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dreamfeeder · 17/12/2011 22:22

Hello to everyone expecting twins!
Join us here for some mutual reassurance Grin

MrsStevo, #1 & 2, EDD 23/08/2011, Lincs, MCDA ID,
Tiggersreturn #2+3 EDD 26/09/11 NW London DCDA - not finding out
silverangel #1+2 Sophie, 3lb3 & Alice3lb1 born at 31+2 on 01/08/11 EMCS
PrincessScrumpy #2 & 3, girls
BB3, #2&3 (#1 DS) DCDA girls born 20.09.11 by EMCS at 37 weeks exactly - Edith-May 5lb 11.5oz and Ayse-Rose 6lb 1oz.

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Twinnerves, DCDA, #2&3, girls Francesca and Isabella, born 18/11/11 EMCS 6lbs 6 oz and 6lbs 9.5oz
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Quempin #1&2 EDD 27/1/12, ID surprise
Ravenlocks DCDA, #1&2, EDD 28/01/12
Tabbycatt, DCDA, 2 boys, DC 2 & 3, EDD 30/1/12
Claireinmodena DCDA, Boy & Girl, DC 3 & 4 (!!), EDD 23/02/12
Dreamfeeder, DCDA, DC 2 & 3, EDD 12/4/12
BigBoobsAtLast, MCDA, DC 2&3 EDD
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rednellie · 31/01/2012 02:23

I know. Amazing how quickly that's come around. I don't want claire to have hers yet as that means it'll be me next. I'm not ready!!!!

(Just had a call from the OB, apparently I'm a bit low on the old iron. I've been taking a multi-vit and recently Floradix in addition to that - anyone got any other iron supplement recommendations? His assistant wasn't particularly forth coming with suggestions...)

DreamingOfPeace · 31/01/2012 08:04

Hi rednellie, no useful suggestions but let me know- mine was just low last time (think the bottom of normal is 11.5 and i was 11.2 - though I was 14 the one before that!!) . I'm not taking anything but eating lots of broccoli and some more red meat so far. The (extra) constipation of iron frightens me!!!

Must dash, joiner coming to sort our super warped front door in 30 min and me and dd not dressed!!!

DreamingOfPeace · 31/01/2012 22:35

Warning: whinge alert...

I'm tired, my ribs are killing, I've got heartburn, I'd just like to go to bed, but dd will not go to sleep.... I despair...

And where is everyone? It's been so quiet on here today.

Have you uploaded any pics of your lovely girls yet to cheer me up bb3?

BB3 · 01/02/2012 07:48

Dream, all done!

Did you manage to have an ok night's sleep in the end? Could your parents come and take DD for a couple of hours so you can catch up on some sleep?

DreamingOfPeace · 01/02/2012 09:33

Urgh. She was up 1-5am again too for gods sake!!!! Going to wake her now... My parents live 50 miles away so a 100 mile round trip each visit, my mum works today, my dad came yesterday...

Will get to a computer soon for proper pic checking :-)

BB3 · 01/02/2012 09:49

Oh god dream! How are you still standing? Does she sleep well in the day?

claireinmodena · 01/02/2012 11:12

Oh dream you must be shattered!! Wish I could help really...

BBB3 teething x2 must not be much fun! I cannot imagine getting to yhat stage right now. Head firmlybin the sand still!!

Someone asked about how I treated nurs, well I tried just combing the first time they got them (they were 7 and 4) but took ages to get rid of them, so now I go fir heavy machinery!Grin especially during term time, it sounds bonjers that they should miss one week of school or more jyst for headluce. So its a foam treatment, and also daily combing.... Its a real drag though as they both have long hair!

I still havent heard from hospital..Sad but will ring my dr today as aldo i'm nit happy no ind will ser me from last check at 35 wks til cs day! The babies are still moving, but they have sliwed down a bir, which is normal, byt still, mych better to get checked!

We're having heavy snow at thr moment so hoping not to go into labour just now... Awfullynquiet on this thread, hope all are ok!!

claireinmodena · 01/02/2012 11:14

Rednellie, sorry no useful hints other than what you're doing. I hated iron supplements! Stopped a couple if weeks ago because of constipation...

galaxymummy · 01/02/2012 16:49

hi claire have you tried floradix?

DreamingOfPeace · 01/02/2012 16:50

barely standing, semi-functional...

dh has just got home and taken Isla to the swings so I am going for a lie down. But yes, woke her after 2 hours nap after lunch (I meant to limit it to 1 hour but the thought of facing her so cranky meant I kept putting it off..), and woke her at 9:30 this morning so her being up a lot in the night didn't trash her normal day routine too.... But we have started keeping daytime sleep shorter- sometimes I think it helps, sometimes I'm not sure. It all started so well yesterday- took her to the playground in the cold for ages in the afternoon, loads of running about after her nap to check she was physically tired, she went into bed after usual routine without a fuss (as dh home in time for stories and she generally goes down better fr him), was all quiet for 15 minutes til I thought she'd gone to sleep (wishful thinking) but then she piped up, chatting to herself, bit of shouting etc, for an hour or so- we left her to it- then escalated so i went up about 9:30 as I was wanting to go to bed and she was crying a lot more.... she finally went to sleep an hour or so later but was up within 3 hours. Maybe teething, but wouldn't take calpol (calpol versus beige carpet incident at 1 am), but quite happy if I was there. She got a cuddle, and put back in her cot- howled if I left the room, so after several attempts I stayed for a bit and took about an hour to get her calm and ? nearly asleep, but I'd only been back in bed 10 min before she started off again.... ended up taking her into bed with me- she'd go quiet and still and calm for a little bit, then stand up, whinge, wriggle round loads etc etc. At 4:30 i gave up and went back to the cot and inching out her room rigmarole... I know taking her into bed with me doesn't work for us (plus she'll only physically lie on me which ramps up my aches and reflux no end) but other than that, where am I going so wrong?!?!

bb3 what gorgeous pics! I love the one of them at 6 weeks old in mirrored positions! And they look so differnt at 16 weeks- amazing how fast babies change. They're beautiful. As is Karahan- fab pic in his wellies. AT least they've made me smile!

glad you're not in labour now in the snow then claire, maybe only 9 days to go- wow!

where's bigboobs? and goingmad? hope everyone is ok

best go for this lie down before dh and dd back...

galaxymummy · 01/02/2012 16:50

Hi There anyone living in berkshire and expecting twins?
Our next coffee meeting is Monday 13th February in Woodley Reading
xx
galaxy
twin coffee holder for 3 years

DreamingOfPeace · 01/02/2012 16:51

rubbish, I'm hours from you galaxy, though I do have a friend in Wargrave... (not sure how soon I'll be down visiting her!)

rednellie · 01/02/2012 18:33

Hello all! Agh, dream, what a nightmare. I'm not even sure how you're able to type with the lack of sleep you've had. I've had a couple of weeks of interrupted sleep and I'm shattered. I'm not sure I've got any advice to give, but I really hope it gets better soon. How old is Isla now?

galaxy I've been downing the old Floradix since day one, but apparently it's too wussy and I need a 'proper' iron supplement (my doc's words!). I'm going to try one he recommended and see what happens. I've been lucky with the old constipation so hoping I'll be able to stave if off a bit longer - I swear by dried apricots!

Went to a specialist women's physio yesterday and got assessed for the SPD/sacrial blah blah and she was AMAZING. A total revelation - apparently loads of stuff we're told about about SPD just isn't true - she's given me a load of exercises and tips so hopefully it'll pay off.

Nothing much else to report except I've got OB appointment tomorrow so will see if the boys have turned...unlikely!

rednellie · 01/02/2012 18:35

Oh and BB3, your children are lovely. Amazing how fast they change isn't it? What a great little family. Smile

DreamingOfPeace · 01/02/2012 20:15

Hi rednellie, Isla will be 17 months in 8 days time. She has purple bags under her eyes, I'm tired to the point of weepiness and she won't go to sleep. She's quiet enough in her cot alone now, but keeps piping up... I'll cross my fingers for a minor miracle and your boys to have turned tomorrow!!

What's floradix? Can you get it without prescription? I might try that now!

Really hope you hear from the hospital soon Claire, would make me nervous not knowing for sure too. Did you get them checked today? Or maybe they've gone quieter before labour, eek!!

Right, I'm off to have a hot chocolate to cheer myself up, then cross everything dd is asleep and I can go to bed... Though I'll have to be sat up I think, gaviscon resistant heartburn and reflux today...

rednellie · 01/02/2012 22:15

Floradix is yummy, it's a drink that contains iron and all the B vitamins along with a healthy dose of vit C. I got addicted to it last pregnancy, but apparently not hard core enough for me!

Aghhhhh, stupid other mum at DD's nursery when she saw me, first thing she said was: "So when are you having your c-section?" I've never spoken to this women before and was like 'what?' and then she said, oh well, you know, you're having twins so when will you have one? And me being me I got all hoighty toighty and said "I hope I wont be having one at all, I managed to pop Arianwen out fine." But she didn't leave it and went into a massive explanation of why people who have twins can't have VB's and that was what her prenatal teacher had told her so it must be true etc etc. I couldn't believe it - I mean, I very well may end up having a c-section due to the breech, which is fine and I'm getting my head around it, but frankly it's none of her business and what a weird thing to say to someone. It just drives me mad when people are convinced they know more than you, when a) they don't and b) you'd be the expert if there was any kind of doubt.

So that's my rant for today. Anyone got anything they'd like off their chests? Anyone heard anything lately from stinkingbishop or our newer members? Hope you're all ok!

rednellie · 02/02/2012 02:27

(PS I've just re-read that and realise it sounds very anti-sections, which I'm not, especially as I'm probably going to have one and have been mightily reassured by others descriptions of their good experiences. It was just the presumption of the woman! My DH just laughed at me and told me it must be the full moon, then he laughed some more. Smile)

Just did some hospital bag shopping. I figure if I get it done now the boys wont show up for ages...or something.

BB3 · 02/02/2012 05:07

Grin rednellie not anti section sounding at all, we've said it before but apparently when you're pregnant with twins (even more so that with singleton) people think they have free reign to ask completely inappropriate questions. And there's always something that makes you mad, for me it was the 'so ivf?' or the more subtle, 'so you um, knew you were having twins then?' Ah no it was a welcome surprise, they're naturally conceived but if they were through ivf they would be even more bloody special! (I did say that once and as we've said on the thread before, I wish I'd turned round and asked the nosey old bat how she had her babies - missionary, doggy?). But I digress, for some people it's comments about the size, coping (a lady on my an thread has 19 month old twins and a new scrumptious baby and was actually told off in a supermarket when pg with her baby for not loving the twins enough - because apparently she wouldn't have time for them once the baby arrived!), for some it's delivery methods or conception, but we go through 8+ months of people commenting on us inappropriately, staring at the large bump as you waddle past, something is bound to make you snap! Well done on not sitting on her! Wink

I'm just on the way to the airport as dh is off to visit his family for 2.5 weeks. And i am back to work monday so will have to put in my full 'yes i am back and working really hard' effort. It's going to be a interesting few weeks coping alone at night and then working all day / not letting my babies go when I finish. I am wondering if I should think about moving the twins to their own room (or whether without dh I should have them in bed with me for extra cuddles! Wink)

Claire, any news from the hospital?

Iron, I've always avoided the tablets as I didn't get on with them but with the twins all I wanted was red meat to give me iron fixes! I ate A LOT of steak!

goingmadtrying · 02/02/2012 06:50

morning ladies sorry I've been quiet for a few days, have been feeling really rough, to the point where I've been thinking what the hell have I done!!! :( i also have told people at work and although everyone is excited which is lovely im annoyed with all the questions and the constant explaning the risks etc I've had some people look at me with disbelief when i say im monitored every 2 weeks as if i should just pop them out! sorry for the rant!

dream i salute you i really dont know how your functioning with so little sleep, on a positive congrats on finishing work im already counting down:)
when did everyone finish what is acceptable???
Claire can't believe your babies will be here soon, im struggling to come to terms with the thought of having 4 dc i only ever planned for 2 and then changed my mind to 3 but 4!!!! its so scary

rednellie im surprised you didn't sit on her too!! how dare she it didn't sound anti section at all, and well done on doing your hospital bag :)

bb3 i like the sound of extra cuddles Grin

im sorry if I've missed anyone im on my phone so its difficult to go back especially with baby brain that seems to have struck me early this time Hmm i really don't know how ill cope at work for the next few months Blush

claireinmodena · 02/02/2012 09:52

rednellie I have been getting that a lot, people assuming it's going to be a cs just because its twins, and when I've said "actually I hope to have a VB", looked at me as if I was from another planet....most of the time it was people who'd had had only cs and felt very defensive about it. I ahve learnt not to say too much as I've noticed they take issue when I say iwould prefer a natural birth as if I'm critizing them for having a cs (most of the time I don't even know how they gave birth and why a cs was necessary). Its a sensitive issue!!

On a similar note I was enquiring about breast pumps for hire at the local pharmacy and when I said it was twins, the pharmacist blurted out "oh in that case surely you won't be breastfeeding?" I obviously didnt say anything about all my other issues but, honestly??? Just as well I've done it twice before and I AM informed because she was talking total rubbish!!

Packing the hospital bag early worked for me, I'm still here!! Grin

oh BB3 sgoing back to work when dh is away, sounds like hell...who is looking after the kids? do you work FT?

Re cs date, I think the guidelines are different here, as it is the hospital pushing for 39 weeks for everyone, they used to do them much earlier and I guess they've changed their views? (my friend had cs for twins at 36 weeks, no other reason than baby1 being transverse only 3 years ago, same hospital)

NO news about my cs yet, I'm calling my dr later. Babies have moments when they're quite active (normally after a meal) but much less, I suppose they are running out of room bny now?

I am just soooo ready to have them now, it doesn't help that my mum is being very grumpy today, don't know why, (you never know with her, could be stg I've said or done, or just the snow thing) but it irritates me. It doesn't help that that I am again unable to leave the house as the shoes that fit my swollen feet are pumps, theres stg like 40cm of snow out there, pumps not the most suitable shoes!! And its still going! so feeling a bit of cabin fever again. I just want to be with my family on my own again....Sad

Dh also getting on my nerves a bit as still treating me like I'm ill, people keep telling me I shouldn't be driving or doing this and that, I've just about had enough!!

ok that was my rant for the day too!!

Hi goingmad good to hear from you, as you have noticed the silly comments just duplicate with twins so may have to get used to it or think up some standard responses, most people are quite unimaginative and you will get the same comments all over again!!!!

How was your night dream ? Hope better than usual, like the others I do not know how you functionon so little sleep, I become a grumpy monster whe I don't sleep enough, which will make the nexrt few months rather interesting!

Hope you all have a nice day!

rednellie · 02/02/2012 12:23

Hey goingmad, you hang in there! Well done for telling work, at least that's all over and I found telling people multiple pregnancies are higher risk, not necessarily high risk made people understand a bit better. I can't remember the stats exactly, but things like gestational diabetes the risk for singleton pregnancies is, say, 1% of all pregnant women and in multiples its 7% but it often gets quoted that you're 3 times more likely to have it in multiple pregnancy. that sounds much scarier then 7% doesn't it? I think most people seem to stop work anywhere between 28 and 34 weeks. 80% of twin pregnancies end between 34 and 38 weeks so that might be something to consider. You might feel amazing, in which case there's no reason not to work, but you might not so it's good to maybe work out a couple of scenarios with your boss.

Honestly, with all this 'helpful' advice around it's a wonder anyone manages to breast feed or give birth. claire, you should have boshed that pharmacist with your magic bump when they said that. With my woman it was just the fact that I'd never even talked to her before - can you imagine someone coming up to you and going, so when's your next period/hysterectomy/lobotomy? I don't know, people are weird. Grin

Am over it now as I downloaded a hypnobirthing mp3 and spent all afternoon with it on. Had the hilarious backing track of my DD repeating every 3rd word - very funny, we both ended up in stitches on the floor. When I see how lovely she is and we have a good day playing together I do get very excited about these two lumps growing up.

Re: c-section dates. My OB is very OK with going to 39/40 weeks. He says he's never had anyone make it to 40 (or at least not often enough to comment), but he sees no reason to rush the babies out as long as they're being monitored. I think his reasoning was if you're body can cope with it and the placenta is ok then they are better off inside then in NICU (is it SCBU in the UK?). All the research for stuff like this is very undecided because doing any kind of study with pregnant women carries so many ethical risks - i.e. having a control group etc. So doctors are just going off the most cautious advice. At least now we can be monitored really closely and at least have some idea what's going on inside.

BB3, good luck with the next couple of weeks. DH was off snow boarding two nights last week and just having to do bath time two nights in a row finished me off. that and this waking up at 4am needing a sandwich malarky. Seriously, how much food am I going to eat? DH has had to go shopping 3 times this week...Oh, and the stretch marks are slowly inching their way along the bottom of my bump. I can almost feel these boys pushing out. Very strange, but amazing feeling.

DreamingOfPeace · 02/02/2012 13:09

Hello all,

Right now both these babies are hiccuping, but at different times out of sync with each other- feels very strange!

DD, the little menace, slept ALL NIGHT with not a peep out of her. Oh the wierdness of her patterns... She still spent 2 hours getting her very tired little self to sleep, but was down by a reasonable time- well, 9:30pm, that didn't affect me going to bed. I feel a bit washed out today, but I was up with the usual complaints in the night, just without her!!! Which was lovely Smile . The trouble is, now she's had some sleep, she'll be capable of another 'big' night of naughty sleep refusing, shouting antics soon... She's just so erratic. oh well, we'll see. She is still so tired today from the night before last she fell asleep in the car on the way home from her music group and I managed the risky but worthwhile transfer to buggy, so she's sleeping in there in the hall with all the other junk piling up now.

goingmad, I'm finding the whole twin pregnancy very different to my first- much more tiring (though some of that will of course be due to the very disturbed nights with DD and chasing her round all day), I feel very 'heavy' already, if I thought I had heartburn and reflux last time, this time its a differnt league and the rib pain . I am so relieved to have stopped at 28 weeks. Maybe, maybe if DD had been sleeping more reliably I could have done another 2, but I think that would have been it. And I was fine to 36 weeks last time. The HR lady I spoke to said it was unusual to go past 30 weeks with twins, 32 max she recommended (i'm on 2 weeks annual leave, then mat leave from 30 weeks). You may be fine til a bit later- the nature of your job must mke a difference too.

oh bb3, that does sound very challenging... Will your sister be having the girls? Personally, I'm such a light sleeper I'd go for twins in their own room! I think I will remain open-minded about how long I have the boys in with me, but I very much doubt they'd still be there at 4 months! I hope it goes better than you imagine (but I'm sure it'll be exhausting). What's the girls' sleep like now?

claire and rednellie, I wouldn't have been able to help myself giving a snotty 'well, actually ' kind of answer... For goodness sake! I am already bored of 'so are there twins in the family?' (no), 'will you be having a c-section?' (don't know) and 'how will you cope?' (how indeed!). Though I will have a section before I'm induced, I'm trying to think myself positive into VB if I go into spontaneous labour before that... It must be the way our bodies do it for a reason... claire, at my last appointment re:dates they said at 37 weeks, 6% of babies need NICU/SCBU, at 38 weeks 4% of babies need it, and at 39-40 weeks 1.2% of babies need it, hence the push for longer gestation if possible. I think mine will end up being 39 weeks, as for me 38 is landing on the day before Good Friday at Easter, and ELCS aren't done on a Thursday so I couldn't have it on Good Friday, as no elective surgery then, so it would either be 37 +5 or wait til 38 + 5. I think I know what the hospital will give me! How do they know the placenta is ok rednellie? from the scan and if the babies are growing? poor ipswitch with her ? placenta failure causing Adam's death is still haunting me (not half as badly as her of course, but it is a big fear for me, and was anyway). And I worry because she had no signs or symptoms,or anything to worry about, and the shock of that at her routine scan doesn't bear thinking about. Sad

Right, as my plan is 38 weeks, I shall try and make progress with buying some things for a hospital bag, and then packing one!!! That'll keep me pregnant til then. Wink

DH is getting on my nerves too- when he rang to say he's in the supermarket what do we need- how was I meant to know, I was in the midst of bathtime... and I said 'this haphazard shopping must stop' in a cross tone of voice, 'we need a list' etc he said 'well, I don't know why you didn't do it in the day' . I was gobsmacked- I'd taken DD to a playgroup, nipped in to the supermarket for fruit, bread and milk on the way home, but too near lunch and nap time for a big shop, got home, done lunch, recieved DD's new furniture, put her down for a nap, made several calls like booking in boiler servicing, swept and mopped kitchen floor, got DD up, taken her to playground, tea and bath and I was exhausted and there he is thinking I'm some lady of leisure skimping my share of the jobs!!!!!

DreamingOfPeace · 02/02/2012 13:10

oh wow, sorry for the essay...

claireinmodena · 02/02/2012 14:11

Just talked to my gyno, so the 13th is the date!!!! Only 11 days to go! Omigosh I'm not sure I'm ready for this!

I am slso going in monday morming to have the babies checked for my peace of mind Grin

Dream good about your dd sleeping well last night, dont fret too much about tonight, enjoy the moment!

Dont get me started on dh and shopping! Nit only do I have to provide detailed list, it has to include quantities, and brands! Milk is not ok. I need to say fresh, half skimmed, milk, x number of bottles!

Hiccups are funny, I find tboy gets them a lot more than his sister. I CANNOT believe I'll see them a week on monday!

claireinmodena · 02/02/2012 14:14

Dream. yes I thought the longer gestational age would have had stg to do with babies needing less care (i also imagine this has as much to do with the babies' health snd the cost of intensive care to hospital....)

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