Martians 2014, thread 13. Who will win, team pink or team blue?

[LyraSilvertongue]

New thread, hoes!

Evening!

Lots of fireworks going off. DS aged 3yrs said that he likes the lights but not the noise!

Cookie - pardon?! Not got upgrade implant yet, but called them today and it shouldn't be much later as it's on order. Will then have to have a little jaunt up to Manchester to get it.

Welcome Bunny to the mad world of Martians babies!

Regarding having other people at birth... I had my mum at both of my DD & DS. 1st time round it kinda just happened, as she came in to see how I was doing (having travelled 6hrs up from south to the north) and both DH and I needed her support at that stage as has a rough time having DD. She also gave poor DH opportunity to slip out for a wee bit to have a brew with my stepdad, as he was dead on his feet having being up with me throughout the night and into a long day. 2nd time round I asked if she could come, and once again she made it up in time. Not sure about this time, we'll see how I feel nearer the time. I think it's up to the individual who they feel comfortable about having there. In fact for me it was useful to have my Mum as she was able to aid in communication, as I struggle more when tired and doped up to lip-read! She was also able to help piece together info that DH forgot about or didn't really take on board, like the fact that DS was born in the sac. DH didn't even notice this!

With DD I was induced, has everything going, including an epidural which the MW admitted later they shouldn't have given to me at the stage they did. Lost a lot of blood, but not enough to warrant a transfusion. Has doctors all rush in at one stage as I passed out and DD heart rate went a bit loopy. Went through 2 lovely shifts and then has the MW from hell who was awful to me in her treatment and monitoring of situation. Was in shock after birth and felt quite traumatised for some time as well. Whole thing lasted 19 hours from start to finish.

In contrast with DS he arrived naturally on own on his due date. Was at home for much of time using a TENS machine, and then when I went in used gas and air to assist with pain relief. Has fab mws throughout the time I was in. Much better birth in comparison, even though once again it was 19 hours from start to finish.

Congrats to MTB and fox too!!

All fine here, I was utterly blown away by seeing my little baby's heart pumping away, in such detail. Still team yellow and happy that way.

Owl - note with the boys. I'm a first timer. Rock and Lyra both have boys already (and many others whose names I'm ashamed to say I can't remember)

Evenin' all! Haven't been on here much lately, hope everyone is well.

Welcome bunny!

Interesting conversation about birth plans etc. I think I will write one, for the purposes of expressing my wishes re injections, vit k, etc, in case I am not able to do so at the time. With regards to pain relief and interventions, that will be more fluid; basically starting from the point of nothing, and building up as I feel I need it, or if things are not progressing.

I cannot imagine having anyone at the birth apart from DH and midwives (and a doctor if it's not going to plan). I love my mum, but would feel extremely uncomfortable having her there at that most intimate of times. As far as I'm concerned, if you weren't there at the conception, you won't be there at the birth.

Congrats baking, another one on team yellow (go team yellow woo!) Sorry got carried away there.

Sorry jolls got a bit mixed up there.

An interesting mix of options today.

My mum has just informed me she's coming over (from abroad) a week before due date for couple of days. While it'll be great to have her, id be worried at her taking over at birth. Really want this to be a time for me and OH and he's great in a crisis so no concerns there. Emasculate seems s strong word but probably accurate cookie in my family dynamic. Because he's been there entire time, involved in all decisions aware of birth plan to be pushed aside at last minute is almost cruel. If I build up the courage I say she can be there but OH is decision maker. goes awayand thinks about how on earth im going to phrase that

Birth plan (first draft )- will be at hospital & as its my first as little medical intervention as possible unless danger to me or baby occurs. So no drugs, postpone cord cutting, natural placenta push. But all readily available if needed. :)

Hey ladies!

So not on here much because I keep trying to catch up but then get sideteacked!! Just call me side track abi!!

Hope everyone is well, glad scanees had good scans today :0) who's up for a scan tomorrow?

Birthing plans and who's present is down to the individual and what is needed at tge time. So whats right for one might not be right for another, but opinionswill always differ on this. GFor me its down to personal experience. With ds I was going to have as natural birth as poss, wanted to be up and moving about, kinda let gravity do its job with gas and air to hand if needed. Turns out thats not want ds had in mind. Back to back 22.5 hours in total start to finish, 3 canister of gas and air tgen 10.5 hrs in I got told by midwife that if I wanted to stop swelling up she advised having an epi, I reluctantly agreed, but it was the best yes ive ever answered as the contractions were soooo painful! Still a horrendous birth but I will still go in on the same sort of original plans for as natural birth as poss again with this one!! I had my dp and mum in on this last one and it worked really well. They both knoe me so well in different ways so when one couldnt help thd other could. Also it meant each could give the other thr option to have a break. I havent decided what to do this time, but will wsit till 20week scan Monday before I think about it too much!

Again its all down to personal preference and theres no right or wrong :D ? ? ?

Who's scanning tomorrow? Have I already asked that! ? God im tired! Will try to keep up on here but do find it a little easier on fb so will try my best ; 0)

birth partners ..I'm on team bring your dh and your mum. We are v close, mums also a nurse and trained as a madwife so she was reassuring and calm throughout. Poor Dp struggled a bit towards the end I actually sent him out at one point as he was not coping and putting me off my stride. I see your point cookie about potentially being emasculating but for us it worked well and they could give each other respite..I don't know about this time round as ds will need childcare.

cookie thanks also for the flowers. I shall proudly display them in my charity shop bargain vase.. we are in a recession after all...

Things seem to be improving with dh then something else seems to happen, so on Friday he overdid the whiskey at my friends wedding and made some stupid remarks. Not what a sensitive pregnant and sober partner wants to hear . He compensated as it was my birthday weekend bless him and knows that food & jewelry & heartfelt apology helps. I do think we are getting better though Friday was a blip however i would like no more dramas ideally for a few months im sick of it. And I was prob in a grump, find weddings hard bc of displays of family unity and bc I don't think I'll ever get married though have conflicted feelings about that. Didn't intend to ramble but u did ask..

night all

jolls welcome to team pink!

gut instinct tells me pink are in the lead still but I too would like to know the tally

Ds woke me up 20 minutes ago to give me his first tooth that had fallen out. It's been hanging on by a thread for days. I'd better make sure I have a pound for tonight.

As for previous births, I've been pretty lucky. With ds I woke up around 1 am in pain and sort of leaking. As I didn't know I was pregnant I didnt know what was going on. At 6am pain was so bad we went to hospital where there were hours of tests and scans. At 12 I was taken to delivery where I was told the pain relief options, I chose as epidural and had it at 3, ds was born at 5:46pm. It was physically fairly easy.

With dd I was 5 days over due, went to the mw for a sweep but she said she couldn't do it, cervix was too far back and closed. 3 hours later I started having " period pains" so I decided to have a bath. As soon as I got in my waters broke with a gush. Went to hospital around 4am and she was born at 8:10am, she flew out with her arm up by her head like super girl.

This baby had better be even speedier than that!!

mummy pig you didn't know you were pregnant!!!! ? Holy crap there is a story and a half in there, can u tell us more mummy (nosey head tilt). How did u cope in the aftermath?

My pal didn't know till 6 months.On holiday with her and the future hubby we couldn't figure out what her headAches were all about.. He even phoned his Dr parents one of whom is a top brain surgeon...no idea .

I think u right to say period pain. I naively thought pain would be on my front, cervix etc , but no it was all back pain for me for labour, so it's good to be aware.

I need a hoist to extract me from my cosy bed

I'm another one who has my mum there. Child care permitting she'll be there again. She offers extra support of dh like someone up thread said. She also stops me freaking cos I don't like her seeing me upset or worried. It's totally personal preference tho and I think partners should have a say too.

Boring week this week. Mandatory study.
Step fil is not good at all. It's the worst kind of stroke, a bleed rather than a clot and a big one at that. It's still a bit touch and go really.

lumpy so sorry to hear of your stepfil stress, hugs

Morning all,

Welcome bunny, I was 20 weeks on Sunday

I'm going to change the setting on the stats spreadsheet I did, because I've not been on here for about a month now, and I'd like to make sure everyone is up to date and correctly documented

Congrats Jols, Baking and fox

I'm really hoping flea is more co-operative tomorrow when we go back and I can join a team - any advice on how to get it moving? Its wide awake from about 8pm to 5am but then seems to settle down and have a sleep, and I doubt they'd be happy scanning me at those times :-)

Also got my VBAC consultancy tomorrow, there were a couple others on here that were going that route, has anyone had their consultation yet? Or had previous experience?

My sonographer needed the baby to move at the scan yesterday MTB so she got me to go for a wee. Seemed to do the trick.

Re: mums. Mine is great practically, but rather too matter of fact to be much good emotionally! For example, if I complain about my job she will say 'well that's life, me and your Dad did it for 40 years, suck it up' OK, she probably wouldn't say 'suck it up' but that's the gist. I imagine it would be the same sort of thing if I was in labour 'don't be so dramatic, I did it 3 times, you knew this was coming...'. That makes her sound mean, she probably wouldn't say any of that stuff. But she might, and it would piss me off, so she's not coming!

Got my preg yoga starting tonight. Quite looking forward to it! I've don't think I'm joined a class of any description ever. School PE put me off!

STATS UPDATE

Right all - I'm pulling my finger out and not taking the lazy option so I am updating the stats spreadsheet.

Please can you add your details here and I'll make sure I've got you on the stats - new charts and graphs coming soon

MTB there are some on that list who are no longer with us due to losses, eg souredstones. Also Pram is still Juicyfatsteak on the list.

BWP and Cass, I've sent you FB friend requests so I can add you to the group once you accept.

Fox I'm thinking of Preggy Yoga - I've done yoga before and wasn't that into it (all a bit too cosmic for me, I prefer Pilates) but I like the idea of a bit of relaxing stretchy time as I've started to feel like I'm about 103 years old at the end of each day from sitting in my office chair all day.

Think I might treat myself to a bit of pampering this weekend too - maybe even a massage. I slept on a really hard bed at the weekend and my back is not thanking me for it.

The Facebook group - what exactly is that? (sorry probs a stupid question!)

Lyra - thanks for that - I was going to go back and try and remove the losses, so appreciate the heads up

fox - I tried full bladder, empty bladder some hot sweet tea (4 sugars - urgh!) nothing - I went in 3 different times and eventually she conceded nothing was going to make it move.

Stubbornness runs in the family on both mine and DP's side and it appears flea has picked up a full dose

Ours was a stubborn little monster too - luckily it behaved beautifully for the all the screening but decided firmly against having it's picture taken at the end!

I did lying on my side, emptying my bladder (twice) and drinking cold water. The sonographer even let me go back in after the next lady had been seen to try for pictures again but it was curled up in a ball facing the back so all we got to see was spine and back of head.

At this point we were laughing so much at it's pure naughtiness and un-cooperation but were so relieved that medically everything was fine, the pictures didn't seem that important anyway!

Thanks MTB I've added my updated info :)

Welcome bunny

Sorry things aren't looking good for your Stepfil Lumpy

I've been in a horrible mood for the last 3 days, poor DH I've been taking it all out on him. I don't even have a reason for my bad mood but I just can't shake it! :(

I've updated my stats, it still had my old due date on so all my relevant info is there now.

MTB could you try a really cold can of coke? I suppose anything it worth a shot! Our baby was lying facing up so when she needed to do other measurements she asked me to go for a wee and baby turned after that so that she could measure the spine etc.