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Sneeze births! We shall BROOK NO ARGUMENT about overcoming any issues in our way! (part 10 yikes)

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NinjaChipmunk · 20/04/2012 08:50

This way ladies

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pommedechocolat · 23/04/2012 10:56

musical - I totally understand not wanting certain things- for example I wouldn't choose a c section as the clotting/haemorrhage balance would really worry me with my condition. I just think that sometimes people are overly romantic about natural births and forget the very high rates of maternal and infant deaths pre medical intervention!

scarletfingernail · 23/04/2012 10:59

Too there are no words Sad

Lovely swimming costume Fluffy, good to hear you're feeling better. I've had cramps, pulling sensations, pains etc all the way through. I think it's ligaments stretching, but definitely worth mentioning to your MW if you are concerned. I'm sure she'll tell you it's normal.

Still nothing happening here! And I really liked the idea of a St George's Day baby. I've just heaved myself around Sainsbos again, got back and eaten half a pineapple and now I'm going to tackle the huge ironing pile. I felt like crying when DH went off to work this morning, it's now so hard looking after DS! He's a good boy generally, but he's going through a particularly stubborn stage of refusing to come upstairs/get dressed/clean teeth/get shoes on now etc. Everything's "in 5 minutes Mummy" "Just playing with my toys" "Not yet" Aaaagghhh!

musicalmrs · 23/04/2012 11:01

pomme - I completely agree! As lovely as a natural birth could be, I think some people get too caught up in it. I also don't understand people who look down on a medicalised birth. I often want to ask them that if they were in a situation where something medical had to happen to ensure the wellbeing of them and their LO, would they turn it down? If yes, then they're potentially mad... and if no, then they can't look down on it!

FluffyJawsOfDoom · 23/04/2012 11:07

:o scarlet - you poor thing! DS sounds like a star, but understandably infuriating!

As a slight aside, I witnessed the 'rolled up carpet technique' in IKEA for the first time at the weekend, it was quite funny in person :)

Thanks scarlet and musical - I'm not overly worried as it's been pretty constant since I got my BFP, it's reassuring to know you've experienced it too.

Biscuitsandtea · 23/04/2012 12:26

Scarlet are you sure you haven't got my DS there? Confused Mine is just the same at the moment.

'Lets get dressed'

'No thank you mummy, I'm doing this [insert pointless task] first' Hmm

It's not really a 'no thank you situation!'

Anyway that normally ends up in 'just put your pants on, stop waving them around and GET DRESSED!' Sad

I know it's not much consolation as it's so hard to keep your patience with them but just so you know you're not on your own xx

DH gets really fed up with it - I think he wants to send him to borstal Hmm. I do have to point out that, much as I agree such behaviour should be dealt with, I suspect that other 3 year olds also don't do what they're told at the first time of asking, so he's probably not all that bad Grin

pommedechocolat · 23/04/2012 12:34

Dd1 has started saying 'no thank you mummy' when I ask her to get dressed/put her shoes on/brush her teeth.

It's more polite than 'NOOO' which is what we had previously. You lot should be grateful they were ever cooperative IMHO as the mother of a stubborn, independent little minx who came out of the womb looking for things to say no to.. Envy Grin

hawthers · 23/04/2012 12:58

Snap here DS1 went through a phase of refusing to get dressed to the point that DH had to hold him down to do it. He is a bit better but has to pick out his own clothes with some interesting results. I occasionally have to inform people when I leave the house that I am not responsible for putting together his outfit!

He still denies having a poo as he really doesn't want his nappy changed. And frequently decides not to eat. Ah the joy of toddlers! But he is brilliant with f so all is forgiven

FluffyJawsOfDoom · 23/04/2012 16:34

Hey far look at this -> Dragon
I wonder if this is for the year of the dragon?

FluffyJawsOfDoom · 23/04/2012 16:35

Oh. DUH. It's clearly for St George. wonder if it's too early to blame baby brain

Wants3 · 23/04/2012 17:28

Well, that is one more day done! I spent most of it doing paperwork rather than being with the children but I want it all sorted before I leave! Bhs really ramped up again at work, the girls were getting a bit worried and encouraging me to stay on the Lino floor just in case:)

ScreamIfYouWantToGoFaster · 23/04/2012 19:07

Just checking in to see how Scarlet is doing. I hope your DS is behaving himself.

It's been a day of pain and suffering here. Intense pain down the right side of my bump. No idea what it is but it's not low down, or in my back, and it's constant not linked to my BHs, so the midwife consensus is that it's just part of the late-pg fun! LO is still moving fine (playing her favourite game of just how far into Mummy's rib cage can I wedge my feet).

The upside is all this pain is offsetting my nerves about the surgery - I just want it all to be over! Had a positive physio session, and I think my hips are as close to aligned as I can hope for. Also met up with my NCT group for the first time! That was wonderful, seeing the two little newborns that came along acted as a natural painkiller for this weird bump pain!

I hope all the politely obstinate toddlers are behaving themselves! Also, I totally agree with everyone who doesn't understand people who are anti-medicalised births "on principle". I certainly don't want to suggest that everyone should have a medicalised birth, I do however wish that certain pro-natural birth people were more respectable of those choosing the medicalised route. Personally I think medical options are as much a sign of humanity's progress as the internet!

TheLittleFriend · 23/04/2012 20:17

Marking place for miniScarlet & miniScream's imminent arrivals. Lovely little Dragon babies Smile

NinjaChipmunk · 23/04/2012 21:16

scream its brilliant that you manged a meet up with your nct lot, here's to doing it a whole lot more very soon!
WRT the whole small child getting dressed/ whatever task you ask thing I tend to give ds 2 options, would he like to do it now or in 2 minutes time? If he says no he's told that wasn't answering my question, now or 2 mins? It usually works. Although that said I think he'd be happy to run round butt naked all day if I let him. And I have an app on my phone for teethbrushing, it makes a brushing noise for 2 mins and a roaring every 30 secs to tell him to change sides. He loves it.
Nice cossie fluffy it looks very flattering. I'd mention the cramping to the mw if you are worried but I think its quite normal. Your body is growing in ways it never has before and needs to stretch and stuff.
I'm sure I came on here to say something important but I seem to have completely forgotten it. I have a creme egg and I think I shall eat that whilst I try to remember what I was going to say...

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scarletfingernail · 23/04/2012 22:18

I thought I might have had a couple of mild contractions. I'm not 100% sure and there hasn't been anything for about an hour now. Surely I should know what a contraction feels like? I've been through it before after all, but last time it was all felt in my back at the beginning. On the other hand I might just need to go to the loo, I've been very constipated the last week or so (sorry TMI).

Glad it's not just my DS who likes to disagree. Ninja I'm a big fan of the 2 choices,it is a good tactic which I already use. Although when I reach my wits end the choices often become "are you going to get dressed now? Or are you going back to bed? Shoes or bed?" Cue major tantrum. I hope my patience returns once this baby is out.

Scream one more day of being pg! I'm very excited for you. In 48 hours time you will have your DD and your recovery will have started.

hawthers · 23/04/2012 23:32

I go for the 'DS1 choose which trousers or mummy chooses' alternatively 'socks or trousers first' both nicely remove the discussion about whether it is going to happen :o

Biscuitsandtea · 24/04/2012 02:10

You see I let ds1 pick his own clothes, that's not too bad. Normally if I say 'come and pick now or I'll pick them' and set off towards the chest of drawers that will get that bit sorted. But it's the actual putting on of the clothes. If I did it for him I doubt I'd have a problem (he's kinda lazy that way!) but since he can do it all himself with no problem I won't generally do it. Obv I'll help him if he needs it or get him untangled etc. but even if I say something like 'socks or trousers' he'l pick once but nothing actually happens as far as putting them on! He just gets lost in his own little world. So he could easily get dressed in 5 mins but it might take him 20 (or more) to get started. I usually just tell him that I'm going down to have my breakfast once I'm showered / dressed and he can come down when he's ready, and he'll finally do something. We've tried the 'you can have 2 mins more' sort of tactics but all that does is delay the problem for 2 mins. He won't actually do anything after the 2 mins.

Still he's not really naughty, just easily distracted Hmm

Hope that all those imminently having babies are well. Scarlet if your contractions were at the back last time was DS back to back? Naturally this one won't be back to back so that you can have the sneeziest of births. But that would make the contractions feel quite different. Hope it is all kicking off for you!

And Scream - your last full day of being pg! I'm so excited that tomorrow you'll be snuggling with your wee one (even if you are having to fend of rellies!)

musicalmrs · 24/04/2012 08:20

Morning all!

Loving the clothes chat, and the polite yet distracted DS and DDs!

Scarlet, I hope that you've either had, or are currently having, your wonderful sneeze birth! If not I hope it puts in an appearance imminently :)

Scream, how exciting that it's TOMORROW!

Realised this morning that I have officially a month of being pregnant (and not in labour) left at the most! I already have an induction date of the 23rd May (they're booked at the first scan here), so if nothing's happened by then I know I should be on my way to a cuddly newborn of my own, hurrah!

Very bad top-of-bump pain today. Feels like intense sunburn - a constant burning pain, which is made worse when it's moved/aggravated. On that note, I wonder if aloe gel might help soothe it? Hmm..

Pouring with rain here today, so I intend to fill it with ironing, sorting and packing. Hoping for some delicious baby news from scarlet to brighten it up Grin

farfallarocks · 24/04/2012 08:52

Can't believe I have only just spotted the dragon but it's gone!!!

fluffy are you feeling better? I have had odd cramps off and on, I think its just ligaments stretching a bit of back ache which can sometimes feel quite crampy.

I had a consultant appointment yesterday to discuss clotting issues, she was fab and very reassuring. She then asked me to pop up on the table so she could 'have a look'. I presumed she would do a bit iof belly prodding but she whipped out a mini scanner and so I saw the little bean again, very unexpected. I did suddenly think I dear if its bad news I am here alone but anyway, it wasn't, nice strong heartbeat which we heard very clearly and the student doc wiped away a tear, bless her! So now I have one less thing to wibble about on Thursday, its alive now I just have to worry about NT measurements etc. She did press quite hard on my tummy is that normal?

I am so excited about the babies that will be born on this thread. scream what are you doing today, your last day before baby?

I feel like I am a proper member of this thread now and shall be posting more regularly, its harder at the beginning as I felt like a interloper!!! I think all the other new PSEPP are also lurking until 12 weeks!

pommedechocolat · 24/04/2012 08:56

Farfalla - that's the best bit about consultant apps, they often have a little look - yay! Normal to press hard.

farfallarocks · 24/04/2012 09:15

Ohh that is good to hear, so might they do it again further along? I seem to have a few consultant appointments. I always thought it must be strange after 20 weeks to have no other scans.

pommedechocolat · 24/04/2012 09:23

You will likely get proper scans every 4 weeks starting from 24 weeks - thats what I had with dd1. A scan then an app with consultant every month.

Second time round they do you less following a logic I've never quite understood!

FluffyJawsOfDoom · 24/04/2012 09:30

Yay far that's so cool! Was DH gutted to miss it? They press pretty hard with me too :)

That is so jammy, I was hoping for extra scans but they didn't seem to see the need :( Which is good, really, but, well, you know... Blush :o

farfallarocks · 24/04/2012 10:03

Thanks, well that would be lovely.

Dh was just relieved all was well and I think feels like he can 'enjoy' Thursday a bit more as that initial 'is there a heartbeat' moment will be ok (I hope, unless something goes wrong between now and thurs!). fluffy did you get your thyroid meds sorted in the end?

cakes82 · 24/04/2012 10:09

Brilliant news Far

When I get my scan at 20wks will I get any more scans after that? I'm classed as low risk and not seeing anyone except mw.

musicalmrs · 24/04/2012 10:14

Far, that's brilliant news! Yes on the pressing hard here too - they've always done so, from the early scans (where the pressure worried me!) to when the midwife has a feel around now. Glad you feel like a 'proper' member of this thread now - we need to brook for more BFPs to fill it up now lots of people are graduating!

cakes, I had a couple of early scans due to bleeding, but have been classified as low risk ever since - and I think it's standard to not get any scans after 20 weeks if that's the case. I certainly haven't. I do get to hear the HB at any midwife and consultants appointments though :) To be honest, around the 20wk mark I started feeling so much movement that I didn't need to see the baby again to know it was ok!