Due October 2006, PART THREE!

[Gemmitygem]

Thought I'd start a new one..

But will make sure no-one's left on the old one.

Hope everyone is blooming and not too hot!

How lovely one of each. Bet your well chuffed.

Hi gingeme - I'm expecting my second daughter ... this is the last child I'll be having as well!!!!!!

Had every intention of having a surprise ... but couldn't resist when we got there!!!!!!!! Totally happy with having 2 girls - all I've ever wanted is a little girl, so am now blessed with 2!!!! Well will be by end of Oct!!!!

Yeah am pleased with one of each, shouldnt be tempted for any more now!!

Why will you both ne stopping at 2? Im on number 4! And its another boy.My two fist ds were about the same age gap as yours will be Jobot.They are 11 and 12 now. Glad you found us anyway. They are a lovely bunch of ladies on here and so helpful and kind.

thanks gingeme how did you find the age gap? everyone keeps telling me i wont cope and must be mad to have them this close

Oh I didnt mean to have them so close. It was a breast feeding accident! They got/get on realy well. They are very close and keep eachother entertained. Though a little harder as they got older as they are both totaly hormonal and ready for pubity but they can still be realy loving and helpful.My next two are gonna be pretty close too as ds3 will be 29 months when this one is born. He is in total denial that Im pregnant though and when I ask him whos in Mummys tummy he says dinner or something totaly off subject like train or lorry!

That makes me feel a bit better thanks. admire you ++ having four!

Thanks but there will definately be no more. Not if dh has anything to do with it. Hes gonna get booked in the snip clinic as soon as this one arrives. Not risking it for a biscuit. Anyway ladies. Hope youll hang around and chat to all the other lovely ladies on this thread. Im going to drag my tired bump off to bed now. Chat to you soon xxx

Will speak to you all soon I hope, am off to bed as dd will be up with the larks

Welcome jobot and girlygale1 - you'll find that everyone is lovely and welcoming and very helpful on this thread. I've been finding it especially nice on pregnancy no2 as people are generally a bit less interested second time [I find!]. Gingeme - how do you find it being on your 4th - is anyone interested at all?

Girlygale1 - looks like you could have a birthday baby to me! My dd was due 10 days before my birthday but I went into labour 2am on my birthday and she did her best to arrive on the same day - unfortunately due to some complications she arrived 10.50am the next day. The midwife said that it is amazing how many babies share special days with their parents - its like they know when to arrive! It also certainly makes for a birthday you'll never forget

Good morning mamado. Funny you should say that because I was saying this to my Mum last week. As soon as you say to people its your 4th baby they either say'Huh! 4 your brave/mad' or they just say'Oh 4'and change the subject. The only person who can relate to this in my family as she recently had her 4th baby and we were talking about thereactions from people. What also suprised me was when I first fell pregnant with this one and 3 midwives said '4 a home birth then?'. why would I automaticaly want a home birth simply because its my 4th? I couldnt think of anything worse to be honest. No offenece to all the ladies who have had perfectly safe home births. But no thanks.

OOps my sister in law has just had her 4th baby. Forgot that bit

I agree with the home birth bit gingeme - it may be relaxing for some but the idea of the mess is awful to me! People already seem to regard me as a baby-making machine at work [I'm only on number 2!] - it must just get worse with each one! Do you love being pregnant or are you completely fed up of the whole pregnancy thing?

Oh God no I love it all. Even sort of the nausea bit because it means my hormones are doing what they should. I think the best bit of all is when like now the babys on the move and you see the little kicks and movements. Sometimes even the big kicks that can hurt a bit. What gets to me at the moment is the way all pregnant women a portrayed on tele as being hormonal messes and automaticaly turn into troll bitches from hell. Dont like to blow my own horn and maybe carrying boys agrees with my body but apart from feeling a bit tearful at the start of this pregnancy my hormones are pretty settled. If anything Im calmer than I am when not pg! My dh even said how calm and good I am at being pregnant. My 2 year old is running around in big boy pants this morning. Only seems like yesterday he was being born and brand new. One thing I can say to all you first timers make the most of it because it realy does fly by

hi ladies hope you are all well today, nearly at the magic 30 weeks now roll on saturday! I set this as a goal if I got to this stage i've only got 10 weeks till B Day or 12 if im over due and i've done ok . starting to feel big now but am coping ok. people are starting to see my bump more now and know i'm pg not just fat! I've really enjoyed being pg so far, and i will miss having a bump and feeling i'm keeping them safe inside I cant help thinking i will feel empty ? sure I will be to tired to busy to even notice though.

The birth conversation really tickled me as I was reading it, oh the joys we all have to come pooing on our midwifes etc I had to laugh (this is my first baby) when I got my birth pool home there was a plastic Sieve inside I was wondering what that was for then it dawned on me to catch the above and anything else. I am choosing to have a home birth and can understand the fears attached but i am not scared I have 100 % trust in my midwife and my body I have no fixed plans so I am ready for any change we need to make I'm just excited now. I know its going to hurt but if i'm relaxed i feel I will be able to cope plus the gas and air is there and pethadine if needed and an ambulance is only a phone call away if needed, midwife has re-suss kit and oxygen and will be with me all through birth. and i can be wraped up with baby in my own bed the first night with DH to look after us he wont have to leave us which he was worried about.
all you hospital girls I can totally understand your choice and i will be down there at any sign of trouble! and i'm not saying home birth is the best by anyway just my choice and wanted to crush some of the myths and fears attached. good luck to us all the bit i'm scared of is the placenta ! emmy x

Welcome new ladies. Hope you're all enjoying your pregnancies.

Mamado, thanks for the tips on birth plans and the reminder that well-mum and well-baby are the most important thing. I've started working on my birth plan and I have included what I'd like ideally, as well as what I'd like if interventions become necessary (including a bit on Caesarian, which I really don't want to have.) I realise it's only very draft at this stage, but for me it's an important step to make sure that I know what I want and that I can explain to DP too.

emmy, you're so right that there isn't a best place or way to give birth, just best for an individual. I didn't fancy a home birth (someone else does the cleaning in hospital.) All being well, my choice is the local midwife unit and then home after six hours.

Dogmum: do they let first time mums home after 6 hours? I was hoping, but thought they'd keep you in for a while

Welcome to emzickle, girlygirl and jobot - lots of us now! There is an Oct stats thread somewhere if you want to add your details (due dates etc.). We were also thinking of a meet-up on the 21st, prob in London if any of you can make it. Suggestions re venues would also be good as we haven;t organised anything yet!

Speaking of which, would it be really lazy to go back to Pizza Express as I know where that is (and I now know where the loos are)? Or will we really scare them this time?

Hi Swizzler. Pizza Hut sounds good. Im still not sure where it is but think I got the directions written down from last time. Something that will make you laugh cause it still does me. When I had my water birth obviusly They dont get you out each time they want to check your blood pressure and heart beat etc and when I started to push the midwife kept putting a long pole thing in with a mirror on the end. I just thought of when the police used these to find car bombs so I said to her 'you wont find any bombs in here!'. Maybe you just had to be there. I dont even think Ill bother with a birth plan.Just want it to be as similur as last time in the water with a bit of gas and air if needed.

Hi Swizzler, I think it depends more on things having gone smoothly than whether it's your first, second or tenth. Maybe lots of first time mums don't want to go home after six hours? If they do let you go home, the midwife visits quite soon anyway to check that you and the baby are ok and that feeding is established.

I laughed Gingeme. I'd like to use the birthing pool for relaxation etc before the pushing stage, but I really don't fancy the idea of the baby being born into the water. How about checking dilation? Do you have to get out for that?

evening ladies hope you are all well just have to tell everyone as i am so exited dd walked for the first time today!!!

Sorry if this is incredible irritating - but just so I can get my bearings, can you put next to your due date, pink or blue flavour, 1st or subsiquent ickle people

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hi emzickle, am fairly new to mumsnet so dont know how to add to your message but 3rd oct jobot baby boy, 2nd baby, have dd 14 months.

Jobot, I just copied and pasted the dates from Emzickles post and added mine to it. I have added you to mine

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Hi - not sure how to add dates either - 10th Oct mamado, baby girl, second child dd 2.8 months

Gingeme - I'm envious of your love of pregnaancy. While I do really enjoy it, I really don't like the getting bigger part and associated comments and I do get fed up by the end - although having said that this time has been easier than the first - does it just get more enjoyable each time? I agree with the calming effect though - I've found that other than some tearful episodes this time, my emotions are much calmer and even than usual.

I think you all have the right idea of wanting to go home from hospital asap after the baby is born. Even when the care during the birth is great, it seems like the after card can be somewhat lacking...and its not exactly restful in hospital. Last time I was in a room on my own for a week after, and while I didn't have other babies waking me all the time, people just seem to march in and out whenever they fancy! I think you mainly have to wait to see the paediatrician before you can go home so it depends on the time of day and if they are available or not.

Evening ladies ... hope this works! ...

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Wow - on your 4th babies!!! I am def stopping at no.2, only coz I hate pregnancy, and really am struggling at the thought of coping with 2 let alone 4 - totally admire you!!!

Is a waterbirth really that great? The thought of getting all wet and naked (no thanks - would have kept my knickers on if I could have!!) scares me, also I totally recommend a tens machine, so that would be out of the question.

Also the home birth, I like the idea of being at the heart of 'safety' (probably because I've had 2 miscarriages so dead scared of anything going wrong) and they clean up - so I don't have to think about cleaning up!!! But ... I am dreading another '1st night' in the hosp - if I can come home that same day then I'll be dead happy - I agree - being tucked up with dh to help is 100 times better than being with starchy nurses who frown at you because you can't get your new born to sleep !!! (that was awful!!!)