MARTIANS 2014 - Thread 7: Are you due next March? Do you have wrecking balls for breasts? Getting moist over iCandys? Then come and talk shyte with us..

[PramQueen1971]

Thread 6

Oh that's interesting Lyra. So I can breastfeed and also express into a bottle so that DP can have a go at feeding the baby?

Thanks, Lyra.

Mummy, yes I would be on fertility drugs which would not suit a breastfeeding baby.

Here you all are!

Quite some debate going on here. I must say that I have no intention of any routine I the first few weeks. I have never had a baby so will be on a massive learning curves it is, without stressing about routines.

Though I am all for routines, my mums advice was 'baby falls into your routine, not the other way round'. Which makes sense to me. No, I don't want a baby that can't ever be away from me, but I also don't want to be a prisoner to set nap times.

Unfortunately, once MrM is back at work, I think I will get little help at night. He works shifts and literally would not cope with no sleep

Prammy I can't believe you're thinking of starting treatment so soon after birth. You're so brave. I couldn't imagine going through all of this again with a newborn. Hats off to you lovely

Hotcross, absolutely. You may find you don't have enough milk to feed and express at first, but your body will make the amount of milk your baby and expressing needs demand eventually. It may take a little time to build up though. Basically, the more you feed, the more you make. A lot of women who have trouble making enough milk initially will partly bottle feed, which in turn leads to their body producing less milk. Better to feed often so your body recognises the need to produce extra milk. Others have milk in abundance from day 1. Does that make sense?

It does! I'm so happy. I really want to breastfeed, the only downside for me would be that DP wouldn't get to have that experience of feeding the baby.

I'm honestly learning so many things since I've became pregnant, they should teach you some of this stuff at school!

I meant to say - but now he can feed them!

Yeah, I like the idea of expressing so DH can feed too (and rather importantly - he does too). But I've heard so much conflicting advice about when to introduce a bottle. Too soon and they get 'nipple confusion', too late and it's too late. I wonder if they'll invent hormone injections for men so they can produce milk too...

I definitely second the advice about getting the odd bottle feed in so you can have a long bath or go for a hair cut whatever.

We gave DD one bottle a night when I had a bath, it meant DP could feed her and have DD fall asleep on him, which he loved. But the annoying health care person insisted it would cause nipple confusion so we stopped.

When I returned to work DD refuse to take a bottle at all, and would scream all day until I could come home and breast feed her - eventually we moved her onto a doidy cup - with a lot of help from us and mess - but it was all she would take

On the breastfeeding front, just one bit of advice to remember (which applies to every aspect of pregnancy and motherhood)...

Everyone is different, some people have better eyesight, better hearing or are better athletically or academically, as with labor, child birth and breastfeeding, we're all different, some of us will find certain things very easy, others will find aspects physically impossible, and the same with your baby, some will hold their head up sooner, some will sleep through from birth, some will cluster feed

Don't get hung up on what you or your baby can and cant do

Nipple confusion?? Babies are a minefield!

hot cross I'm going to bite the bullet and speak to the accountant next week so will let you know what they say then too!

comms ill start a book thread on the fb

was anyone else wanting the join the fb? xx

Comms the latch on the breast is different to the latch on a bottle, apparently a bottle latch is an easier latch so the baby can become lazy and then not be able to feed from the breast.

Grey I haven't joined the Fbook group yet but feel more comfortable about doing so now i've had the scan. Could you send me the link/details and I'll do it at some point this weekend. When I can get on to a laptop.

hi mimili i'll pm you the details now - good job you said before i went out for dinner as I'm going for sushi so may not be around afterwards

Hi ladies, is there room for one more? I had my scan this week and EDD is 15th March. I now feel I'm pregnant (like the nausea isn't enough of a reminder) and need the company if other hormonal, sicky women as I seem to have become allergic to DH

Thanks Grey Hope you enjoy/survive the sushi!!

Haha all this talk about baby routines im only 14 weeks!! Im not planning/buying anything untill 20w scan just cause if somethin did go wrong (im sure it wont) id be even more heartbroken but thats just mee infact i dont feel pregnant today lol :( me and oh had a huge argument last night after he come back in from work and ended up storming out then coming back 5 mins later (lol) to start on me again hes being rediculous on a good note i feel alot better and went out for the first time in 10 days today!

Had a shitty phonecall with employer, had ago about me being off for 8 days (despite having dr note) and said to me 'just because your pregnant you think your untouchable well your not' etc etc had to appologise ten times for her to give me somw shifts next week im sure shes not allowed to say things or threaten me when ive got a dr note? Everythings going wrong at the mo and so scared of it having an effect on bubba :( xx

gawjus - she's definitely not allowed. Tell her if she carries on, you'll quit and immediately start court proceedings for harassment, discrimination and constructive dismissal. Your boss sounds like a twat. Am I right in guessing it's not a large national business?

Its a private nursing home :/ but i have no proof of what she said because it was over the phone ahe was so horrible i was nearly crying!! I had to practically beg for her to not cancel my shifts ..xx

gaw How long have you been with DP for?

She sounds like a right bitch Gawj. She can't threaten you like that.

Welcome BNMum and congrats on your scan - sorry that you're one of us who is still suffering with morning sickness

gawjus - and she has no proof that you'll have threatened to leave but it will certainly give her something to think about. A private nursing home seriously can't afford to be taken to court and constructive dismissal claims are often 'their word against mine' but frequently result in settlements as the company is more than aware that the incidents probably did happen and therefore cannot guarantee lack of proof before the proceedings start. Stand up to her, then start keeping a detailed log of her behaviour in regards to what shifts she gives you and of what she says to you...start that lig right now hy writing today's date, the time of the call, approximate duration and a rough account of what she said. x

Oh gawj I'm so sorry that the 2 people you really need to be supportive and understanding right now are the 2 people who are behaving so nastily towards you. Why is it so hard for them to understand that growing a miniature person inside you makes you feel like utter shit? No help, but huge sympathy from me.

Welcome BNMum! You'll have a job keeping up with this lot!