Twins Club 3!! All welcome :-)

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Hello to everyone expecting twins!
Join us here for some mutual reassurance

MrsStevo, #1 & 2, EDD 23/08/2011, Lincs, MCDA ID,
Tiggersreturn #2+3 EDD 26/09/11 NW London DCDA - not finding out
silverangel #1+2 Sophie, 3lb3 & Alice3lb1 born at 31+2 on 01/08/11 EMCS
PrincessScrumpy #2 & 3, girls
BB3, #2&3 (#1 DS) DCDA girls born 20.09.11 by EMCS at 37 weeks exactly - Edith-May 5lb 11.5oz and Ayse-Rose 6lb 1oz.

PeelingmyselfofftheCeiling #1+2 EDD, DCDA, Boy and Girl, Born 14 Sept
Twinnerves, DCDA, #2&3, girls Francesca and Isabella, born 18/11/11 EMCS 6lbs 6 oz and 6lbs 9.5oz
xkatyx , ID girls, DC 8,5,9months, EDD 21/12/11
Quempin #1&2 EDD 27/1/12, ID surprise
Ravenlocks DCDA, #1&2, EDD 28/01/12
Tabbycatt, DCDA, 2 boys, DC 2 & 3, EDD 30/1/12
Claireinmodena DCDA, Boy & Girl, DC 3 & 4 (!!), EDD 23/02/12
Dreamfeeder, DCDA, DC 2 & 3, EDD 12/4/12
BigBoobsAtLast, MCDA, DC 2&3 EDD
CarrieInAnotherTWOBabiTWINS DCDA DC 2&3, EDD 28/06/12
Caesnake, DCDA, DC 2&3, EDD

Thanks Katy - 4 weeks must be horrible S they are still so tiny it's bad enough with a 2 year old. There are lots of tiny babies here that make me melt - one has the exact cry of Ayse-Rose and it's waking me up with a start in the night x

Hope everyone else has had a better start to the new year x

Oh no that's heartbreaking!

Gosh the guilt you have when one is poorly is awful enough. My little girl just has a little cold and I feel like crying cause I can't be everywhere, so I really feel for you all.

Please keep us updated

Oh your poor little boy bb3. How worrying for you too. There can't be much worse than an ill 2 year old in hospital, who's scared, and little baby twins at home, presumably having to express regularly yourself and stay in hospital... I'm thinking of you and your family and hoping for him to be much better soon. Xxx

Katy, glad your little girl is much better. Colds are still not fun with a little one though- and don't they let you know it!!!

Hello tiggers, glad to hear your two are doing well! I've seen a couple of posts from you on the multiples board I think as I desperately try and plan how to look after three by reading threads on there

Twin one is doing the freak-me-out quiet thing. I couldn't sleep last night for poking my bump and trying to get him moving... No joy yet, but as its the same one who's gone quiet as last time I'm trying to bear bb3s words in mind that edie did this several times too. I don't want to get a name for myself as a nuisance at this early stage if I'm panicky over nothing, as i sincerely hope I am.

Dream when did you last feel t1 move - Edie was a nightmare always changing position and hiding but I'd still go get checked if you're worried - who cares what they think, your baby is all that counts xxx

Dream my goodness I had this practically every day with holly, intact I don't think I could ever pin point her movements!!!

Even till the say she popped out screaming I was worrying about her, but she always was snuggled under her sister and result rosie proberly felt all her kicks!!

But I dis make a nuisance of myself because like you I would be wide awake prodding constantly and would get in a panic all the time. If it puts your mind at ease go get checked and you will sleep better knowing all is well

Definitely the night before last bb3, they were both dancing around like mad things then. As T2 was last night and today. Had some central-bump type movements today that I couldn't swear were one or the other, IYKWIM. I'm hoping they were T1. I just wish he'd do a nice big kick over to my left so I know he's fine. After the last false alarm for him not moving, DH is a little disbelieving there could be anything wrong and just says, as you have, he'll just be hiding. I'm at work tomorrow, but could possibly ask re:going to the mw drop-in ans seeing if they can pick up the heartbeats. not that they ever have tried for me yet...

Bb3 that sounds awful. I hope he improves soon. we're surviving. Dt1 is teething and inconsolable for a large part of day and night. Dt2 has a nasty wheezing cough. And ds1 just had his last day of school holidays and my au pair returns from her fortnight off tom night so there is light at the end of the tunnel..... It's still easier than the 1st 6 weeks though I'm afraid. Good luck to everyone

BB3 - I'm so sorry to hear about your little boy. How's he doing today? I hope the medications are all kicking in and he's getting some rest. How worrying for you all. I'm sending all my 'get well' vibes and hoping you get some rest too.

dream - the whole movement thing is a pain in the proverbial if you ask me. My best (twin) friend mentor said she never felt either of them move that much at all - they just kicked each other. Her boys are 6 years old and adorable. Glad bedtime is slowly improving. I think everything you've been saying are good signs.

Claire - dinner sounds lovely, but yeah, toddlers and teenagers at the same time . (I love teenagers having spent a lot of my career working with them, but they are totally bananas.)

Our little trip away was lovely - ate my weight in cheese, as promised; saw a pilot whale from our car ferry; entertained DD with goats, cows and chickens and making sandcastles on a very cold and wet beach. She loved it, we're both shattered. I feel like I've grown another 5 inches, have the beginnings of what I suspect is SPD and am ruing not taking my amazing pillow with me (hotel bed wasn't brilliant...) On the plus side, DD has been demanding to go to the toilet to pee and poo when she's nappy free so who knows, I may only have two children in nappies come March...Here's hoping.

Ooh quempin isn't the big day somewhen this week?

Thanks for all your msgs about ds he's now off oxygen and managing to support himself with some help here and there (mostly when he has coughing fits). So that's a big improvement from where we were. He's skin and bones bless him and mostly just sleeping. He hates hospitals though and woke up this morning (after a relatively good night) looked around, realised he was still here and sobbed his little heart out (which of course set me off so we were both balling on the bed at 6am). He is currently laying on my lap whilst dh feeds him grapes like lord muck!

The girls came up yesterday too which was lovely, Ayse-Rose now has the cold and cough and gunky eyes and normally Ayse gets everything all at once but it clears just as quickly (unlike Edie who has had a cough for ages and had conjunctivitis in get left eye last week and right one this week!). But it was so nice to give them a squish and smother them with kisses. I'm very lucky that they are so close to mum and my sister and will stay with them happy as larry! (but also makes me a little bit sad too!)

Tigger - so glad boys are doing well. I'm dreading teething! Can't believe they are 4.5 months already - that has just flown by!

Rednelle - do glad trip went well

Dream - how is t1 today?

bb3 so glad your ds is doing better, hopefully he'll be able to come home soln. Its really tough when you have more than ond and theres only one of you. Its one of the things that bugs me about this bedrest: the last few weeks with mu older dds without the babies anc I cant give all the attention I would want fif the sake of thd twins.

tiggersreturn yay at your aupair coming back!! Hope the teething snd colds get better soon

rednellie sounds like uou had s lovely trip' and gioc news about your dc and potty training, mine were both so lazy. They had to be forced pushed a big into it!

dream dic you go see thd midwife? I still cant tell who is where which isbprobably a good thing so I dont get too stressed! I am going to ask next week though exactly how they are positioned (hoping twin1 has turned around too). And how have your nights been?

quempin you must be really clise to d-day, when is ir? Keep us posted!

My dds went their grans this week as they are still on holiday, I dont like them being away, but I thought a change of air would be good for them. They can also spend time with their cousins and be out more. I miss them, but they'll br back saturday. And I am getting a but of time with dh anc bump, which is probably our last ever chance to be on our own

Hope I havent forgottdn anyone, if I havd apologies, and take care

Oh bless him bb3, at least he's mostly off oxygen... Heartbreaking he woke up sobbing when he realized he wasn't at home though . Does it look like he'll be home tomorrow or still in?

What date is your CS quempin? Eeek, so exciting!!

Glad your trip was good rednellie . Can't wait til dd works out sandcastles!!

Think I've had a few squirms from T1. Very reassuring that everyone seems to have one who.hides or is a bit quieter. If he was consistently like this it'd be easier, its the loads of kicks to nothing or virtually nothing for days that freaks me out!! But I'm going to go with the hiding theory for now as at least one little squirm was so far left it must have been him...

Gulp tigger, I'm feeling more worried about coping now...

Oh that took so long I missed your post Claire

I see the mw next Tue and a worried about getting labelled paranoid, plus reassured think he's moving.

Taking a long time still- a good hour and the rest to get dd to sleep, but managing to be on the landing- blooming draughty- and she goes to sleep in her cot. After this, she's slept through the last two nights though, and had a lie in as its taken til nearly 9pm or 8:30 at least. So I think my persistence will win over hers!!!

Hey, sorry I haven't been keeping up very well... hope everyone is doing OK. bb3 I hope your wee boy is on the mend...

quempin/dreaming, "counting the kicks" with twin pg is a nightmare isn't it? I had my 20w scan yesterday and discovered that their feet are in about the same place, so no wonder I can't tell them apart - and yes, they were kicking against each other on the ultrasound and I couldn't feel a thing! Took ages for the sonographer to get a good view of the heart both times.

I'm currently just very, very relieved to have that scan out of the way... found out my 17w suspected low-lying placenta is now clearly out of the way of the cervix so one less thing to worry about. Just a waiting game... when I first got pg my OH said "wouldn't it be great if we could just be asleep for the next 8 weeks?" I feel the same way now - if the next 8 or 9 weeks was past, winter would be over and I'd be at 30 weeks with so much less stuff that could potentially go wrong.

buonasera - I totally know what you mean. I would love to wake up the day after I'd given birth with two healthy little uns, contendedly breastfeeding and my Mum here looking after DD. Whereas I have to spend 10 weeks worrying, getting slowly slower, and waiting for my Mum to turn up to help with my daughter.

I've really slowed down this week and picking her up, changing nappies etc etc has become so much harder. I've also got to stop myself obsessing about the birth - I think, like claire, because my previous experience of labour was so good I'm almost grieving the fact that it probably can't/wont be the same this time round. I'm still debating about whether to get a doula, the one I've interviewed is lovely and would do a brilliant job (she's a mum of twins), but it's so bloody expensive. But then, would it be worth it in the long run if she can help with making sure whatever birth we get we have a positive experience? And also all the postnatal support? She didn't know she was having twins and ended up delivering one at home and then got transferred to hospital for the other (footling breech). All natural and with no pain relief! I think not knowing you were carrying twins would probably really help!!!

Anyway, BB3, still thinking of you and your son. I really hope he gets home sooner rather than later. xxx

Here here for waking up the day after the birth!! Fast forward through the weeks of worry, growing vast and undesirable pregnancy symptoms- particularly the glamorous ones like constipation, varicose veins, heartburn and reflux, plus trying to monitor who's doing what and where

Twin 1, little tike, after two nights and a full day of nothing has moved and is definitely kicking. If this carries on every couple of weeks I'll be a nervous wreck by the end!!

buonasera its so good getting the all clear on the 20 week scan!! Mine have been one breech, one head down on both my last scans, though a different twin breech each time, so presumably kicking each other in the head!! I loved watching an arm or leg moving on the screen and feeling it too, so I hope yours arrange themselves suitably for next time! are yours mcda or DCDA?

It's that baby bedtime, draughty landing vigil, half in, half out dd's room so far, mn-ing on phone time of day for me again... Only tonight I'm feeling less negative and uncomfortable and very grateful I'm not stuck in hospital with a very ill child. Really hope he's doing ok bb3

Good luck dream. I think once you stop getting tense/desperate then the kiddos tend to pick up on it and relax too. It's just so hard to do that when you're wound up.

claire - I've been thinking a lot about how to get your babies turning. One thing is to try cats pose from yoga. On your hands and knees, hands under shoulders, knees under hips. Then on an in breath suck your tummy in (ha ha!) and curve your back to the ceiling. On an out breath let everything hang down and arch your back. Keep doing this till you can't stand it/get bored. You can always put your hands in a fist if your wrists start aching. Apparently it can create a bit more space in your abdomen for them to turn. Also helps with SPD - just be careful to keep your knees parallel and not too far apart. Also, any kind of side stretching will help make space in your torso - if you do it sitting down, with your legs straight out in front and slightly pigeon toed then it will also aid the SPD too.

Hark at me - I almost sound like I know what I'm talking about. (I'm not a trained yogee, just trained in dance when I was young(er) and have done a lot of yoga and these two poses helped me enormously last time I was preggo.)

I'm trying rednellie. Must confess to some frustration now, 35 minutes in and she's still not even lying down... I'm uncomfortable... But have inched all the way out. Oh well. and she just said 'mama' not sure whether just more babble or seeing if I'm still here but ?? first word!?! Couldn't resist breaking the vow of no interaction after bedtime and saying 'I'm still here' just in case it was a first word!! Far too soft for my own good...

I must try your yoga poses too. I keep meaning to try the pilates in pregnancy dvd my friend lent me...

Oh, and we put a deposit on a people carrier, our biggest and scariest purchase we need to make- eeek! Trade in my mini on Saturday if all goes well and we think its ok in the flesh. It's a pimp-mobile though... Seat Alhambra in black with the blacked out back windows... My dad thinks this is hysterically funny, and says it could be a drug dealers car... I'm sure he's wrong, no self respecting drug dealer would drive around in a car without alloys, surely?! Nervous about this purchase, plus feels wierd to trade for a car only one year younger than my 6.5 year old mini and with no less miles... I keep telling myself its practical and will not jinx me...

I think you're doing brilliantly dream. Just don't get too uncomfortable on that landing! I went into DD's room last night to tuck in before I went to bed and she mumbled "Mummy carry" and had a little weep. I felt AWFUL!!!! as this week I've really been trying to get her to walk more and she just wants to be carried....the guilt, the GUILT!!!!

Oh the GUILT rednellie.... They don't half know how to tug on the heartstrings! Your dd sounds so sweet. Love the image of her loving the cold wet beach building sandcastles, still thinking of that! My guilt inducing one, apart from bedtime, is leaving the house without dd- which I only do for work- the tears and clinging and guilt!!

Rednellie,

I just replied to your post on the thread I started, lol, it diesnt make much sense there but it will to you!! Thanks for suggestions, I am very touched that you have been thinking about me!!

No worries claire - I have a feeling I'll be in the same situation as you in a couple of weeks so feeling the empathy. I'm currently typing on all fours so I'm clearly going mental anyway! THIRD TRIMESTER! Finally.

PS dream definitely a drug dealers car. Have you ever watched The Wire? They all drive around in 'vans' (it's what they call em here in North America). Well, you'd want to be comfortable when you're making all those deals...

And yeah, DD is lovely, she would have spent the entire day making wet sandcastles with a freezing bottom and would have been totally content. (She does also scream quite a lot and hit other children so, you know, you win some you lose some )

In that case rednellie I'm going to make the pimp-mobile a sign saying ' no drugs are left in this car overnight'