think the width of the hallway is important? We also live in an Edwardian house - but I figured the pram will essentially live in ny car boot. I'll only carry the carseat or bassinet in and out. Have I not thought this through?

Jay I def think you need to be able to fit the pram in the house - unless you literally can't / won't walk anywhere from your house not even a local shop etc? Do you have a side gate & a back door that might be easier to get in to?

Last time DS went in a gro bag on his back on top of the duvet no where near the pillows - he couldn't roll over and couldn't overheat so bit confused why you would sleep with no pillows or duvet - feel like I am missing something.

Am going to hire a bed nest - did put a bid on an e bay one but lost out .

bumble - yes, side door would easier. but still no logical place to store a buggy except for the garage. we have no internal door - so can't see me putting it in there. I was worried it would need to stand in the corner of the kitchen instead.....but after I thought about, I thought it could live in car boot. Even if Im going for a walk - I have to walk past the car on the drive, so figured it'd use it straight from there. The only time I think I'd throw it in the house is if I'm going out alone - and so would need to move pram to DH car or leave in the house. Plus he might be using a sling, so that might not even be needed. Hmm...maybe my thoughts aren't logical! Not sure now!