TTC A 2012 BABY - THE GRADUATES PART 3!

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ROLL UP, ROLL UP! STEP RIGHT THIS WAY!

The one where Trope has her baby, possibly the rest of us too!

Xposts McKayz, great minds

Can't find the page I saw before, but this has got lots of great ideas and reassurance.

I just did some skin to skin and we both got a milk bath I've got an ameda pump from nicu and a medela swing at home, not tried it yet, the midwife just suggested giving him a bottle do you think if I give him a bottle here we might be able to bf at home?

Ellie I would try what Bun suggested. Just get really comfy and put him on your chest, near your breasts and see if he will move towards them. Its called Biological Nurturing I think. Will try and google you a link.

I personally would be a bit wary of introducing a bottle but if it gets him home quicker then you could then try to establish BF at home with him.

Here you go www.biologicalnurturing.com/pages/recipe.html I hope it helps you.

Good advice ladies, good luck ellie!
DH does nappies whenever he's home and has never complained about feeding or asked to bottle feed, we always planned to use expressed milk so that I can go out, not as a bonding thing for him but it was a really unfortunate side effect that he was then Fyfe wouldn't take it from him. I was only trying it to introduce the bottle. I have tried again today and he's been pushing the teat around in his mouth instead of sucking but still gets a tiny bit of milk which he has swallowed, I think we'll get there and I am so relieved he doesn't much like it!

Oh yes, I have an avent Isis IQ UNO from freecycle. Works fine for occasional use like mine, you'd want something more serious for exclusive expressing for example.

Hooray! DH just settled Fyfe by singing to him and I had my dinner without holding him and...wait for it...went to the loo - by myself! I think we're being a bit slow to catch up with Fyfe's development, he needs to be entertained nowadays! anyway, smiles all round tonight!

Trouble what is the owl?? Please can I have a clue.

The owl is reading a book because he is ....?

Wise?
I think Jacob won't latch cos my nipple is flat, today he sucked a finger like a goodun, took milk from a syringe and roots really well, he just can't seem to work out where my nipple is

Evening all - just a quick update to say we finally got my laptop working again so I have put some photos of Odie up on my profile! (and DP looking rather hot in his theatre scrubs... even though they were about 4 sizes too big for him!)

ellie Odie sometimes seems to randomly forget how to latch, but it's nearly always actually that I've not quite got the position right. Is there anyone supportive at the hospital/a good friend with breastfeeding experience who can come in and sit with you and help with your positioning? At the hospital I was at there was a local breastfeeding support group who sent volunteers into the post natal ward to support the new mums - have you tried asking the midwives if something similar happens where you are?
The difference a tiny change in angle can make is astonishing to me - from frenzied fussing and nipple sucking/nuzzling, to strong comfy latch and feed all because I moved his tummy down and to the side a bit!

Wow trope! Odie is gorgeous! He is distinctly un-fuzzy looking, that smooth hair and amazing complexion! Well done you and Rob DP!
ellie totally agree with trope, the adjustment needed is often so slight, also, I had 3 midwives say the (sore) latch was perfect before I got NCT councillor out who 'fixed' it. They are free and you do not have to be a member of (or ever had anything to do with) the NCT.

Oh bun, I told DH your thing about the fourth trimester which seemed to help him, thanks!

I can't see Fuzzy pictures.

Trouble I ended up taking a screenshot of the owl to send to my Mum who said wise. It was so bloody obvious once she said it.

I am exhausted. Really awful sleep last night. Got to go to Doctors soon to try and get something else to use to get rid of heartburn.

Odie is GORGEOUS! What a looker :o

Sorry for slowness in my Draw Something at the moment. Just can't do it at work and our evenings have been so busy lately. More of the same this weekend but hopefully i'll have some time to return a few pictures :)

Fools has been quiet for a day, I wonder if this means anything.....

Our pram is being delivered tomorrow :)

Odie is amazingly adorable! Love the photo of the 3 of you. Trope, are you always happy? Don't know how you do it!

4th trimester? What did I miss?

Haha! X post Mamma. Sorry but no news from me. Don't think it'll be long, but certainly nothing yet. Was quiet yesterday as was embarrassingly emotional. Cried to Balamory because ds was at my mum's so was missing it. Then continued to sob for 2 hrs before giving up and going to fetch him. I always miss him when he's there, but not like that. 'd'h has been laughing at me which sets me off again. I fear I may never be able to hear pc plum'a song again without snivelling.

I've got some really quite strong braxton hicks today. Blooming annoying.

fools come join the emotional club!! Jacob latched on and licked and bit and did a swallow so I'm feeling much happier today, he prob doesn't need to suck as the milk pours out when I look at him!! Hope everyone is well, it's very time consuming doing nappy change, breast, tube feed, express every 3 hours!! Almost glad to be in hosp!!
Daisy signing out (mooo)

Bloody hell - lots to catch up on again! This real life with 2 kids malarky is hard! And I haven't even been on Draw for a few days so apologies to those waiting. I'll try to catch up today. And no sooner do I make an attempt to catch up when everyone decides they need me Oh well - best get used to that I suppose

Sorry you've been having a hard time Bun Really great news about your DS at pre-school! And very at him being potty trained too - I think we're going to leave it until the weather is a but nicer and he can run around naked in the garden so I don't have too much extra cleaning to do I agree with ghost in you being a hero for managing to express for so long - that is really great when you've just got the baby to cope with, let alone with a 3 year old as well.
I'm really feeling the '4th Trimester'! I've not heard of that before, and DS was such a Daddy's boy from day 1, I'm not used to this much clinginess! Although after the last 24 hours with DS, it seems he's going through it now, as well (2 years late!)

fools - I like your one stop restaurant, bed & security blanket comment. That's just how I'm feeling! And I love that your DS was a Marilyn Manson fan

DS used to have 6oz bottles when he went to crèche at about 6 months, Trouble. He didn't always drink it all, but did more often than not - a big appetite runs in both sides of the family here And to make it awkward he had one bottle about 4-5 weeks I think and then none til he was about 4 months. We were lucky and had no issues with him taking a bottle, but using the shields may have helped the transition. I think it's a case of trying to find what suits you and your baby So sorry your first attempt was a bit of a disaster

Great birth plan McKayz. If we ever crazily decide to have another baby, I don't think I'll bother writing another. I've not actually looked at either birth plans during labour, but it was useful for DH knowing what I wanted etc.

Ok now I'm starting to get a bit freaked out - too many coincidences here! Bun and Mamma - my mums side of the family come from Wales and now live in Maidenhead!

ellie I've heard Kangaroo care is great for getting babies to bf too. I don't think id want to introduce a bottle this early either, but I've also heard stores if mums successfully transferring babies from bottle to breast by having lots of skin to skin as well. Although maybe you should get into the bath next time It's a good sign that you are getting lots of milk though so keep trying Oh just seen you managed a latch - fab! I have a similar nipple problem in the early days of bf I found a bit of a tweak before attempting the latch helps. And it does become less of a problem as bf gets established (mainly because they are being used so much I think, so they stay a bit pointy!)

Oh trope - how gorgeous is fuzzy! He is such a cutie And he looks like a lovely mix of you both as well

So off to try for a snooze now - am knackered!

Morning all! Update from the Western front coming at the end. First, let's see about the important bits.

Bun how are you feeling? Well done to ds for the potty training and nursery report (not sure I actually said that at the time). You really are doing an amazing job and I hope that doctor visit is either not required or helps you feel better very soon.

Trouble, how was your anniversary? Really hope you got your meal out and Fyfe was happy at home.

Davina, is it really that hard? Ds is a mummy's boy and you're worrying me how thinly I'll be stretched if this one is too. Hope you got some rest!

Quick update, I had a bit of a feeling about today being the day. Bump has dropped and is noticeably smaller and I have been at the mercy of hormones and emotions for 48 hours. The tears, followed by very intolerant fools. Told some idiot mother off quite badly at ds's club yesterday because her son hurt him in a bid to get some attention from anybody. I'm not a fan of confrontations but was not going to sit back and let my child cry without any.... oh, I've forgotten the word.

Did anyone notice seriously reduced movements once engaged? She's still fidgeting but not as she was.

Oooh, FX fools! it's our anniversary on the 29th, we were just testing with the bottle to see..anyway, we shan't be going out for dinner but that's fine, we'll still have our night away with Fyfe!
I have the PIL staying this weekend. DH was telling them 'people call this the fourth trimester' bless.

Sorry fools - I didn't mean to scare anyone It is hard when you've got both of them crying at once and no-one around to help out It's just really hard leaving one to cry whilst trying to comfort the other I know I'm probably just being a wuss, as lots of single parents cope just fine. DS is still playing up a bit but DH is back at work on Thursday, so hopefully getting back to his routine will help out with that. But on the other hand, maybe I'm being a bit hard on myself as its a period of adjustment for all of us and maybe I should stop trying to be everything to everyone I'm sure you'll be fine (although any hints and tips from those that already have 2 would be greatly appreciated!)

Ps I forgot to say fingers crossed for you today

All my fingers crossed for you fools.

Pram arrived this afternoon and we've put it together. In love