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We're BROOKING NO ARGUMENT for easy and blooming pregnancies and pain free sneeze births (part 9)

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scarletfingernail · 23/03/2012 15:59

Here we go again.......

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scarletfingernail · 31/03/2012 23:02

Ouch Scream that doesn't sound pleasant. I think if they were contractions you'd know for sure by now? But I suppose it is possible they could start and then stop again.

I'm in pain this evening too. But purely because I've been greedy and eaten too much curry, too late. We didn't eat until after 9pm so now I'm sitting bolt upright willing it to go down so I can go to bed. It feels like it's firmly wedged in my chest at the moment and I'm feeling quite sick.

Too you and your DH bickering sounds entirely normal. Lack of sleep added with the worry of everything that comes with a newborn makes things very fractious once the initial high has worn off.

I really don't want to be worrying about that yet. Although it's not like I ever did anything about it last time Blush

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hawthers · 01/04/2012 00:12

too we had masses if difficulty in getting f to settle in his basket but added a fleecy blanket for him to lie on, hit water bottle to warm it up before putting him in and he seemed to responfd to those changes. We swaddled him as well I the early weeks and that made a massive difference - have you tried that?

Ultimately I think it us just perseverance. We just kept on at it and at some point it has got a whole lot better. I even put him down wide awake and he popped himself off to sleep. We did the rocking, patting, shushing etc thing with DS1 and not sure what we've done differently.

Think I probably would gave made good in roads to the weight loss if I hadn't been rather greedy wrt biscuits and cake. Have turned over a new leaf today..... Hmm wonder if I'll find some willpower from somewhere

pommedechocolat · 01/04/2012 09:07

Oh my god. Horrendous night and horrible morning so far despite toddler sleeping till 6.20 and being sweet.

The feeding the feeding the feeding. Urgh. If it wasn't for my desire to prove mil and dm wrong I might consider a bottle today to be honest!

Biscuitsandtea · 01/04/2012 09:15

Remember ladies - 'This too shall pass'.....

Hugs all available brookers for their various aches, pains, sleepless nights etc

Are your DM and MIL not wanting you to bf Pomme? You're doing awesomely though xx

pommedechocolat · 01/04/2012 09:22

Pregnant ladies I do promise it is still better than last few weeks of pg!

biscuits - dm doesn't really believe you can do it without formula (she had a go at bf with me and gave up two weeks in) and gets antsy about me bf in public. She does keep telling me that's is amazing I've got this far and agrees night feeds must be easier. Mil never did one bf and I think believes bf past the first few days is odd and strange.i think she also thinks she should be given a 'turn' at feeding. Ho hum!

DreamingOfPeace · 01/04/2012 09:25

Stick at it pomme!!! Just think, when it settles down (& it will), you will be a) right above MIL and dm-well worth it in my book!- and b) sooo glad of no bottles to sort out when all you have to do is stick her on the boob!!

scream, I have been hopeful about 'contractions' a few times and then realized like you babies are moving and its them engaging or whatever. Babies tend to go quiet with contractions, and they definitely feel tight!!! You have the lovely IMW to fall back on for proper advice though!!

DD got a cold. Took til 9 pm to settle her, then up 5 times in the night. Getting worried about how exhausted I feel going into the newborn phase, with two to feed as well....

DreamingOfPeace · 01/04/2012 09:27

Oooh, pomme, you must prove MIL wrong!!!! After all, how did babies survive before ff then?!? Of course its possible to bf, and I loved being the only one who could feed DD except at 3am

jaggythistle · 01/04/2012 09:47

hehe at 'except at 3am!' dream

It will pass, honest pomme. You are doing great. :) My Mum bf me to about 8 months (considered a bit mad in late 70s) but has chilled out a lot after seeing that DS turned out ok despite being fed lots and not given solids at 3 months like me! I am expecting PIL to come out with all the 'are you sure it's normal to feed that much' gubbins again, I'm a bit more confident myself this time though.

After hearing about it on here I read about the 'history' of bf and ff in 'The Politics of Breastfeeding' (twas quite fascinating, but I am a geek and love to read!) - it's surprising anyone still bfs after the efforts that doctors who invented formula and then later milk manufacturers made to convince people their milk wasn't good enough etc etc. It will take a long time for the general population to 'believe' in bf again - especially with the poor support so people struggle and get rubbish advice:(

Aw hope DD's cold doesn't last long dream, DS's last one was just a 2 night one and his temp was back to normal with less snotters.

It's my last day, woo hoo! Really glad as my hips hurt so much last night that I tried to turn over from side to side lots and my achy fanjo is back and feels like it might just fall out soon.

Still getting a few pains and tightenings here too, I remember them getting more frequent on mat leave last time - I would spend a few hours getting all excited then they'd go away for a few days! Grin

Munx2 · 01/04/2012 10:58

Morning

Many thanks for the lovely welcome back, much appreciated.

Those first newborn weeks are lovely but so hard too, good luck to all the Brookers going through them. DD was a real handful at first and always slept on me, I ended up sleeping on the sofa for a few weeks.

Luckily (touching wood) she is a good sleeper now, but I think she has figured out something is different with mummy so is being a bit more clingy. Uh oh as she would say.

dream your bump is very impressive indeed, I do hope you and the other imminent Mums are doing OK and any discomfort is not too unbearable.

Lots of excitement on the Rat Smacking thread at the moment Grin.

Anyway we are away for ten days so looking forward to the new babies upon my return, apologies for lack of name checking trying to post quickly during nap time...should be packing.

See you soon!

Munx2 · 01/04/2012 11:01

Oh and I second the grr-ing at people trying to butt in regarding your feeding, you keep going Pomme it is your decision not anybody else's.

I had to stop Feeding DD at six weeks and also stop expressing at about ten due to DD's medical issues which were diagnosed too late to carry on feeding myself.

I am hoping this time to feed for as long as DC2 wants me to.

TooImmatureTurtleDoves · 01/04/2012 11:32

Oooh, forgot to say hello to Munx! Hello Munx, come on in and grab your sparkly vom bucket. Have a lovely trip away - where are you going?

Jaggy, hurray for your last day! I found my aches and pains got magically better once I didn't have to go to work and sit at a desk. I hope yours do too, even with a toddler in the mix.

People can be so weird about bf. I don't understand it. A friend told me that when she bf, some of her mates actually said they found it creepy because boobs were sexual objects (that's not how they put it, but that's what they meant). Wtaf? My boobs can multi-task, thank you very much. For women to think that means there's something very wrong with our society. I am very lucky that DM, MIL, stepmum and my grandmothers bf (well, one grandmother bf for a couple of months against the advice in the 60s and gave up in the end, but the other fed 5 babies herself) so I don't have any peer pressure to contend with.

Pomme, you can do it, yes you can! You're about 5 weeks in, aren't you? It's great that you got that far - you did it and you can keep on doing it! And it is great being able to calm a crying baby instantly. The only times Maia really cries are when her nappy gets changed or when I can't respond to her immediately, like when we're in the car or when I lie in bed hoping that if I ignore her grunts and huffles she'll go back to sleep. And think about the money you'll save if you don't buy formula. And you won't have to get out of bed at 3 am to make up bottles and make sure they're the right temperature and so on. Are your nipples sore? Mine start to feel bruised after the marathon feeds - not raw like they were in the first week from a bad latch, but just a bit overused, I think. Lansinoh helps a bit, and a warm bath if you have time. Thanks for you, and a big Brew to keep your eyes open. Ignore people who want a turn feeding - no one else deserves a shot of your baby! She's not a possession to be shared, she's a little person who needs her mother.

Dream, Brooking for your DD's cold to vanish very swiftly and for you to get some sleep.

Hawthers, have put a blanket in the Moses basket for Maia to lie on, but haven't done the hot water bottle thing yet. Will hunt out my hot water bottle and give it a try. Swaddling is one of those things that the hospital encouraged but then the community MW said not to do as it caused cot death Confused. She said to swaddle from under the arms, although she did say that if Maia was agitated and waving around while feeding, to swaddle her properly then, while I was awake and watching her, but not when I was planning on sleeping myself. She was better last night and mostly went to sleep reasonably well when I put her down, but she didn't sleep for longer than an hour, hour and a half max, and sometimes for only 45 minutes. She also peed up her back and had to have a full clothes change at 5 in the morning.

Scarlet, ouch at the curry! No cx sparked off, I hope?

Scream, those sound suspiciously like cx to me, if they hurt! Still, I had cx for days before going into proper labour and still had to have syntocin to speed things up when I stalled at 4cm. If it sent your sciatica crazy then I imagine BabyScream must have been descending further. It will be interesting to hear what your consultant thinks about it. Do you have an appt tomorrow or is it Wed? I'm confused now.

Question: people keep telling me that as Bean suckles, I'll be able to feel my uterus contracting. What does that feel like? Is it sore? I haven't felt anything definite so far that I could say yes, that's my womb contracting.

jaggythistle · 01/04/2012 11:44

ok TMI too but I do vaguely remember some wee pains/tightenings at first when DS fed and erm, mostly I could feel i was bleeding a bit more at the same time. (a slight gush - eew, sorry) It wasn't really really noticeable tbh.

I think it is meant to be sore the second time bfing so looking forward to that!

pommedechocolat · 01/04/2012 12:05

For me the after pains have been ok second time round - not much worse than first time round. It was only for the first week really. Period like cramps and gushes of blood like jaggy says.

I will stand strong on the bf guys! I really want to - like munx says after feeling like I failed dc1 with it am ultra determined with dc2. Dh needs a talking to as well as he announced he thought leaking was gross this am Angry

hawthers · 01/04/2012 14:03

Right pomme your DH and mil can sod off. You are doing so well and if you want to continue bf and its working well for you and mini p then hold firm. Don't be pressurised by others into hoof against eat you feel is right.

too afterpains felt like mild period pain and was accompanied by a gush (delightful). I've never heard swaddling was connected with cot death and my mw recommended it. Wonder which is right - anyone know?

hawthers · 01/04/2012 14:03

Hot water bottle was key imo though

Biscuitsandtea · 01/04/2012 14:31

We were told by the community mw to swaddle with the arms out too Too and Hawthers - the mw said if they are swaddled with the arms in they could in theory roll over and not be able to get back, so I guess it would be more that they might end up sleeping on their front from what she said?

Not 100% sure though Confused

ScreamIfYouWantToGoFaster · 01/04/2012 19:27

As a clueless newbie I can't add to the various bfing stories, but thanks to everyone for sharing - I feel as though I've learnt more than any newbie could ever expect to know about bfing in advance! Wishing lots of luck to mamas struggling with high demand though, especially Pomme!

I just wrote a mammoth post of sheer frustration, and it was so ridiculously long I've just deleted it because I couldn't inflict on you all! The short version is: the mw I saw on Thurs now has mumps (not my usual imw). I'm frustrated because I don't think I've had it and it takes 1-2 weeks for symptoms to show so no symptoms so far doesn't mean anything. If I have it they would probably deliver the baby early (it's not dangerous for the baby apart from the fever, so there's no worry until I develop a fever). That's not bad for the baby because I'm practically full term, however that would leave me sick from mumps whilst trying to recover from a csection and who knows if they'd even let me near my newborn baby while I'm infectious!?! Mumps lasts 7 - 10 days as well! Nightmare!

I don't know if I have it of course, but I'm really gutted at the thought of potentially catching it! I'm really annoyed that a mw of all people hasn't been vaccinated!!! I'm going into hospital tomorrow for my super important scan, so I'm thinking of requesting a blood test while I'm there. Not much else I can do?!

TooImmatureTurtleDoves · 01/04/2012 20:05

Scream, haven't you had the MMR? Or other mumps vaccine? It really sucks that you have to worry about mumps as well at this point. I think you should ask about a blood test to set your mind at rest. Can you be vaccinated now? Brooking for tomorrow's scan! Move, wretched fibroids!

Thanks Jaggy, Hawthers and Pomme - I think I have had that, then - I've definitely had the gushing during/after big feeding sessions. No pain, though. Thank you - I wondered if there was something wrong with me!

ScreamIfYouWantToGoFaster · 01/04/2012 20:26

Too I spoke to my Mum and apparently the MMR came in after I was too old, and she doesn't remember me ever catching mumps naturally. You can't have the vaccination when you're pregnant, but if I've already caught it it would be too late anyway. I'll have the blood test tomorrow of course, but that will just give me a couple of days' headstart before the symptoms kick in, it won't change anything. So gutted!

pommedechocolat · 01/04/2012 20:28

scream - are you sure you haven't been vaccinated or had it?

Dd2 feeding hourly minimum. How I am going to look after dd1 as well on my own tomorrow I have no idea! Cbeebies will be my best friend and i will let her play on the ipad and with the dvd player opening mechanism for hours .Dh has apologised though and we are friends again.

pommedechocolat · 01/04/2012 20:38

Oh no! Well at least it isn't harmful to the baby. Your dh may need to be very prepared to be superman though. You'll get through it amazingly though I predict! Smile

scarletfingernail · 01/04/2012 20:43

Oh Scream that sucks. I think I'm a year or 2 older than you and I definitely didn't get vaccinated, I can remember the vaccine being brought out and not having to worry about not being vaccinated as I'd already had measles, mumps and german measles as a child. I think you'd be right to request the blood test, at least you can plan to bring your section date forward then if necessary. I'm so glad that they told you, they could have not fessed up and let you think you'd picked it up somewhere else if you do come down with it.

I hope tomorrow goes well for you pomme. Nothing wrong with CBeebies when you're struggling. I have to confess that is what is worrying me the most about BFing this time, having DS to look after at the same time. I suppose one of the benefits of formula is that it is a lot quicker to feed and you also get a bit more time for DC1 in between feeds. I'm so impressed you're all keeping it up and perservering through these early challenges, I hope I manage to do the same.

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NinjaChipmunk · 01/04/2012 21:57

evening all, just a quick one from me.
pomme you are doing brilliantly. Do what YOU feel is right not what your dm/ dmil etc think.
scream that's rough, hope your blood test comes back with the news you want.
I'm super tired after a long but very nice weekend. Baby is squirming all over the place and ds gets so excited when he feels it move. He has decided we should call her shrimp. I may adopt it as a nickname for her Smile
Been v achy the last few days, am 27 and half weeks. I;m guessing its a growth spurt and my ligaments need to catch up? I hope so. Right, off for an early night I think. Night all x

DreamingOfPeace · 01/04/2012 22:07

scream, I'm 28, think you are too? And though there was some query I am vaccinated. I'm almost sure... :-) I had one MMR jab at uni, definitely. Hopefully you won't get it anyway- is it spread airborne or touch? She should have been hand cleansing if touch so better?? My friend took her three and one year.olds to a chicken pox party recently. She said they even shared beakers with the two boys with the pox. Neither of her children have caught it and they're well out of the 21 day incubation period now, so there's still hope!! I will hope for you, and yes, MOVE pesky fibroids. Hope you get CS date tomorrow.

Can't remember rest. Battled for two.hours to get DD to bed. Oh god, imagine this with 3!!!!!

ScreamIfYouWantToGoFaster · 01/04/2012 22:34

Hi Dream, sorry to hear about your bedtime battle. I'm No Brooking that life with three will be much simpler than you expect! It's hard to imagine right now, because life will just be so different, but I'm convinced it will be different in a good way!

I'm also 28. My Mum says my younger siblings had the MMR at school, but I missed it because of my age, perhaps I was still at school but in too high a year group by then? I definitely didn't get offered it at uni. I'll just get the blood test tomorrow and keep my fingers crossed. Mumps is spread by coughing/sneezing and the mw was definitely coughing during my appt, but it wasn't violent scary coughing or anything obviously worrying. She thought she was just getting over a cold she'd had earlier in the week, she didn't think it was anything serious.

Any No Brooking for my scan tomorrow would be gratefully received! My consultant appt isn't until Wed, but it will be tomorrow's scan results that she assesses on Wednesday! Not sure how long the blood test results will take, so I'm not sure if I'll know by the Wed appt what my mumps status is.

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