Due October 2006, PART THREE!

[Gemmitygem]

Thought I'd start a new one..

But will make sure no-one's left on the old one.

Hope everyone is blooming and not too hot!

Hi everyone - Emzickle, I totally sympathise with you with pil - my mil doesn't give accross her opionions quite like that, but she lives 2 seconds accross the road and 'pops over' all the blooming time. DOES MY HEAD IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In terms of forceps etc, I totally understand where you are coming from, I didn't have a c section and was totally prepared for it with dd, but am scared in case I have to have one this time - I think though its gonna be harder with 2 babies and not being able to drive for 6 weeks. They cut me with dd - (ouch), but, as already said it took less time to heal.

You do what you want to do - don't be pressurised by anyone - not even the midwife as they can be quite forceful and make you feel like poo (anyone else been through that?? - maybe another conversation altogether!)

Just remember this is YOUR birth, your day, you do whatever makes the whole experience better for you, as it is something you will remember for the rest of your life!

Lecture over! xxx

Hi Emzickle - your birth plan is an entirely personal thing and nothing to do with your PILs. Go with what you think is best for you.

But please don't be too put off by your nephews' births. My DS was a forceps delivery and I wouldn't describe it as a horror story at all. Maybe it was because I had an epidural, but I didn't feel a thing and it was really quick. At the end of the day I was happy for DS to be out safe, regardless of how. I certainly wouldn't be too upset if I had to have another forceps delivery - although I obvioulsy would rather manage without one.

thank you!

is it just me, but I didnt get MS thanking my lucky stars, but Im increasingly suffering from evening nausia... i dont feel like eating, I just feel over tired and sick. Plus I feel all "backed up" as it wereoh dear, better get the prune juice out.

Any recomendations of what to take to regain "natural order"? Have never suffered before...

Finally got round to adding myself!

1st - Whiffy, baby girl, 2nd baby, DS 2.10yrs
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3rd - Jobot, baby boy, 2nd baby, dd 14 months.
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9th - Seona1973, baby boy, 2nd baby, dd 2.9yrs
=====Tigerlion, baby girl, 2nd baby, ds 12 months
---Highlander, baby boy, 2nd baby
---Hana, baby girl, dd1 5, dd2 19 m
10th - mamado, baby girl, 2nd child, dd 2.8 yrs
=====nicand2, baby boy, 2nd baby ds 21 months
=====majormoo, boy, 2nd baby, dd 3
11th - Emzickle, baby girl, first baby
12th - Swizzler, first baby, colour unknown
13th - Justers, first baby, colour unkown
--Mrs Blobby, baby boy, first baby
=======marthahm, unknown type, first baby
14th Luboo - 1st baby - pink one
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16th Girlygale1 - pink! (1st date) 2nd baby dd 2
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21st DogMum, first baby.
22nd nowanearlyNicemum - colour unknown, 2nd baby, dd 1.11
23rd Girlygale1 - pink!2nd baby dd 2(2nd date!)
-Binbon2 - colour unknown, 2nd baby, DS 3.25
24th -Wuzzlefraggle, first baby, pink one!!
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31st Gingeme, baby boy, 4th baby, 3x ds 12, 11 & 2.4 By marthahm on Monday, 14 August, 2006 6:10:20 PM

1st - Whiffy, baby girl, 2nd baby, DS 2.10yrs
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3rd - Jobot, baby boy, 2nd baby, dd 14 months.
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9th - Seona1973, baby boy, 2nd baby, dd 2.9yrs
=====Tigerlion, baby girl, 2nd baby, ds 12 months
---Highlander, baby boy, 2nd baby
---Hana, baby girl, dd1 5, dd2 19 m
10th - mamado, baby girl, 2nd child, dd 2.8 yrs
=====nicand2, baby boy, 2nd baby ds 21 months
=====majormoo, boy, 2nd baby, dd 3
11th - Emzickle, baby girl, first baby
12th - Swizzler, first baby, colour unknown
13th - Justers, first baby, colour unkown
--Mrs Blobby, baby boy, first baby
=======marthahm, unknown type, first baby
14th Luboo - 1st baby - pink one
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16th Girlygale1 - pink! (1st date) 2nd baby dd 2
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21st DogMum, first baby.
22nd nowanearlyNicemum - colour unknown, 2nd baby, dd 1.11
23rd Girlygale1 - pink!2nd baby dd 2(2nd date!)
-Binbon2 - colour unknown, 2nd baby, DS 3.25
24th -Wuzzlefraggle, first baby, pink one!!
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30th Bendyb- first baby, blue 1!
31st Gingeme, baby boy, 4th baby, 3x ds 12, 11 & 2.4

hi all,

I haven't been online much so haven't caught up..

whiffy, would love to get contact details of your reflexologist, cos Faversham is only 5 miles from my mum's.. so would be perfect.

I'm trying not to worry as apparently the head goes down in 95% of cases...

off to italy on sun.. (if they let me on the plane!)

hi to new ones!

Have good hols GemmityGem. Unbelievably, sun sounds good now.

Girlygale, don't worry too much about a caesarian. Decide how you want it if you have to have one (awake/asleep, see what's going on or not etc.), but my understanding is that the risk of caesarian goes down after the first birth.

Marthahm, I'm 'working' on my birthplan at the moment. Physically, is forceps preferable to ventouse? If so, I'd like to get that in. I was going to leave perineal massage to week 34, but perhaps I'll start now just in case. As for nipple preparation, I can't remember which book I read it in, but basically our bodies are getting our nipples ready and we shouldn't use anything unless advised by midwife or doctor (eg. for inverted nipples.) Also, the book said that nipple preparations can do more harm than good. Anyway, haven't we got enough to worry about?

I didn't think any of the creams and stuff for nipples are supposed to be any good? Mind you I never tried last time so can't talk with authority. One thing I do recommend 110% for nipples once LO's arrive is cabbage leaves. I PMSL when someone advised me that last time, but was soon converted. This time round I've planted them up in the garden don't know how, but by god they work.

Gemmity you will have to drop by when you are next near Faversham. I live 2 miles from Faversham so we can have girly gossip sitting out next to my cabbage patch. The reflex woman is called Jane and the number is 01795 533666 Richard & Ursula are also very nice therapists there but Jane is the fab fab one who runs the place. Ask to talk to her and if you explain why you want reflex she'll manage to fit you in whatever day/time you are around. I've sent loads of people to her and they've all raved. Tell her your pregnant mate Lisa recommended her. The place is at 'Brogdale' which is about 1 mile from central Faversham. Brogdale is signposted from the A2 between Faversham/Sittingbourne - the turn-off is near the large School/speed cameras near Faversham town centre.

Have just set up my new Natures Nest hammock and it all seems so very very real now. Still not sure what to do with DS though - he took one look, tried to climb into it and then announced that HE was going to sleep in it from now on. Uh oh.

Morning.

I've got my first "parent craft" class tonight, thought I would be excited and I was worried Dh would be crapping himself, but actually TBH, he just called me to say how cool it is to finally be able to meet some ppl our age having babies around here, and Im sitting at home DREADING IT

help? squeeeel

emzickle, firstly, you have my sympathy with the pil thing and the nausea etc. as for the parent craft classes, are they the same thing as ante-natal classes? make sure you let us all know how you get on

hope that every1 else is ok and feeling well

Emzickle: my fisrt antenatal class is on Thursday and I will be going on my own as DH is away. I've told him to come to the last class (tour of the hosptial) but the rest are optional. He's the most unsociable person anyway, so would prefer reading up on everything rather than having to (the horror!) listen to other people...

dogsmum, glad to hear the mil doesn't know what she's talking about! will tell her next time she tries to talk to me about nipples...
ventouse deliveries can be v. gentle too if it's just a question of guiding the baby's head, the problem occurs when they have to apply so much effort that they put their foot on the end of the bed for traction. it's a hard call to make, i know one osteopath friend of mine told them she'd sue if they used ventouse and that she wanted a c-section if they were considering ventouse, but you could say that's a bit extreme. ideally you'd be able to trust their judgement on how much force they think they're going to need and then you could say no if you didn't want it-but obviously doesn't always work like that.

Emzickle - parentcraft classes v good place to meet new mates - you will probably enjoy. also excellent source of humour to keep you going over next few weeks. My favourite quote from one of the girls at NCT class was 'I am so looking forward to the baby as it will be a way of my & DH coming even closer together' said with wide-eyed doey look of devotion towards v embarassed husband. The quote is actually even funnier the more experience of parenthood you get (closer together? ye gods, do you not all know about the weekends 'shift' patterns yet?). The girl in question was, incidentally, the same one who ended up with flat stomach straight after childbirth, which unfortunately debunks the myth that the god of childbirth is necessarily fair.

emzikle-hope you enjoy your class. I made some great friends from mine.
I'm still hoping my baby is going to turn head down before birth but at the moment feels like it is still lying across

Good evening ladies. I remember going to anti natal classes with ds1 and 2 . We used to have a great laugh and chat for ages after it was finnished. Met up with a couple of ladies after our babies were born too as it was a small village I lived in at the time and compared notes etc. Didnt bother with ds3 guess I didnt feel the need. But Im sure youll all enjoy them.
Baby seems to be laying across alot too. Never had this with previous pregnancies. Trouble is he must be laying on a nerve because it makes my left thigh go numb and tingly after a while. Can feel his kicks in my sides too rather then above and below.

Hi everyone, I went to a couple of classes with dd - dh came to the first one and the tour of the hosp - but he already has a son from previous marriage so wasn't really that interested. I have got 1 class in a couple of weeks - set up for 2nd time mums, so should be quite nice to meet some other mums in my situation. Mind you, it is only the 1 session so not sure I will get the opportunity to meet up with the others again.

Need a little advice - dd is 2 half and has become really clingy - when we go to toddler groups she won't go off and play anymore, she wants me with her all the time, and if I put her into a creche then I've had it, she screams the whole entire time I'm gone. Won't let me go now. Someone mentioned it might be because she senses something happening ie; the new arrival - others said it could just be her age. When we are at home she doesn't want to know me!!!!!!!!! Has anyone had this? What do I do!! She is due to start playschool on 8th Sept and I'm dreading having to leave her - but know I have to.

Girylgale

My neighbour's DS is 3.25 ad she is unable to leave him anywhere. She has been taking him to playgroup for 6 months and has not yet been able to leave him. She has a baby of 8 months, but I don't think it is down to that.
Last week he wouldn't even stay with me for 5 mins while neighbour took the baby home to change her nappy, and he has been coming round every week since he was a baby. I haven't any useful suggestions, I'm afraid, just letting you know that your dd isn't the only one.

binbon1, thank you for your replies to this and the other thread too - I hate pregnancy, and hate not being organised/in a routine, I know it takes time and am learning to stop giving myself such a hard time about things ... ie how to lighten up and get a life!!! But as you say time will tell!!!

Am very worried about leaving dd - not due to heartache from me leaving her, sometimes I need the time out! - but more the distress it will cause her and potential problems it could lead to in the future. Fingers crossed it won't be that bad! ???!!!

oops sorry Binbon2!

HI every1!
Hope your all ok, emzickle- hope the class went well.
Think i had some braxton hicks last night! My stomach kept going all tight, dunno if it was tho!
I'm busy packin at the moment, we are moving house next week!!! Only found out a few days ago!We had been lookin 4 somewhere bigger but didn't have any luck so we decided 2just wait till after xmas, but now we've found somewhere!
I'm gettin myself into a panic, hows it all gonna be ready in time 4 the baby!!!???

class was ok - we had to write down what we would like covered over the next few weeks, I asked about how best to avoid intervention etc, and how to cope with pain without pain killers, when it was read out, one of the other fathers scoffed and said "who ever wrote that (laugh laugh) is a hippy!"

charming - any way, the MW who took the class was nice, so... never mind. Scared me really, as I've never really considored needing to go to hospital at all when I have the baby, and they were all talking about having epidurals etc, made me worried really... ahh well

Oooo and I'm 32 weeks today!!!

emzickle-don't let that man ruin your classes-just ignore him. Like he is going to give birth!
Try not to worry too much about epidurals and the like. There is no way of knowing which way your birth will go, but most people don't need epidurals anyway. And if you find that you do, well does it really matter? I know it is easy to say when you have already been through labour so know what to expect, but try as much as you can not to worry about it. What will be will be in the end!

Girlygale-I guess it is hard to tell what is going on with your DD but it could well be that she senses something is about to change in her life. Have you got one of those books you can read with her about mummy having a baby to reassure her she will not be forgotten when the new addition arrives? Toddlers are a fickle bunch and can change so quickly though, that she may well be fine again by the time she starts playgroup. I don't really have any advice, other than I think you should still send her to the playgroup so she can mix with other kids and give you a break. My dd is a bit older-turned three a couple of weeks ago-and she really gets a lot out of going to her childminder and playing with the other kids, but I have had phases when she was younger when she would howl the place down when I left her.

emzickle, just think yourself lucky that Mr. Juan Kerr is not going to be present at your birth and feel sorry for the poor cow who has to put up with him. Swizzler, if you can persuade DH to go along to your other classes it's well worth it, especially for the relaxation and stuff on pain relief. Now we've done a few classes, I think DP will cope much better with the birth. He's also resigned himself to the fact that he's going to have to mix with more people once we have a child. We've got NCT classes starting in a few weeks. I hope they turn up some gems like Whiffy's. Wonder if that couple are still together.

Girlygale, I sympathise with your situation but have only had to deal with separation anxiety in dogs, not children. With a dog you'd first of all make sure they've had some activity so they don't have too much energy to throw into chewing the doorframes, then you'd start by leaving them for a short time at first, always telling them that you'll be back soon. I guess children are more complex creatures (I'll find out), but I've never heard of one that chews the doorframes. Hopefully she'll gradually feel more secure as she gets used to the idea of the baby and what it will mean for her. I really hope you have a better time soon.

Hello all, I have just found this site so thought I'd join up. I'm due my first baby (girl) on 20th October. So excited but also daunted with how to prepare and those buggy choices!!!! Also I'm an oldie (41) my twin sister has 3 and all but one are adults now so I'm a little behind!
Hope to have some interesting chats and advice in the next 9 and a bit weeks!

ahh excellent, another wrinkly like me. We are having a get together in London on Monday if youwant to come along and stuff yourself with pizza.