June 2014: Thread 6! The 2nd trimester and Christmas shenanigans!

[GillyBillyWilly]

Boom!

sleepy they probably invite you over a lot so they can smoke at home. I'm amazed they do though, it's so rate these days. Committed smokers rarely consider non smokers. I know, because for years I was one too! I was never a heavy smoker but I did love a ciggy with my glass of wine. I gave up when I fell pg with my son. I hate smoking now.

The smell of smoke makes me really nauseous now, and PILs smoke. However whilst we've been staying with them over Xmas they've been very considerate and smoked outside.

mina jealous of your feeling major movement! My placenta is at the front so I'm not feeling much myself :(.

could you say you are still suffering with sickness and you don't mean to be rude but smoke makes you feel really unwell.... A big hint maybe?

This insomnia is driving me crazy! Fed up of sitting downstairs watching tv until the early hours then having to function on around 2 hours sleep.

Sleepy I'm a wimp but when they invite you over I would say is it possible that they come to yours instead as you never know when you might have to bail & you'd hate to ruin eve by both having to go home

But the sensible advice is probably either to ask - or ask if they'd be terribly offended if YOU stood in the garden when they smoked. I bet they say they'll go instead. Hope you work it out it's a tough one.

We have friends with a brand new puppy. I'm not good around dogs at the best of times because I was bitten by our trusted family dog as a child. Anyway these friends are fab & have regularly looked after my toddler since he was a newborn but they came to our house with the puppy & now I feel they can't come here with him or my toddler stay with them. We had to lock our cats out. Then the puppy pissed all over our carpet - and I don't mean once - & they didn't even offer to clean it up or say anything we just ran around with tissues. They even said 'Im sure James has done far worse' (erm no - he wears nappies!) Then he bit our toddler - not nastily but in that playful way puppies do, but James was inconsolable - again they weren't bothered. They offer to have him but I feel we have to say no as James is just not old enough. They say 'oh but James would love to play with the puppy' - and all I'm thinking is no way he'll bite him again - it's a difficult one. But I know I'm biased - I really don't like dogs (unless they're massive like Alsatians labs etc a complete contradiction I know but it's the little yappy ones that terrify me) - oh well!

My husband on other hand grew up with dogs & was actively encouraging this thing. It was quite funny - I was doing everything possible to keep my hands away from it but try & be polite about it the occasional stroke but you're not having my hands thank you. My husband was bouncing & prodding it & chucking it things - he was in his element - I was just sat there thinking he's gone mad! :) But I'm so bad I even cross the road at certain breeds - I try so hard not to show it - but I'm really not a dog person! Sorry to the little dog lovers :)

That is so tricky. I had a colleague who was in total denial about the effects of passive smoking. She used to have a massive go if we sat inside at the pub because she couldn't smoke while we were eating. And would say stuff like "my not smoking is as bad for me as my smoking is for you" I am also allergic and used to dread the days of being allowed to smoke in pubs etc. even nice restaurants used to let people smoke. I would have runny eyes and sneeze constantly.

it'sawonderfullifeof enjoy ravelry! I have about 100 things in my favourites!

Hello ladies - finally I can join! Currently 16+3 with DC3, was active on here in 2007 with my first DD, then had a second DD in 2009. Said no more, then whoops a daisy. Anyway have been lurking but didn't post as we were going to tell our parents, siblings and DCs for Christmas, DD1 had put a baby bro on her Christmas list! Had a baby bond gender scan on Saturday and it's a boy! Look forward to sharing the journey with you all.

Nosey when I discussed it with my midwife I said I assumed it wouldn't be an option but she said not necessarily and she thought it was an excellent idea which she would support. However she wasn't sure who to refer me to and I'll have to see what the consultant says. But she's in my corner which is a great start. Re smoking, while it is difficult I think it is worth making a fuss about. I can't stand second-hand smoke and they are being inconsiderate, even if they haven't thought it through. I second the suggestion about saying you'll go outside - if they realise how much it's bothering you if they're reasonable people they'll stub it out.

Morning all!
Very happy today as my sister had baby number 2 last night at 11:33. A little brother for Henry who is 2 years old
He weighed 9lb 1oz and was a natural delivery... Needless to say my sister is feeling a bit sore this morning!
He's called Arthur and I can't wait to meet him!!!

Ah gilly that's lovely news, congratulations to your sister :)

Welcome to the thread sareva

good morning everyone.
I'm still on holidays but I'm exhausted.
The house we are staying is freezing and we all got a cold. My sleep has been rubbish from dogs barking, roosters at 5am, noisy neighbours and a very hard mattress=sore hips. Sorry for my rather negative post but I'm feeling rubbish.

Bee I think you have mentioned that you have an anterior placenta. when did you start feeling movement? I'm 16+2 and haven't felt anything. I thought because this us number 2 I would feel something earlier.

Congratulations Gilly Lovely news! And when yours comes along the cousins will be similar ages which will be nice I'm sure.

Sorry you're feeling rubbish Liquid. When can you go home?

Bumble I don't think you're being unreasonable. I'm a dog owner and love them but I accept that not everyone does. I certainly wouldn't allow my puppy to wee everywhere and if it did unavoidably happen if be straight on my knees with the cleaning stuff and offer to pay professionals if I couldn't do it! I also think that until it's trained, and the toddler knows how to act around dogs (obviously training the dog is first but training the child is also important as not all dog owners are responsible, sadly) they should be watched extremely carefully. Sounds like they're a bit swept up in cute-puppy excitement.

liquid I felt the first movements around week 16 but I feel something one day and nothing for the next few days, I think it really depends where baby is at the time. I can go for days not feeling anything and then suddenly it's in the right position and pummeling me! My friend is due in 6 weeks and has an anterior placenta, she says she felt it mainly right at the top or bottom at the beginning.

bumblebee Puppies are really hard work and I'd have been appalled if mine had wrecked somebody else's house like that, it was hard enough putting up with it in our house! I absolutely love dogs but was bitten by a random Husky when I was 8 and so always had problems trusting dogs, that's why we got a puppy - we've grown up 'together' and I completely trust her.

However, the nippy puppy phase was a right PITA, and I would've worried about a toddler in the mix! Even now she is so crazily bouncy and full of energy it's going to be interesting once baby is a bit more mobile.

It has just dawned on me that I haven't been sick since Christmas Day! Yay !
Hope I can stay awake to see the new year in. When pregnant with dd, I fell asleep at 11! We had just moved on the 17th of Dec though and I was knackered.
PiLs have dd tonight so we are going for a nice meal then to see Simple Minds Playing in the centre of town. It should be great although the forecast for heavy rain is unfortunate.
What are everyone's plans for Hogmanay?

Bumble - that sounds awful!

I think you should take the toddler round to their house when the puppy is out.... nappy-less, as revenge :D

Nappy-less parenting seems to be a 'thing' in Gehabt at the moment and parents who use nappies are lazy... We can be a bit alternative-hippy (it's to balance out the rest), but that's going a bit far for me.

Germany, I meant to say, I have no idea why the sorrel check on my phone turned that into a random German word

I am all for hippy but I think EC is a step too far! Surely just making a whole lot of unecessary work for yourself?!

Bumble I'm a dog person and like the others have said, I wouldn't have just sat their while one of my dogs pissed all over your house! Apologising profusely and running around with some cleaning products would've been my reaction! They really need to be taking more responsibility for their puppy and that includes the puppy's interaction with your son - they have a crucially small window to expose their puppy to as many positive experiences as possible. If they don't have children themselves then teaching the puppy to behave appropriately around a toddler (your DS) should be top of their list and it doesn't sound like they got off to a very good start.

Could you perhaps say to them that your DS is nervous around the puppy now and so could they make an effort to be more considerate of that? They might not be bothered about a cute, wee puppy 'playfully' biting your son but it'll be a different matter if they don't teach the puppy appropriate behaviours and the puppy grows into a big, adult dog and does the same thing!

It's a difficult situation for you - maybe you could ask when they're planning to start the puppy's training?

I like Summer's idea for revenge

DH and DB just went out to buy cheese for lunch. What did they come back with? Stilton, Shropshire Blue, Brie, and Camembert It didn't even occur to DH to get me some cheddar or ham so I have just had a very unsatisfactory lunch of bread and jam!! Men!!!

So unimpressed with my pregnancy today. Went out for lunch with my DH, DS and my sister and her family. One bite into my meal and I had to dash off to throw up. Am now home in bed with a migraine and a stabbing pain in my stomach. Really hope that goes soon. We have a four hour drive back home tomorrow.

Sorry for the moan but I'm feeling really sorry for myself.

hugs to those who need them

The community midwife just helpfully informed me that pregnancy is basically a big wheel of tiredness, headache, nausea and dizziness that goes round and round, each condition causing the order.

Cheers!

What a cheery thought BEE. Is akin to my GP telling me that baby is a parasite sucking all the goodness out of me!

super you're allowed Stilton! Although perhaps you don't care for it?