November 2012 - please form an orderly queue

[StuntNun]

Previous ante-natal thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1602708-November-2012-its-here-at-last-were-ready-for-you-babies

Post-natal thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1579907-November-2012-babies-are-here-at-last

Stats list: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1485512-November-2012-Stats-List

Congratulations on all the new babies! Am 38+5 today. Went to the midwife today and apparently the baby is only 1/5 engaged. It was previously fully engaged so no idea what is going on!

Been reading some threads re induction which are rather worrying re do ties "insisting" on induction. Will need to practise my best "No" is a complete sentence face. I'm booked in to wythenshawe and haven't heard many good stories about there at al. However, the truly horrific ones are all based around induction/augmentation - a favourite seems to be to put you on the drop whacked up to maximum ASAP and then refuse an epidural as the anaesthetist is booked up with emergency sections for the rest of his life. Alternatively, you're just left to give birth on your own ad midwives too "busy".

Midwife led unit seems better do desperate to avoid the docs if at all possible! Much bouncing on ball will commence tomorrow!

Sorry for all typos in last post. iPhone and insomnia not a good combo!

fatima - your news is very exciting. I think you are closest to me in dates so am well jel!

I've been lurking on the induction threads with you.
I'm also keen to avoid induction, I think I'd be ok with it if I was further along but I'm keen to avoid it at 40 weeks.
I've just done plenty of reading so I know the risks of induction and the risks of me going past 40 weeks so I can be fully prepared for my consultant appointment next Wednesday.

I'm in a similar situation wrt birth options. If I go spontaneously before 40 weeks then I can go to the local midwife led birth centre which is very laid back and home from home. If I have to be induced I have to go to the labour ward further away. I've suffered from depression previously and suffer from health anxiety and panic attacks that are currently under control, I think the MLU will be more relaxed and so enable me to have an anxiety free birth. So that's one reason I'm keen to avoid induction
There are others but I won't bore you with them all.

I've had a couple of strong BHs tonight but that's it, DH is snoring away again so I'm on the sofa watching Rumor has it

I'm happy to condider it. But I want to have an adult discussion about it, the pros/cons and alternatives etc. not be booked in by some officious midwife to go and see a consultant just "because".

I come from a medical family and all the medics are quite open about the fact that induction\augmentation is often fine to suit the hospital and their timelines. Not the patients/babies.

My DH has done a lot of reading on the AIMS website and us fully aware if the NICE guidelines etc. he is a dentist so not some whack job who wants me to give birth under a tree. But even he has been and about mat care. Don't e en get him started on the denial of pain relief - he thinks its a total scandal (and I want a natural birth) In no other branch of medicine is this routinely denied as people are too "busy" or are patients basically disbelieved when they say they're in agony. As he said himself, he would probably be getting st least 2 complaints a day if he tried to fob patients off like that. I think he's becoming a radical feminist!

Sorry - that was a total misspelled rant brought on by extreme insomnia tiredness!

Forgot to say - hope things start moving again tonight. At least a show shows you are on your way. So, hopefully all the induction chat will be irrelevant!

marking my spot. slightly sleep deprived and still loving keeping up with you girls.

Any more babies in the night?

I think MIL & SIL will drive me slightly mad by the end of their stay. They are being vey, very kind coming here but SIL is a loon when it comes to alternative "therapies" has a long list of food she can't eat and MIL has definite ideas on how children should be raised. Co-sleeping etc is in the same league as Little Britian style "bitty" to her.

SIL is going home next Thursday which is day I'm likely to be induced if the baby hasn't arrived by then. I feel a bit like they're standing there tapping their foot and going "come along now!" when I'm not even at 40 weeks yet.

DH is now also saying that he has to go away the week after I possibly give birth which will leave me with MIL & FIL (SIL will have gone home). I haven't yet put my foot down but I don't think I can cope with that AT ALL. It also happens to be the week we're moving into the new house and everything will be arriving from our shipment from China.

I can't FUCKING WAIT FOR THIS YEAR TO BE OVER.

I feel quite bad actually as I'm not excited about meeting the baby as it just feels like I have so much other shit to do.

I'm flexible about induction. I don't really care now as long as I get the drugs (private hospital, bloody better get the drugs).

Oh Jing sounds shitty as hell. I would hate hate hate dealing with IL's! Poor you. Meeting a new baby should be very exciting, even with a house move, I hope they dont bloody well spoil it all for you.

I'm snuggling with dd, loving it! Mum is here now and she is over at the supermarket buying something for tea.

Congratulations Lane, Martha Rose is a beautiful name: it sounds very timeless.

Clarella I'm not convinced by the whole 'ring of fire' thing they talk about on OBEM USA. I never experienced that when I gave birth vaginally and reading about it I suspect some women experience that sensation but not everyone. It probably depends on the size of the baby's head.

I woke up to a bit of blood on my pad this morning so I assume that's a show. I've had eight contractions since 6 a.m. and they're getting more intense but I don't want to get my hopes up after so many 'practice sessions' in the last couple of weeks. I'm 41 week today so it's about time!

Ow ow ow. Not labour, SPD. I know I have it easy really, it's only in one hip at nighttime (used to be both hips, what's that about?!). But it's sooo painful. Any postnatal ladies can confirm it disappeared immediately after birth? I think it did last time round. I'd love to be able to sleep more than 30 mins on one side before having to agonises ingle haul myself onto the other side. Humph.

38+2 today. It's my bday on Sat, last night DH and I booked cinema and dinner for sat evening and my mum is having DS so we can lie in on Sunday (although in separate rooms, with me in SPD agony and prob wake up at 6.30 when DS normally wakes us anyway!!). Tempting fate much d'you think?!

Contractions have stopped, all hopes are dashed once more

Quick TMI question but do you usually get blood clots in a bloody show? I passed something that looked like the lumps you pass in your lochia after birth but it went into the loo so I wasn't up for fishing it out and examining it.

You can do stunt. Just keep an eye. It is probably the actual show.

I'm in a bad mood. This baby is clearly having a laugh now!!!!!

I'm going to post a sat nav up my chuff . Defo a boy in there. Refuses to ask for directions to the exit.

Maybe phone and check Stunt blood clots over the size of a 50p piece should be recorded.

I have terrible pains this morning. Is it the curry and pineapple working or just a massive pootraction? Who knows, but guess I'll find out when walking DD to school in half hour

I'm sooo having an 11lb baby in Dec

Dixiebell my SPD was relieved during birth and ten times better straight afterwards, J is 10 days today and its a slight ache if anything, compared to the wheelchair bound, morphine agony I was in just before waters broke its amazing.

I just had another clot but it wasn't as big as a 50p. It was definitely a clot though, there wasn't any mucous at all. It makes me really paranoid after I had an abrupt ion with DS1.

Stunt I'd call. No one knows when my waters Offically broke but i passed several clots. I never had the Gush they speak of. I don't think I had a trickle!!

Good luck!!

My body is driving me insane.
Had a sweep yesterday, mw said cervix is very soft, baby is very low, I'm 2-3cm dilated and have bishop score of 8. So why is nothing happening?!!
I have five days to get this labour going naturally or I will be called in to have waters broken and can't go to mlu :(

What are the chances? I will accept induction as I'm in a lot of pain, but obviously would rather go naturally. DP keeps telling me to sit down. No! I want this baby to come out!

Sit tight swiss I reckon it will happen with the next few days with the baby as ready as it is. I think we will have another birthsplosion in the next day or so and I am pom pom waving for swiss charley detective and stunt . Sorry if missed anyone. I am having a PJ day as DS1 is off school ill. We are in our PJ's watching Chamber of Secrets.

Congrats Lane and apples. Can we have some baby pics pls!

swiss - watching with interest. Dint really have any tips speeding things up.

However, the midwife yesterday did advise lots of ball action to make sure baby was in a good position with head pressing in cervix well.

A girl at my NCT class thoroughly advocated nipple tweaking (!). Apparently a friend had done it an it really worked. However, she had done at least 2 hours per day (about an hour in the morning and one at night). Not sure I'm up to that!

These contractions are all over the place. They were six minutes apart then two and a half minutes apart for a while then five minutes apart. And some are lasting 25 seconds but I've had two longer than a minute. How are you supposed to know what to do when contractions are so irregular.

Thanks kitkat, it helps knowing someone else has been a bit daft with Dr Google.

I'm 40 weeks today

Still feeling rough as hell though. I'm doing everything right but just not shaking off this cough. DH has taken some time off work this afternoon to take me to my MW appointment. I'm pretty much in favour of having sweeps now as am really keen to go to the birth unit and not labour ward which I'd have to if I was induced. I'd rather avoid both but feel that a sweep will at least give me an idea of where my cervix is at.

Fingers crossed I get my nice MW today.

Hope you get the nice MW today waiting . I found the sweep useful yesterday because like you said it gives you some perspective on where you are birth wise. Be good to yourself and get lots of rest.

Good luck today Kissy, hope it all goes well for you.

Fatima that does sound like progress! Hope it doesn't take too long for you.

Jing that sounds like a nightmare without throwing a house move in the middle of it all - is your DH able to not go? I would be pretty definite that him leaving then is not an option.

Stunt I would ring and tell MW about the clots. Not sure about times of contractions but it sounds like something is going to happen fairly soon for you.

at sending in a Satnav!

I've had the best nights sleep for weeks and feel like a new woman! Didn't even wake up when DH left for work.