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November 2012 - the thread where Detective's baby arrives

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StuntNun · 19/11/2012 11:02

Previous ante-natal thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1608323-November-2012-please-form-an-orderly-queue

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ShellyBobbs · 24/11/2012 13:06

OMG! How many lovely new babies....

Congratulations to Fatima, Pikz, Detective, Kitkat and Swiss! Think yesterday could have been one of our busiest Grin

Kitkat Thank goodness you phoned up and went in x

Can't wait to hear your story Detective, my 3 kids cheered when I told them you'd had him and hubby said yesterday to find out which hospital you were in so we could all come and visit you Grin

ValiumQueen · 24/11/2012 13:31

brockle very good comparison to bath mat! Grin

ValiumQueen · 24/11/2012 13:33

kitkat what could have happened does not bear thinking about. But it did not happen. Baby and you will be fine. Hope your recovery is swift and relatively painless.

mrswee · 24/11/2012 14:37

wow congratulations everyone. I am now crying every time I read about one of your briths and well thats 4 times in the last 5 mins!

I'm starting to feel a bit lonely on this thread now! I knew that would happen as we got to the end... which I can't believe has come finally.

I'm hoping for next weekend at the latest! I'm due tuesday and have not been feeling close at all but have done a lot of walking bout up town today and baby finally feels lower.
I started taking caulophyllum 200c last night.. it's a homeopathic remedy that is supposed to avoid late births/induction and make birthing more gentle.. I only just found out about it and was going to buy 30c and take 3 times a day buut the homepath who works in the shop said it would be too late to start that and that I should take the stronger dose... which if you are ready can appernetly bring the birth on straight away so I was a bit Hmm when I took it last night as we had nothing arranged for dd properly.. but all ok so I hope it just gently brings things along and prevents delays.. we'll see!!

Passmethecrisps · 24/11/2012 15:01

Crikey mikey you ladies have been busy!

Congrats to brockle, swiss, kitkat and fatima! I wouldn't spare a minute thinking about what could have been kitkat. You have your LO safe and sound now.

All these intense and speedy deliveries are certainly keeping everyone one their toes. I hope everyone recovers speedily.

Undergrads, don't you worry! It won't be long at all before we are all together on the postgrad thread and none of us can keep up again!

mrswee · 24/11/2012 15:13

I've not looked in the mirror much recently except at my face... but today after having a shower I was checking out how bad my stretch marks are and.... OMG I have the worst acne bum I have ever seen! it's all over my bum and thighs.. I'm not sure how I didn't notice before but it is so unattractive, even more so that just my huge wobbily bum, which pre pregnancy was starting to look quite fine after watching my weight for a year.. booo.
I covered the area in sudocreme.. hopfully that will be effective!

TheDetective · 24/11/2012 15:19

Oh my word he is keeping me busy!! I don't get a minute!! I've had to toss up between having a bath and coming on here to post! You guys won Grin.

In a brief sypnopsis - it went tits up lol! Well, not worse case scenario, but not ideal! Maybe don't read the birth bit if you haven't had your baby yet...!

I went in for monitoring thursday lunch time, and gave my contingency birth plan in Grin. The midwife who I had seen a few times while going for monitoring agreed with me, that while what I was suggesting was not usual, it certainly wasn't crazy, or an unrealistic option. She got the consultant involved, and this involved me basically saying well, if you don't do it my way, I'm off home again, see ya! So yes, in true Detective style, I got my way. ARM then 24 hours to establish in labour, and prostin after that if no joy. Oh, and I'd be using the pool, and no CTG.

Was moved to labour ward about 4pm, in to a very swish room Wink which allowed DP to stay with me throughout the process - not something I had asked for, but I had said if I was in pain and unsupported that I would be going home. I didn't feel that DP needed to be there unless I was struggling.

Anyway, all of the arguments and discussions were unnecessary! With in 10 minutes of the ARM, the tightenings I'd been having anyway got stronger, and closer. 2 hours later I was growling slightly a lot through them, and told DP I wanted the pool, and now.

By 8.30 I was in the pool. Everything was going well, happy baby, contractions were strong and regular. I started using the entonox. It went straight to my head - I was giggling like an idiot for the first few attempts! The pool seemed to help too - there was a definite relief when I got in.

By 9.30 I was feeling pressure, and could feel myself pushing a little with contractions. That was the bit when I started to panic, and was saying I couldn't do it, and what if I was still 1cm. I remember distinctly saying why the fuck didn't I just have an elective section! When listening to his heartrate, I could feel that it was just over my pubic bone - a classic sign that you are fully dilated and the head is low. I felt that I was nearly there, but my mind took over and was convincing myself that I hadn't done it last time, and couldn't do it this time.

Around 10-10.30pm I think I asked to be examined - had declined earlier - because I was at the point where I felt I couldn't cope any longer as the pain was stronger and stronger. She said I was fully dilated and the head was at +2 (very low, ready to deliver near enough. Then she said, oh wait, hang on, no, you're 3-4cm and the cervix is still fucking posterior. That was the point I truely lost it. If I'd been fully I'd of carried on. I demanded an epidural Grin which there was zero resistance too... wonder why Wink. By that point I was a soggy mess, my head was in the water over my ears, god knows what I was trying to do - wash my hair possibly?!

I got out the pool and in a crazed state staggered to a new room. Anaethetist came straight away, and put the epidural in very quickly. Well. It was SHIT! It didn't do anything. Except the urge to push was stronger and stronger, and the pain stronger and stronger! I think this was around 11pm by now, but times are rather hazy! CTG was put on once epidural in, and there was the initial bradycardia which often happens with an epidural. The Registrar came in, and asked to examine me. Surprise surprise I was fully dilated. This was about 11.15pm. I was pushing with contractions, but his heart rate continued to dip, and was slow to recover. I knew at that point he wasn't a happy baby anymore. I had an FBS, and his PH's were ok, so I continued to push for another 15 minutes, when it was decided to go to theatre for a trial of instrumental - or section :( I was past caring, and could hear his heartrate, and knew he needed to come out.

Went to theatre, had an epidural top up despite my protests that it WASN'T FUCKING WORKING Grin and I was petrified that I would end up with my absolute worst case scenario - which was a GA section as with DS. I wanted a spinal, but the cocky arsed anaethetist insisted that I was fine with the top up. Anyway, he came out easily with forceps, 2 pulls and his head and body came with the second pull. He cried straight away, and I finally got the answer that I needed - and what I had suspected all along. He was tangled in his cord. It was around his body as well as his neck. From the very first CTG with the dips on movement, I just had this feeling that there was a cord involved somewhere. And I suspect the fact his cord was so tangled was why I didn't go in to labour despite all the false starts.

He looked shocked when he came out, but he didn't need any resuscitation. He looked and felt tiny from as soon as he was on me! When he was eventually weighed after I'd spent 2 hours trying to get him on the boob, he was 6lb12! Just 1 ounce higher than the growth scan I had at 39 weeks... hahaha! He is very long though, long, skinny, and scaly! Poor wee thing! He needs fattening up, he does look small for dates rather than just meant to be a smaller baby. He has absolutely massive hands and feet, his fingers are chubby as hell, and his toes are as long as fingers! He looks like no one! Not me, not his daddy, or his brother! But to me, he is perfect!

Everything since then has been a blur. I'm very very very sore from the episiotomy, and braved a look this morning. It is extremely bruised and swollen. One of the worst I have seen but not the absolute worst thank fuck. I am struggling to do anything at all. Feeding, moving, it all hurts to buggery. DP is currently out buying me arnica tablets and lavender oil. I've got an ice pack on my fanjo... which helps. But oh my god, it hurts!

I couldn't have stayed in hospital though. They are lucky I stayed as long as I did! I had been planning to come straight home, but thanks to the epidural and catheter, I was restricted somewhat! I demanded the catheter out at 8am, and stated I was going home by lunch! There was lots of faffing with his temperature as he kept getting cold. Yes, he was getting cold because he kept being unwrapped for feeding, and checks! They were taking his temp hourly, which was pointless because he was unwrapped so much he didn't have the bloody chance to warm up! I'm quite able to deal with a cold baby, thanks! And don't tell me I can't self discharge my own baby, because YES I CAN! Jeez. I ended up leaving at 3pm, minus discharge notes, and sent DP back for them in the evening. I just needed to be home, as I was so sore, and I needed my own comforts!

All in all, not what I wanted, but not my worst case scenario, and I got my lovely little boy here safely, and at the right time! I don't feel any disappointment over the birth, quite the opposite really. I am just made up that he came vaginally, and I didn't end up with another section.

Sorry for the epic post in true Detective style!

Going to attempt to graduate to the PN thread this evening, but I need to wake the monkey for a feed... so this could take a while Wink.

TheDetective · 24/11/2012 15:22

Ps. I'm a roarer... I deafened the entire labour ward Grin. DP described me like a death metal singer.

It helped though Grin.

Bryzoan · 24/11/2012 15:32

So lovely to hear all went well in the end detective. Little monkey, fighting his cord like that. Sounds very scary and difficult in places but a real achievement. Hope you heal well and soon, you get some rest and the feeding goes well.

I'm bouncing about the house trying to jiggle this baby towards the exit but don't feel close. Tomorrow is my last day for a homebirth, and I'm lined up for an ARM on Tuesday. I just hope he is ready, but am looking forward to meeting my little man.

Bryzoan · 24/11/2012 15:34

I should think you would bloomin' roar at forceps and an epidural that wasn't working!

jenbird · 24/11/2012 16:01

Don't know who I missed since last time I posted - can't keep up with all the new arrivals so congratulations to everyone.
misslaughalot I am the same as you I think. Would like to keep my legs crossed tonight though as my in laws have a party and I would prefer not to have to rely on my incredibly unreliable mother. She lives 5 doors away but I prob see her once a month and she rarely phones. She has phoned everyday for the last few days (which really annoys me) but today when I phoned 3 times I can still not get hold of her. If I needed her to come over quickly it is perfectly plausible it would take her an hour to arrive. Hopefully the baby will hold out until tomorrow then!
Big baby vibes to all who need them x

MissMummy1 · 24/11/2012 16:16

So glad he's here safely detective. Big hugs to you, and good on you for fighting your case despite everything conspiring against you!

Quick question (and I feel stupid even asking) but basically can torn stomach muscles stop you from feeling baby move? I haven't 'felt' anything all day, but can see my bump moving, hear a strong heartbeat and kicks on the doppler paranoid mummy had it out 3 times today and feel slight movements against my hand. Is this normal? Am i freaking out over nothing? Is it worth phoning assessment unit for the third time this week?? I shouldn't be left alone to analyse things....

MissMummy1 · 24/11/2012 16:22

Or could my back be masking movements? It's worse again today Sad although I did manage to have a shower by myself and load the dishwasher! Simple things that feel like a massive achievement right now!!

mrswee · 24/11/2012 16:36

missmummy your back could well be masking the movements or the position of the baby but why don't you just call triage and tell them what you told us, they will tell you if you need to be seen. After listening to kitkats story it's probably worth calling just to see.

Bryzoan · 24/11/2012 17:00

Missmummy that is interesting. My tummy muscles have separated too (makes my bump look enormous) - and I often find I can see movement I don't feel. I have an anterior placenta too which may not help. I would think if you can see movement it is fine - but if you are worried call and check (I've called to check loads of stuff - I'm sure they must think I'm quite mad...). Hope you either managed to swerve or survive your dad today.

MissMummy1 · 24/11/2012 17:09

I also have an anterior placenta bryzoan so haven't felt a huge amount of movement throughout this pregnancy anyway. Will see what dp thinks when he gets home, although he's convinced I'm totally neurotic. Mrswee it was katkit's story that freaked me out a bit. Urgh I wish I wasn't such a worry pants! I'm sure they have me on a list somewhere!! Blush

My dad in his usual stylie cancelled last minute and is coming tomorrow instead. He's also booked himself a long weekend away next weekend, which is so typical of him. Chances are he'll be away when he have junior tough . Angry

MissMummy1 · 24/11/2012 17:10

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Passmethecrisps · 24/11/2012 17:20

That's weird MM because I noticed towards the very end of my pregnancy I couldn't feel movements anymore but could see them. I am not sure if it was psychological or something to do with position.

mrswee · 24/11/2012 17:27

missmummy it did the same for me, I have left it few times recently when I have had less movement because I too have an anterior placenta but after reading that I thought, I'm not going to leave it the next time even though it's been fine before! I've jusy myself drank a huge glas of cold fruit juice to see what reaction I get as today has been quieter than yesterday.. got a good kick at the top of the bump so I am satisfied!
I'm sure it's all fine anyway.. I have been at so many MW appointments where you can hear a kick on the doppler but I felt nothing or where they have found it hard to find the heart beat due to the anterior placenta but I am lying there feeling kicks.... it's very confusing! so completly different form when I was Prg with DD and was getting kicked to bits all night long and couldnt sleep!

MissMummy1 · 24/11/2012 17:59

I had a glass of icy cold coke (normally can't stand the stuff, especially full fat coke) but the sugar/caffeine must have done something as my stomach is moving a fair bit now and I can feel strongish movements against my hand. My muscles/nerves must be totally wrecked Hmm

MissMummy1 · 24/11/2012 18:01

Position may well be it as well as I'm fairly certain he/she has moved down a bit today. If I'm still worried later I'll phone.

YellowWellies · 24/11/2012 18:14

Wahey ladies. Well done all! Detective I'm a roarer too - god it helped!!!

MM I think everyone's tummy muscles split in the last trimester to allow the uterus sufficient space - it might be that you have a bigger gap? Call triage if worrying. As an aside Jonas went quiet the day before labour so it could be a good sign though as kitkat shows don't dismiss it xxxx

jaylee89 · 24/11/2012 18:45

Detective I just want to say a huge congratulations you are an inspiration and you should be so blooming proud of yourself. I hope you heal up soon. Episiotomy are bastards. Hope you and little man are doing well lots of hugs from all us on here.

mummytobe1990 · 24/11/2012 18:59

hi all im 39+3 and am so fed up of this pregnancy! last few days though my bump is really really tender, i cant bear the hubby touching it as it just hurts too much :( it even hurts to put a tshirt on! anybody else experiancing this and what can i do to ease it if anything?

YellowWellies · 24/11/2012 19:02

Anyone who has an episiotomy - get yerself some big maternity pads and pour a couple of capfuls of witchhazel BP on a pad every time you change it. If you can keep the witchhazel on a cool windowsill so that it's cool on your nethers - so much the better. Also get your stitches cut (even if not removed) before you leave hospital or else you can feel a bit 'stretched' down below more pain than a back to back labour