We will have a serene, pain free, uneventful pregnancy and birth and will BROOK NO ARGUMENT on that.

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Found you!!! Doh, didn't realise why old thread quiet for ages....

Not much time to post, too tired!

But scream that mattress looks fine to me. I am obsessed with keen on pocket sprung as you tend to lay them on the same part of the mattress each night, but that is ott I think for the weight of a baby, and the springi is probably as good as you could need!! I will be waiting and keeping an eye out for the ventiflow- just as i know I like it, and from watching a baby monitor go up and down on Amazon I hope it'll go down again at some point and from our space issues, the boys'll be in them til they're about 10 .

musical my friend also with third degree tear raved about the tena pads, she loved them! Plus the knicker ones, which I've heard recommended for after CS as no edge of pad to rub on wound.

Don't go hawthers, so good to read your updates. Must be such an upheaval for ds1, and not getting picked up... I know if i physically can in any way I'll lift dd... I also know i shouldn't....

Dh scratched new car today, all down passenger side, we've had it a week today. I'm so relieved it wasn't me!!!!!!!!!

too had to do 24 hour wee collections when I was pg as well. Several times in fact including the last one st 39 weeks pregnant when I wad the size of a house

Oh yes, Hawthers, lovely to hear from you - don't go anywhere please!

It must be hard with DS1 though - it's such a lot for them to get used to but I'm sure your lovely boy will be back soon.

And Dream - ouch re the car! There seems to be something about only having a car for a week or so and doing something to it - I've done it at least twice, if not 3 times when we've only had a car for short while. And I know what you mean - I always feel happier when DH has done something like that first

Not sure if I am really ready to make the leap, but discovered I am pregnant yesterday.........eek.

I have had two mc and I have a DD. Am very very nervous and, well quite frankly, terrified.

Brook for a sticky one for me please!!

We're on it Munx - have everything crossed that this is the stickiest of sticky beans.

And congratulations

How many weeks do you think you are? Do you think you might get an early scan? Am I bombarding you with too many questions?

Yay Munx ! Lots of brooking for a sticky one commences IMMEDIATELY.

Thanks for the reassurance on the non leaky boobs Purple - I was about to post a whine about no leaks here! Hope infection clears up soon.

Dream - with you on the picking up thing. I could never say no to dd arms outstretched asking for a 'cuggle'!

I was so worried my crusty comment had somehow scared you all away took me till this morning to figure out we'd filled another thread! Duh.

Congrats Mumx :) :)

Oh no scratched car!! I hope it isn't too bad?

Still not feeling infectiony, was up more in the night but then I have increased my water uptake to help flush things through. Must have caught it very early, although blood in it sounds bad! I did have a mini heart attack when she said there was protein and then I had my bp taken straight after so I was a bit oh no it is going to be elevated after that! Luckily twas ok. Oh and I don't have leaky boobs, but I did for the first couple of months once I had the baby.

Wants I hope your innards settle down, these things are very common in pregnancy so would have thought you might be more inclined with your IBS? Anyway I hope it clears up!

Munx Congratulations! I have had DD, then two MCs and now I am 32 weeks. So don't lose hope, this might be it for you. The fear doesn't go I have found, but we are all here to brook for you that this time it will be fine!

Good morning and congratulations munx- my brooking has been turned up a notch!

Had a truly terrible night with dd here. She woke up about half two and came in bed with me while dh recamped to the sofa. Normally that works fine (not that we have to do it very often) but she was awake about every half an hour just chatting or crying and she had brought a bloody rabbit toy with a BELL in it with her. I was contemplating sone pretty vicious surgery on that rabbit at one p

Pressed post to soon- was meant to be point!

Anyway off to toddler group soon and then early nights all round tonight I think.

Hope your dd is feeling better, dream and am v impressed with your ds's dry nights biscuits!

Have been pondering my c-section hospital bag list and will post later hopefully.

morning! Lovely to see you munx and we're brooking for this one to stick firmly. Am at work so just a quick one from me till lunchtime..

Munx, congratulations! So pleased to see you here. Pull up a cushion!

Sorry about your horrendous night fishcake. I think I'd have more than contemplated surgery on that rabbit...

Little, brooking no argument that your spotting disappears soon. It sounds like you're remaining a lot calmer than I did when I experienced it...

Purple, hope the infection clears up soon. When are you being retested by the MW (if you are?). Definitely all go here re new house! Not relishing the thought of moving house when being heavily pregnant/new LO, but at the same time, there's no guarantee it will happen just yet. It's just good to know if we find the right place we can jump on in. I have been told it's easier moving house with a babe in arms than a toddler...

Wants, hope the pain's subsided now?

Dream, eek for scratch on new car, but at least it wasn't you! I actually find there's a sense of relief after the first scratch - then subsequent ones don't matter so much! Glad I'm not the only one that's heard about tena pads - it was mainly the knicker variety I'd been advised about! Might have to do some investigation. I'm mainly worried about leakage and the lack of wings on lots of maternity pads, so secure tena knickers are sounding very tempting..!

On the leaking discussion, I also have no leaky nips (also a tad jealous Too!) - though they are a bit crusty? (TMI, sorry!). Could that be colostrum?

Almost fainted on the train this morning, which wasn't fun. LO has been kicking lots to reassure me that, despite my struggle to remain conscious, they're perfectly fine!

Oh, and a question for the anterior placenta brigade! I'm feeling plenty of movement and kicks (23 weeks now), so not worried on that front. However, DH hasn't managed to feel anything yet, which is quite :( . Any tips?

Lovely to see you over here Munx, sending lots of sticky vibes in your direction

Musical I'm only a week behind you and I'm still not feeling any movements let alone DH being able to feel any. I've decided it's because I'm such a fat bloater that all my blubber is hiding it like a massive shock absorber.

Musical, DH has still only felt about 3 kicks despite Bean jumping so much because she just won't cooperate when he's touching me. Yesterday morning he watched my tummy move, though. I don't remember my tummy moving last time with the anterior placenta, so maybe that's what's muffling yours, Jen.

Munx, congratulations and come on in!

at surgery on the rabbit, Fishcake.

Hawthers, the wee collection was the month before I got my BFP, so at least I wasn't doing it pg. They were testing my kidney function after my kidneys started shutting down during labour - luckily, all fine!

Purple, glad you still feel normal - when you have to think about how much you're peeing it always seems like heaps!

Dream, I would be horribly smug if it was DH who had scratched the car...

Ow, today is not going well. I have a meeting to discuss my complaint into our care during DD1's birth at 2...11 months after the fact, which was meant to happen on the 29th of Dec but they phoned me on the afternoon of the 23rd (ie, their last working day before the appt) to postpone it. I am trying not to work myself up about it - basically my main problem is that the Triage MW wrote in my notes that she had monitored DD1 and entered a hb reading AFTER she had died. And the consultant told us we had received 'sub-optimal' care, which later turned out to be fairly standard care (we got a second opinion from Aberdeen which said they would have done the same thing). In addition, I have crippled myself hoovering yesterday - my pelvis is aching and I can barely walk, and this morning I poured boiling water over my hand making a cup of tea.

Need to rant.

Ordered pram from site with next day delivery which should have been delivered Monday last week. Deliberately timed order to coincide with me being home as working part time. When the delivery didn't turn up I contacted the company who said that they hadn't sent it out yet and would deliver Weds. I told them that this was no good as nobody would be home and I had purposely ordered when I did so that somebody would. Asked them to deliver to different address where I knew somebody would be home and they said no, had to be the one I ordered with so rearranged delivery for today.

I've just had a call from the courier to say that he is outside but nobody is home. I told him he must be in the wrong place as I am home and he read back the alternative address to me and said he was there. Luckily a neighbour was home that I know who could take it in but so pissed off that after telling me they could only send to the original address, I stayed in waiting and they sent to the other one. If they had said that they could change the address then I would have said to deliver on Weds rather than today and staying in waiting for it!! Now my pram is 30 miles away and I can't get it until Weds when I am down there for work and I want to play with it now!

Congratulations Munx I'm brooking lots for you. Have you worked out your due date yet?

Too I hope you feel a bit less stressed after your feelings have been acknowledged at the meeting. You've had such an awful year . Are you having the baby at the same hospital?

jen I'd be ranting too I'd also probably drive the 30 miles today to collect it today as I wouldn't be able to wait . But I'm very impatient.

It might be worth getting your blood pressure checked Musical. Low blood pressure in my case explained why I kept having fainting and dizzy spells. If you know what's causing it you can maybe me manage it. I'm very on the ball now making sure I eat and drink regularly.

dream I'm so relieved that it wasn't you who scratched the car. My DH scraped mine recently and I admit that I did have a bit of a snigger about it to myself while he was beating himself up about it, as I could just imagine his reaction had it have been me.

I'm with Ninja and Biscuits and have also had a whole weekend with DS on my own. I felt guilty that it was such a relief to pack him off to playgroup this morning.

I hope you have a better night with DD tonight Fishcake.

I just cannot get warm today at all. I'm all layered up with the heating on full blast. I'm so desperate to get warm I might even have to do some ironing

I was going to go down and get it Scarlet but the neighbour was just on her way to work so was lucky to be in at all.

Too - Good luck. Hope it all goes well, be really, really kind to yourself over the next few days (that probably includes avoid pouring boiling water over your hand to be honest...).

I have what (all being well) is likely to be my last ever scan tomorrow. As throughout my two pregnancies I've had 15 scans so far it feels quite a memorable thing! I also had some really uncomfortable moments on Sunday am and I'm wondering if it was her moving to the proper position. I'm hoping it was anyway!

Oooh that is a memorable thing pomme. Brooking that your LO is getting in the right position. Very exciting!

Munx! so good to see you here, congratulations. I totally understand that you're feeling terrified, but I hope we can help in any way we can xx

Too, I hope the outcome of the meeting has a positive outcome, one that you feel satisfied with.

Well the spotting has increased a bit and it was red this morning, though as become brown again. I'm freaking out a bit, but the mw knows and doesn't seem concerned. I've finally got my scan appointment, but it's not til the 31st Jan. After ringing dp at work, we've decided to get a private scan done asap for reassurance. I'm just waiting for a call back from a place in our town who does them.

Too will be offering you a virtual hand to hold at 2pm.

Little its good to hear that your mw isn't worried. I hope you can get a private appointment quickly though.

Musical hope you are feeling better now. Perhaps you could loudly annouce you feel like you might vomit if you don't sit down if it happens again!

Wow pomme, I guess that means you really don't have long to go now!

Re movement- I apparently have a high anterior placenta and have only really started feeling lots of movement in the last three weeks or (am about 26 weeks I think, lost count ). I still don't feel much at the front but do feel quite a bit at the sides and also get some lovely cervix stomping!

We have had a slow day here. Luckily I made a cake yesterday, so that is helping me along! Off out for a walk soon as I think the fresh air will do us both good. Then I have hoovering to do before an estate agent comes round as it looks like our mega-move really is on. (Too I find hoovering is really hard on my back too, and sometimes gives me heartburn. It's rubbish.)

Hope you get your pram soon Jen!

munx huge congratulations, you may as well settle in here, you'll be here a while, we're brooking no argument about it.

So biggest success at bedtime last night in ages- dd asleep by 8:10pm! She's got cough/ cold symptoms but was cheerful yesterday, but clearly not on best form as she fell asleep in the car at 11am (she'd never normally do that, even after her awful night on Thursday, she didn't fall asleep on a 30 min drive home after Baby Signing 11:30-12 in-car time) but now I'm wondering if its All My Fault re: the Bedtime Battle and if she naps 1-3 ish, if that's a big part of why 7 ish bedtime has gone so wrong??? I only put her nap back as I started totally failing to get her to sleep 11:30 ish, then found if she went at 12 or just after, it made lunch 2pm or later and messed up the rest of the day... But going to sleep too late in the evening has her bags under eyes, zombie child the next day?? Any thoughts? I'll feel so awful if I have indeed been Doing It Wrong...(but it may be quite likely). And now I've had a think, I stopped bf at 16 weeks pg as it got too sore, so 10 weeks ago. Right on target for all this continuing illness... Oh the GUILT!!!! It's possibly my fault she's not sleeping AND ill!!!!!

However, good bedtime did not mean good night sleep... up 2-4:30am with her- she woke up coughing and wheezy and bunged up and upset- but then woke up properly and was wide awake, WIDE awake, and I just couldn't get her back to sleep... I, like fishcake I'm sure, just don't feel right today. Twin 1 is quiet too, just to freak me out a bit. Sitting eating chocolate and still not felt him- but of course he may be hiding again . Here's to a better night tonight fishcake and the rabbit with bell did make me chuckle!

little, such a worrying time, but like the mw who wasn't concerned, it'll all be fine! We will be brooking no argument aabout this. Hope your private scan is asap, good luck getting it today!!

too, good luck for today. If it helps, let us know how it goes. You sound like you're doing amazingly well, it must be hard to not have the complaint over DD1 care sorted while being heavily pg with DD2...

I'm tired, so going to give up on the choclate and waiting for movements and have a lie down before DD wakes up (napping in her cot for the first time in a week!!!! probably as so tired after her night antics...)

Oh, and I checked out the car today (made a point of 'oh, no big deal, doesn't matter' to dh yesterday and specifically didn't go and look) - genuinely slightly disappointed there's a good chance it'll polish out, I think, I didn't think it eas as bad as he described. Maybe it won't. here's hoping!! Much more relaxing driving a scratched car I find . Though my mini was in perfect nick, anything bigger is a scratch magnet for me...

musical, was defintiely later with DD when DH could feel movements- placenta cushioned it too much for him, plus he has no patience