Twins Club 3!! All welcome :-)

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Hello to everyone expecting twins!
Join us here for some mutual reassurance

MrsStevo, #1 & 2, EDD 23/08/2011, Lincs, MCDA ID,
Tiggersreturn #2+3 EDD 26/09/11 NW London DCDA - not finding out
silverangel #1+2 Sophie, 3lb3 & Alice3lb1 born at 31+2 on 01/08/11 EMCS
PrincessScrumpy #2 & 3, girls
BB3, #2&3 (#1 DS) DCDA girls born 20.09.11 by EMCS at 37 weeks exactly - Edith-May 5lb 11.5oz and Ayse-Rose 6lb 1oz.

PeelingmyselfofftheCeiling #1+2 EDD, DCDA, Boy and Girl, Born 14 Sept
Twinnerves, DCDA, #2&3, girls Francesca and Isabella, born 18/11/11 EMCS 6lbs 6 oz and 6lbs 9.5oz
xkatyx , ID girls, DC 8,5,9months, EDD 21/12/11
Quempin #1&2 EDD 27/1/12, ID surprise
Ravenlocks DCDA, #1&2, EDD 28/01/12
Tabbycatt, DCDA, 2 boys, DC 2 & 3, EDD 30/1/12
Claireinmodena DCDA, Boy & Girl, DC 3 & 4 (!!), EDD 23/02/12
Dreamfeeder, DCDA, DC 2 & 3, EDD 12/4/12
BigBoobsAtLast, MCDA, DC 2&3 EDD
CarrieInAnotherTWOBabiTWINS DCDA DC 2&3, EDD 28/06/12
Caesnake, DCDA, DC 2&3, EDD

Exactly BB3. I'm so sorry you've having a rough time with the DD's. It would be when you've just gone back to work and DH is away wouldn't it? It's almost like they know...

Right, have taken the side off the cot and lowered the mattress. She's not made a peep. I'm actually fairly relaxed about night time, it's the fact that I was sort of using the cot as a playpen during the day so I could get a bit of a break even if she didn't nap. Boo. Oh well, Mum's going to have to take the brunt of it as she'll be sharing a room with DD once she arrives .

Quick update: we're doing ok, i'm sire everywhere but each day is a bit better, should be going home tomorrow, but dont know if riccrado will be alliwed. They lost abit of weight but nothing worrying, but because he was small to start with we'll see what they say. They are feeding quite well now, but not from the breast i have virtually given up as they wont latch on left one at all, emma doesnt latch on much on either and he takes only a couple of sucks.... Its just so hard with pain from cs, drips etc, no sleep, if only the latched on well, but I dont think I can do it. Its just too much to ask rom me! I am ever so happy that they are here, they are healthy and they are girgeous that surprisingly I'm not too upset about it. (disappointed a bit).

I have read all your posts sorry if I cant reply to all, but i am not 2 sleepless nights at the moment!!

Claire - so pleased you are doing ok - both my girls lost a fair bit of weight at first, Ayse-Rose more so than Edith-May. Hopefully Riccardo will be able to go home with you, am crossing all my fingers and toes. Don't be disappointed, you are doing a great job all that matters is they are ok! Xx

Rednellie - honestly it's far too hard, I never thought I would do it but I've asked DH to come home early. I feel so bad as he is there visiting his family but i can't really survive doing it all by myself, even with day time help. Anyway he is coming back in 4 days rather than 10 so the end is in sight!

claire - don't be disappointed, you carried and brought those two little babies into this world, that's pretty amazing. I hope Ricardo gets to go home soon, sending all my love.

BB3, I think you've done the right thing. We all have to know our limits and respect them. Glad you're going to get some help soon. Man, I feel for you - looking after 3, working and some of them being sick is just a bit of a nightmare!

I've just found out my DH's company haven't really sorted their paternity leave out so DH doesn't know if he'll actually be paid at all for his leave (he was planning on taking two weeks). Here in Canada the man can take up to 5 months, but with no guarantee of pay from the company, however pretty much all companies offer some sort of top up - it's just his are so new that they haven't sorted anything out. It's the last thing I need to be worrying about at the moment, but hear I am at 5am in the morning, again, not being able to sleep. Gah. Why can't everything just be straightforward?

oh claire, no need to be disappointed- after all, so long as they're fed, job done. It's not the end of the world- you always knew it would be an uphill battle anyway because of your history/op. You did fantastically- cooking those babies to 38 weeks, and sound like you're doing wonderfully now. If only these blooming babies would realise mummies need their sleep.... i will cross my fingers that as Riccardo is doing well he can come home with you today or very soon! Do you feel light as a feather?!

crap, dd woken up coughing and crying

but before I go bb3, big sympathy. You are clearly superwoman, I thought this before, but managing alone is too hard...

Thanks ladies, I still feel bad as he only gets to see them every once in a while but we couldn't go this time as Ayse's heart murmur wasn't diagnosed / given the all clear (which we got this morning - phew!) and it's not having the support during the night that kind of means I'm constantly on catch up throughout the day rather than focusing on work!

Anyway, it's done and we will book a holiday out there in April for all of us x

bb3, even having help during the day will be hard- that's still only 2 adults to 3 very young children who may well all need cuddling/ reassurance/attention/ feeding/ changing at the same time. Plus illness makes it all different again. Plus if you're exhausted from the night it makes everything more of a slog, and for me I'm much less efficient when knackered. You couldn't have known they'd be ill when he booked, so unforeseen circumstances too. Is your sister around to help all day each day? Or be in charge while you're at work? And are you back full time? The baby stage is brief in the scheme of things but incredibly hard work so i don't think you should feel bad. you did well to last 10 days!!! And in the milk versus bag crisis- Was it ok, ish, waiting for lining to dry, then rub/ polish or did I miss another installment?!

Would no payment be no paternity leave rednellie? That would be rubbish... Hope you've got dd velcroed to her cot and having a rest :-) . And when you said the third trimester hit you like a train? I'm there with you now!!

This afternoon is going very, very slowly. Dd being high maintenance. Thinking of resorting to cbeebies but it doesn't normally get allowed except 30 min after tea...

My sister will stay with me as long as I want so much so the past three days she's taken a baby at 4am as they have been kicking of demanding attention as i feed the other one then takes care of them from 9.30-1. I have lunch and watch them 1-2 then she has them 2-5.30. Apart from Monday's when I'm in London and she has them 7-7. my mum helps out too and we are all around in the evenings. But I'm trying desperately not to take the piss as I even though I live next to them I'm trying not to blur the parent/child/grandparent boundaries!

Yes I'm working full time, my job or should I say my company would constantly call on me on my days off and I find it difficult to say no so even though I want to work part time I'd end up working full time without getting paid so said I'd go back full time and see how I get on.

Hope you're getting through the afternoon. The end is in sight! On friday we finish at 4 so I've managed to bath myself and all the kids early, just having tea then going to try and get them all to bed, ds didn't give in until 10pm last night the little bugger!!!!

I think it's the night times to be fair, Edith may is waking up each hour coughing and Ayse twice but if dh was here he could settle one while I feed the other but when they both wake together and I'm trying to soothe one, feed the other it's all a bit of a nightmare. I am getting about 3 hours and then siting at my computer all day it's killing me!

Sorry for spelling / poor grammar - one handed iPhone typing!!!

Oh and bag seems to be ok - has a nasty waterstain in the bottom but I'm 99% sure that will come out with a polish, am taking it to the leather place near work on Monday x

Right, that's it bb3, as I will be doing nights alone (dh says he just can't get up and help when he's at work- he's not good on little sleep and doesn't want to miss something major at work through not being 'with it' through sleep deprivation) we bloody are getting some day time help or it's me, Sunday night til Wed pm, with 2 1/2 days and nights alone- bar if my dad visits on a Tues as he sometimes does. I am putting my foot down! Especially as its my dad paying... It sounds really, really hard work. Especially with multiple children up in the night. I hope poor Edie's tummy settles down soon, and these bloody coughs- my last post was also one-handed on phone with DD asleep on my chest after her coughing woke her up way too early from her nap.. She was also a 9:30pm bed last night- something in the air clearly. Tbh, if my parents lived next door I wouldn't be able to stop myself taking the piss at the minute while it's all so hard. While chanting to myself 'This too shall pass' 'They grow up so fast' etc etc to feel less bad about it!!!! We need a link to this bag

I bought a Moby wrap to sling both babies on TAMBA for sale boards today... debating a Weego, but £70 + p&p is a lot more to waste if it doesn't suit us than £19!! However, looking at the YouTube video of slinging twins together, I seriously doubt I'll ever be able to get two babies in a wrap sling

Yeah I wouldn't be having 'i can't help' and 'you aren't paying for help' it's one or the other.

Generally, with no sickness, Edie wakes just once and Ayse twice which is doable alone but at the beginning you're feeding every 2 hours and then when sickness hits it all goes to pot!

My bag is here but I did not pay that for it - was in a very very good house of Fraser sale!!!

Ok trying again to show you the actual brown leather one here

Oh rubbish! Anyway it's the large classic leather brown one and I got it for such a bargain in a closing down sale. So hence why I'd be gutted if it was ruined as even if I needed to claim on house insurance it would be nothing near the value of a full price one! Thankfully it seems ok. Or will be after it's polished nicely Monday! Anyway enough about my bag! Had major tantrums with ds tonight! He's finally given in, now just the girls!!!

Nice bag! Hope tonight goes better BB3, you have my sympathies. Even one being ill is hard bloody work. 3 takes the biscuit.

And dream, I totally agree with BB3, your DH can't say no to getting help and then saying that he wont help either! That would seem rather unfair as it's money from your Dad anyway...I'd love to have more help, once Mum goes back I'm on my own, but DH is very good at sleep deprivation so will help at night. We'll have to play it by ear.

Also, I forgot to say earlier - I'm glad you've been able to make a decision about the birth. It is such a hard, personal decision. I think that scan and sonographer probably helped make you feel relaxed enough to think about it? You listen to your heart and just enjoy these last few weeks. (I'm sorry about the third trimester! Tell me when the hunger hits - I worked out I'm eating about 12 -15 eggs every week, at least. These buggers demand protein!)

Hi everyone else - hope you're all OK.

Rednellie I ate lots of eggs towards the end! But haven't had one since they've been born! I went off chicken too and peas (and I still hate peas!).

I may have painted too harsh a picture of my dh (may ) . I think he was under the impression that my dad was bequeathing us this money to spend as we saw fit and he wanted.it paying off the mortgage etc. He can be wierd with money- really tight about loads of things, but happily spend on others that he thinks are 'worth it' However, as my dad knows this, he's specifically saying we won't get a penny if its not spent on help now (phew!). Dh struggling to get his head round this. But without even time in nursery for dd and our local one only letting them do half days from.age 2 it'll be so full on for me alone otherwise. And if it came to it he probably would help at night, in times of illness etc, but just not as a standard thing. And he will Fri and sat or risk my wrath plus I'm lucky, he's off on a Thursday so that's Wed night he can maybe help too :-) .

bb3, I'm strugglinh being tired trying to get one 17 month old to bed (again). Back on landing. We'd been doing so well, singing and talking to herself for up to 2 hours in her cot but not getting upset then falling asleep, but the last two nights back to the bad old days (hence my current landing and phone activity). Huh?! And from how bad it is looking after one ill child, as rednellie says, I absolutely dread the thought of three.... Gorgeous bag, far too good to be carrying breastmilk in, crazy lady

Yes, I'm.happier now rednellie, as long as I don't think too long about all those desperate for a vb, and denying my babies the potentially beneficial rite of passage down the birth canal. So I'm.stopping thinking now!!! Hmm, I'm enjoying my time with dd but I'm.currently struggling with appetite due to reflux and god the rib pain- I think they're ggoing to pop apart . I have put a bump pic on.

And isn't lilyni having 2 girls??

Anyway, all gone quiet from.dds room, possibly and the landing is so uncomfy, I'm going to try and move!!!

And why can't I post from my phone without 52,3568 full stops in there?!

Had an amazing appointment at the Best Birth Clinic. The consultant went through all the medical literature on breech births, twin breech births (there's actually quite a few studies into it), the benefits/risks of everything...it was really eye opening and she was so good at explaining it all without trying to convince me one way or the other.

Anyway, I'd basically decided to change OB's so I can be under her care as she's willing to give me a trial of labour, and if she's not on call and I had to go for a c-section anyway, I still think in the weeks running up to it I'll be glad to have someone so good and on my side. Then we did a scan and guess what? Twin B has turned and is actually almost lower than twin A so could end up being the presenting twin!!!!! How weird/cool is that?!?! She spent the rest of the time trying to push twin A's bum up so his foot would get out of the way of twin B's head so he could go further down...weirdy weird weird.

Basically, it's been a brilliant afternoon. I haven't committed definitely to anything, but am seeing the MW's on Tuesday and my (ex) OB on Wednesday when I'm going to break the news to him. I'm so relieved as I really really didn't like him and, it turns out, he's got the highest c-section rate in town. This also means I'll be registered at the women's hospital which has the highest rated neonatal care too so if anything did happen to the babies we'd be in the best place. Ah, the relief...I do know that anything can happen, and am totally happy with that, but to be looked after by someone who at least empathizes with me and takes the time to explain stuff is worth the hassle of changing doctors at this late stage...

Right, shut up rednellie, everyone's asleep. At least I hope you are. xxx

BTW like the bump pics dream, you're looking beautiful and bountiful! I'm going to have to work out how to post photos to mn at some point.

Hurray rednellie! So pleased for you on the baby turning snd the new ob!! Sounds hopeful. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you!

Yesterday i gave the breast pump a go andcended up with a bleeding nipple within a coulpe of mins. They little these babies fed caused damage immediately! Thats it now, no more breastfeeding...

Babies are amazing though, i have somd lovely pictures of ghem together in their cot. And they're reallh good, i manage to change/feed/burp both of them in about 40 mins to an hour. Riccardo takes longer poor little mite!

We should br going homd later tiday, all together! Cant wait tbh.

Waves sleepily at everyone, sorry if haveng mentioned individually!

Yay rednellie

Dream, your husband sounds pretty normal to me, no bad picture painted! But I dont think they have any idea until the twins come just what it's like so be prepared to put your foot down

Yay for turning and on rednellie

Claire they sound brilliant - can't wait to see some pictures (if you want to post them - don't feel pressured!). Although part of me is scared if I see them I'll want more babies now!!! :) is little r coming home with you too? Hoping so!

Oh and have you see the pics of beyonce's baby, she is very cute and so like her mummy and daddy, and it's so nice that she (beyonce) is happy to go out with her post pg body proudly held in a opposed to others who emerge super skinny and like they've never even been pg!

Oh dream you look very neat (and isn't Isla just adorable!)