Martians 2014, thread 13. Who will win, team pink or team blue?

[LyraSilvertongue]

New thread, hoes!

Joll and Becca I had mine out too in 2012. Years of digestive issues which I put down to IBS then during 20s eliminated more and more foods from diet but to no avail. Eventually blue lighted to A&E with pancreatitis (horrific) and the GB removed a month later. Have not touched alcohol since. Having survived pancreatitis I'm almost looking forward to childbirth -will be a breeze compared to that agony. Finding this pregnancy a real struggle compared to last two though - am assuming those health issues have taken their toll on my body. Becca what did your mw/GP say about your pains? Apparently 'sludge' can still accumulate in bile duct even after the GB has been removed

Pain - ouch. Did you go yellow too then? I've not seen the sludge theory before but I've long since learned to cope with attacks so haven't done any research in years.

They bandied around the word pancreatitis (I'm tired, ignore my spelling) when I was diagnosed but as I was young and never ended up in A&E (mum thought I was putting it on as I was being bullied in school) they couldn't tell me with any certainty. I went quite yellow with attacks though and couldn't speak through the pain...was completely silent and was unable to move or communicate at all. That's the part I no longer get thank god, though if I do nothing to fix the pain once it starts I can vomit and occasionally come very close to fainting.

Joll that sounds horrible to have it so young (and not to be believed!).
Although I had years of symptoms, most of them I could live with. It only got progressively worse in the 6 months or so leading up to the hospitalisation (and in hindsight I should have been banging on the GP's door for a referral). But had been fobbed off for so long with gaviscon etc I was feeling like a hypochondriac! In some ways, getting the acute pancreatitis was good because it made them sit up and take notice and I wasn't left festering on a waiting list for a GB removal for months on end.
Re. the sludge - so long as it doesn't completely block up the bile duct you should be able to avoid pancreatitis but apparently it can give you loads of the symptoms you had pre-GB removal and is harder to detect by scan because you can't see actual stones.
Are they keeping a closer eye on you during this pregnancy because of this? My mw/GP don't seem to think it's an issue but it's at the back of mind all the time (especially when we get bigger and our organs all start getting pushed up into our ribcages - that's where I used to feel all the pain)

Bloody hell jols pain and Becca sounds awful!

Cookie Warburtons is so not council estate bread. That's the bread I get when I want a really decent bacon butty. Not the kind of bread I could have on a regular basis. You're clearly getting confused with Tesco value bread.

As for the yoga - it's not that I've never been anywhere nice, I mean I live in a beautiful part of the country, I've been to some proper desert island type places, but they're not all they're cracked up to be. For a start, fresh running water is hard to come by, you get hideous sunburn if you're not really really careful, food is often not available when you're hungry, you get so sweaty but you can't wash your clothes because they will take about a week to dry because it's so humid. And you'll probably get so drunk that you lose your camera with all your honeymoon photos on (that last one might be particular to me). I think I have the opposite of rose-tinted spectacles. I have shit-smeared glasses.

You know how we're not supposed to sleep on our backs now? This is proving difficult. I always used to sleep on my side before I was pregnant, but now it hurts the hip I am lying on and my back! I keep waking up in the night on my back and have to haul myself back over again.

I found it difficult not to roll onto my back but I bought a dream genie pillow off ebay and it's great for wedging you onto your side. Not gonna do much for your hip issue but I've seen others recommend memory foam toppers or just cut a piece of foam to go underneath you for support?

Oh, Becca, how rubbish Pirate, what the hell are they playing at? I really didn't think they would fuck you about at this point.

Foxy, my comments about council estate bread are largely tongue-in-cheek (come on, you know me by now, right?) but I do think there's a lot of snobbery around food stuffs which makes me even more sneery of the middle-classes (if that were at all possible). I, too, have been to farflung tropical places and find them oddly unremarkable as a holiday experience. I still don't understand honeymooning couples who choose to spend £5k on some breathtaking yet utterly predictable and boring isle. Mind you, I went to Hainan in the South China Seas before it was even invented and was almost raped by a fishmonger. I am notoriously unimpressed by the Seven Wonders, too. Egypt is a steaming heap of camel shit and Sydney Opera House is shockingly unremarkable. I won't go on as it sounds like boasting but suffice to say, the older I get the less I want to travel (which is fortuitous considering I am a poor bastard who can only afford Warburtons council estate bread).

I'm off to the physio at 2.30 to be patronised and have my time completely wasted by some 22 year-old who has never been in pain herself Can't wait.

Off to the scan now - will update you later with pink or blue (hopefully!).

Thanks mrsk I was thinking a maternity pillow might be the answer. Unfortunately the mattress already is memory foam!

Course I know that Cookie you twit. I'm clearly coming across far too seriously.

I'd love to do more travelling. Not of the sightseeing variety just of the being in a totally different place variety. Had some fab times as a skint backpacker in South east Asia. I was dead set on driving around Mexico before having a baby, but that sort of didn't work out. Mind you, we tried backpacking again on honeymoon and it brought back how much hard work and how frustrating it was a lot of the time.

Good luck with your scan Pain

I still maintain that Warburtons is the king of sliced white bread.

I can't stand the term "artisan bread". It's just a label to justify the £5-a-loaf price tag. Ridiculous. We tend to get Hovis but I may switch to Warburtons if you lot say it's good.

Good luck Pain.

I'm off out to buy pillows. Our stay in the hotel a few days ago made me realise how thin and crap my pillows are. Hope I can get a good deal somewhere.

If I had terrorist tendencies I would quite happily bomb H&M and their frightfully-manufactured clothes

Warburtons is the bread of kings. I live their orange waxed paper toastie loaf (or even better the green thickest one!)

There will never be any bread that makes toast as good as Sayers cafe super thick (think 1" slices) hot buttered toast Pre smoking ban me and a few colleagues used to meet up in there every day before work for hot chocolate, fat toast, and a fag! Absolutely disgusting cafe, but the toast was incredible :)

I've done way too much today, have now got backache, out of breath, and light tummy pains I remember doing this when I overdid it while pregnant with DS so certain I don't need to worry, but looking forward to a long soak in the bath and an early night tonight!

Well, I am almost disappointed to report that I was not patronised nor was I seen by a useless lump of a twelve year-old. The physio was lovely but bamboozled; she hasn't seen anything like my problem (not fallen arches but agonisingly tender) and so gave me crutches and will be trying acupuncture from next week.

Becca, we only eat the green thick one! Rock, you still fit in the bath then?

Foxy, I think it is only good manners to inform you I have reported you for calling me a t'wit'. You can't expect to cause someone such anguish and get away with it. Harrumph.

Poor cookie at least you got free bashing sticks! Now if people don't move out of the way you can just bash the in the ankle! - if I where you I would go round on the train for no real reason, anyone brave enough to not give up their seat to a pregnant woman on crutches must have a heart of coal!

On the bread subject it's Hovis in our house. Although funnily enough I did have warburtons toasty bread last week for the first time as our usual was out of stock. - not bad!

I meant 'twit' not t'wit'. T'wit sounds like a Yorkshireman describing summat amusing.

Dreaming of weekend laziness....

...slowly realising that I only have 4 more months of lazy weekends, like EVER.

MrsKay, I am seriously fretting about losing sleep and, like, my life

So I went to aquanatal this morning, was good apart from all the other women being awfully polite and not very chatty, maybe they'll be better as I get to know them. I ache all over now, keep getting quite bad stitch like stretching pains when I walk, stopped at the market on my way back and got myself a couple of food bargains including a really nice white bloomer, forgot how cheap food markets are!

And have since cooked up a beef joint for roast later (seeing as I'm working ALL weekend going to have our roast tonight) and have napped for an hour and a half, yet still feel like I could sleep more, I thought exercise was meant to make you feel more energetic? maybe it was getting the bus that tired me out!

Me too cookie I'm just unpleasant when I'm tired, so I won't be able to leave the house for at least a year after the baby is born or I may stab someone! And the headaches when I'm tired are so bad I faint or throw up.
I have also spent a awful lot of time and money on shipping my pony over from America, who has now just reached an age where she can compete and I'm not allowed to ride her :( I plan to get back to life around May time, but I have a feeling that's just a dream.

Luckily we have family close, and I have quite a few gullible single friends who just turn to mush around babies so I'm hoping to 'loan' baby out to people in order to get on with things - although at the same time I know how possessive I can get, and so I'm not too sure I could let someone take her for too long without me being around.

This is why I never wanted children .... Then a year later I go and change my mind! Stupid thing - too late now!

Madwife, sounds like aqua is really going to be good for you. Keep it up. I'm squatting millions of times a day with my kettle bells (I was practising my squats over DH's cock but his libido has fuck-off to the far side off fuck, turned left and then fucked-off some more).

I can't bear awfully polite women. I'll bet they're silently farting under water like navvies and pissing in the pool