Due Dec 2012.........the one where we all have at least 1 picture of our little fruits!!

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Hi everyone, as we were close to the 1000 message limit i thought i should start a new thread so we could link this one (and we don't all end up wandering in cyberspace for a few days again )

Just back from mw all went well eventually, took forever and me getting up twice to move about to find a heartbeat which worried me like crazy but found it resting on my bladder loud and clear

Sorry olivetti I have no idea, maybe ask in pregnancy?

Bubbless sent you a PM with the hospital list...was going to break the thread if I sent it another way.

Congratulations on the 16 week appointments all. As someone said yesterday.. blimey you're almost half way there.

Olivetti

They can give you two different types of numbers: either they tell you the actual level of HCG/Papp-A in your blood, or they tell you a "MoM" number which is your result compared with the median. This is usually a number followed by MoM which means "multiples of the median".

So if the median HCG was 3, and yours is 1.5, then you might be told that your HCG is 1.5, or you might be told that your HCG is 0.5 MoM (i.e. half the median HCG).

Do you know if the numbers you quote are the actual levels or are they MoM numbers?

The "normal" MoM number is 1 for both Papp-A and HCG.

minipie - thank you, they are the MoM.

I rang the fetal medicine midwife, and she said the pattern was good (low HCG, average Papp-A) and combined with a very goot NT, meant very low risk.

I'm still worried, though, because as you say, 1 is the normal level....

Judging from the answer given here it looks like for Downs the usual pattern is high HCG (2 MoM or more) and low Papp-A (about 0.4 MoM). For Edwards/Patau the usual pattern is really low HCG and really low Papp-A (a lot lower than yours). So, your results don't seem to fit either "risk pattern". Bear in mind these are hormone levels and can fluctuate all over the place, even during a single day! Also blood results are only one of the factors they look at in giving you your risk rating.

If you were given a risk rating of 1:100,000 that is fantastic, I would rely on that. Don't worry!

Thank you, minipie. I know I am being neurotic, but that answer also says that a HCG MoM of less than 0.5 is abnormal, and merits investigation. Mine is 0.43! The hosptital said it was all fine, but I just can't help worrying, and it's my second child! I swore I would be more laidback.

Yes but it also says the NT is the most important and influential indicator - and yours was great. For comparison, I had similar bloods to you, and a high-ish NT measurement, and was given a risk rating of 1:104 (I had a CVS and all is fine as it turns out). That shows you how much of a difference the NT measurement makes.

I do totally understand your worry - we have so little information about our little beans that we tend to analyze to death any piece of information we are given (or at least I do!) Honestly, the hospital has waaay more statistical information available to them than we do, and they plug it all into their machine and if it has given you a 1:100,000 risk rating then that is far more accurate than any guessing that you or I could do.

BTW 1:100,000 is the best result I have ever heard of in case that makes you feel better!

bubbless we're finding out as our local private scan place can tell from 17 weeks and I'm 17+1 now, woo hoo!

Really sorry to hear your dr has been rubbish. I spent most of my first pregnancy off sick and just couldn't cope with work at all physically or mentally, don't listen to that dr just make sure you do what's best for you.

COD my mil is equally unhelpful so I've had to have the same discussion with my dh. He initially suggested we get them a key cut so they can pop round when they want the first week after I have this little one, I didn't stay very calm when he suggested this. My dmum and mil came into the delivery room after I gave birth to dd quickly followed by dh's nan and his dad which was a bit too much for me as I was still quite unclothed and bleeding on the floor, our mum's I could have coped with though. I'm thinking of not allowing anyone to visit until I'm on the ward this time.

I'm thinking of not allowing any visitors for two weeks I remember getting so, so fed up that my parents (I have step mum & dad too) each wanted to visit every other day for the whole nine days dd was in SCBU and for two weeks after we came out. I just wanted to rest and try to bond with my baby I wished they would just bugger off!

Great news cod!

Re visitors etc - I know there will be very few people I will want to see right after! Luckily (? Depending on the situation!) all family live a long way away!

I must be a bad mummy, although been given a bedside cot, I appear to be currently researching/ordering/buying more equipment linked to my festival camping trip in a month - head lamp and posh sleeping mat, not baby related :/ . Plus charity shop board games and a lamimator for new class/to make setting up new class easier in September (ofsted kindly wrote to tell us not to expect them before Sept 2012.) (Id be lying if I denied that a small part if my initial ttc research after getting married in October was spurred on by this knowledge, but it was mainly being 35, honest)

I must be better now - I also bought a lemon clock with the plan to set a science experiment for them remotely, sent through post with a layer of wrapping for each child saying 'soandsos' turn (luckily theres only 5 kids) and instructions for them to send back what the discover. Even though I know only 2 will be interested (rest will give around 30 seconds attention, no exaggeration) I'm actually getting a buzz. I haven't felt like that in ages :)

I plan to give birth then phone the families. My mum has already said she wants to see no sign of ick, and MIL is a retired nurse who lives 2 hours away - biggest nephew will be on uni holidays with any luck so we can bribe him to drive her down :o Everyone else will be informed by text of the basics.

I'm doing lots of talking about how i want to shift the baby weight quickly (was dieting and lost 2 of the 2.5 stone target i set myself when i found out) so hopefully folk will take the hint and wait til i visit them thank fuck Granny can't cope with the stairs up to the flat

I haven't announced I'm pg on farcebook so will probably wait a week or so before i do a birth announcement there

Wish I could get away with 2 weeks visitor free!

I won't get away with it either! I might limit them to one visit then none until dp is back at work, anyway it will be Christmas shortly after so they can see dc plenty then

I'd love my in laws to meet PidjChick straight away, because i know they'd pop in for half an hour and make me a cup of tea. I'm really looking forward to introducing the small dn's (7+5) to their new cousin :o Small nephew is massively excited to not be the smallest any more - he idolises big (19) nephew and wants to be just like him!

I don't mind visitors either, within reason.

IL's will want to come asap, and as long as they don't stay too long I'm fine with that. My parents will need to come for longer as we're overseas, but they will stay at a nearby hotel and not hang round too much.

I don't think anyone else needs to particularly rush round, but I would have thought people will troop through in the first couple of weeks. As long as they bring cake, make tea and don't stay long I don't think I mind.

This is my first though, so I could be totally underestimating how crap/emotional/exhausted I'm going to feel...

I just didn't like them all wanting to hold dd because she's mine! Plus I didn't get to hold her much when she was in SCBU so maybe that made a difference? Along with the fact I couldn't sit down for three weeks but with visitors there wasn't enough room for me to lay down all the time

I hope I'll be pretty quick to tell people to bugger off if I'm not feeling up to it, eg C section or something...

DP will be gatekeeper :)

Oh I finally heard from work!! 2 months after I got signed off...

They will pay me sick days only, which takes me to mid Sept, then pay me maternity for 6 weeks before and 8 weeks after due date, plus I can go back if I want.

Not as bad as I was expecting and just leaves me 9 weeks unpaid Sept-Nov.

Now just trying to decide if I'm going to want to go back or not. Its same-terms afaik so 2 hour commute, full time. I'm really not convinced I want to but not sure either how we'll manage relying on just the business income. Tricky decisions....

Hi all, thought I'd pop my head in. Currently in the jan thread, but scan last week dated me nearly a week ahead, with a due date on 28/12, so thought I'd say hello :) this is dc2, a very planned and wanted sibling for my pfb ds who will be just shy of 2 when this one arrives!

Hoping to have 20 week scan date soon, and gender scan even sooner!

Dp started his new job a couple of weeks ago, will he be entitled to paternity leave? He's planning to use a day of AL to come to the next scan...

Hi Bunty, welcome!!

Purple I've no idea I'm afraid... DP works for himself and I'm just relieved December is his quiet time or I'd be giving birth by myself in the store cupboard... :)

Welcome Bunty are you getting a private gender scan? Must be nice to find out you're a week ahead than you thought!

pidj
you must have continued to work for the same employer without a break for at least 26 weeks by the 15th week before the baby is due, or employed up to and including the week your wife, partner or civil partner was matched with a child

That's from the direct gov website

Thanks for your support, minipie Glad everything worked out for you, as well.

matched with a child??

I wonder which angel baby God (or insert deity of choice) is going to match me with!!! :)