Twins Club 3!! All welcome :-)

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Hello to everyone expecting twins!
Join us here for some mutual reassurance

MrsStevo, #1 & 2, EDD 23/08/2011, Lincs, MCDA ID,
Tiggersreturn #2+3 EDD 26/09/11 NW London DCDA - not finding out
silverangel #1+2 Sophie, 3lb3 & Alice3lb1 born at 31+2 on 01/08/11 EMCS
PrincessScrumpy #2 & 3, girls
BB3, #2&3 (#1 DS) DCDA girls born 20.09.11 by EMCS at 37 weeks exactly - Edith-May 5lb 11.5oz and Ayse-Rose 6lb 1oz.

PeelingmyselfofftheCeiling #1+2 EDD, DCDA, Boy and Girl, Born 14 Sept
Twinnerves, DCDA, #2&3, girls Francesca and Isabella, born 18/11/11 EMCS 6lbs 6 oz and 6lbs 9.5oz
xkatyx , ID girls, DC 8,5,9months, EDD 21/12/11
Quempin #1&2 EDD 27/1/12, ID surprise
Ravenlocks DCDA, #1&2, EDD 28/01/12
Tabbycatt, DCDA, 2 boys, DC 2 & 3, EDD 30/1/12
Claireinmodena DCDA, Boy & Girl, DC 3 & 4 (!!), EDD 23/02/12
Dreamfeeder, DCDA, DC 2 & 3, EDD 12/4/12
BigBoobsAtLast, MCDA, DC 2&3 EDD
CarrieInAnotherTWOBabiTWINS DCDA DC 2&3, EDD 28/06/12
Caesnake, DCDA, DC 2&3, EDD

Also good luck with your scan tomorrow dream!

Good luck tomorrow dream!

Claire hope you're doing ok, not long now xxx how exciting!

One of my best friend had a baby girl this afternoon after a 2 hour labour! 2 hours?!?!!!

Hope everyone's ok x

Good luck with the scan dream and glad you got a bit more rest yesterday.

We moved here because DH's company had started working with a Canadian company. They asked who wanted to go and we thought, why not? We're both people who grew up travelling a lot (his parents are UN and mine are academics) so moving country seemed like something we could do.

However, I've realised just how much I miss home and how at this stage of life (having babies etc) it's really much better being near family. My brother's girlfriend is having a baby in the summer too so we just decided to move back. It was a hard decision as, in some ways, life is good here, but tbh Vancouver is as expensive as London, there's not as much stuff going on and I'm not a skier/boarder (although I did learn). What I love about Europe is you can travel 2 hrs and be in a different culture, climate with different food etc. Here you'd have to drive for about 4 weeks to see anything other than fir trees and mountains! Honestly, I know people moan about the UK, but you don't realise how good it is there - people reference the UK on the radio here practically every day!

BB3 - 2 hrs?!? Actually, I have a friend who's last labour was about that, she's pregnant with her 3rd. I'm trying to convince her to arrange a home birth, there's no way she's making it out of the hospital car park!

My last labour was 2 hours from when I got to hospital to dd2's birth

That's brilliant! Have some

claire do you know what would happen if you went into labour pre your c-section date? I'm just wondering as i read a really amazing birth story of a woman having twins. She already had two older children, and the twins were breech, she was all booked in for a section then went into labour. Because her last birth was so fast by the time anyone came to look at her she was starting to push the first win out - she got both out!!! I am not suggesting you aim for this, but I was wondering idly to myself what would the docs do if this happened to you...Breech Birth

Oh, now I'd definitely be keen for vb if I'd had a 2 hour labour Claire! Someone I see at baby groups etc was induced early for her second and they put the drip up at 10 and she had the baby at 12. 2 hours total! presume it wasn't her first labour bb3 ? I bet the.girls are enjoying you bring up and about more but you have still been there for them emotionally and in all the most important ways the whole time, they'll not be scarred for life!!

Thanks for the living abroad stories, its so interesting. So are you Italian, or not from the UK Claire? I'd assumed you were a brit living in Italy (equally I could have misunderstood, I did try and put the kettle in the microwave today...). Glad you're adjusting to the twin weight a bit better, must be hard after all the rest. I'm feeling guilty about all the unhealthy eating I'm doing- I seem to have given myself free rein on chocolate, cake, crisps, and general junk food in a very blase fashion, despite the fact I know I should be trying to eat and snack healthily... As it still seems be bump expansion rather than general fattening up so far I seem to have forgotten the 'you are what you eat'motto. Hmm.

What an amazing story rednellie! She seems really sensible as well. I read one on natural home birth of twins (3rd and 4th babies too), but the mum was a real hippy-dippy type and had refused loads of things against medical advice. That mum just seemed to take the doctors advice and agree, but be relaxed and happy with having both breech- sensibly in hospital too!! If only you could know in advance how it'd go...

dream I dont think I ever made it clear that I am Italian sorry, was trying not to put too manh personal details, but I think by now I have anyway ! Not that anything I write on here is any secret tbh, just a bit wary about leaving traces on the net.

rednellie thanks for posting that article ut sounds amazing! My dr told me uf I go into labour before the scheduled cs, not to hang around and rush to hospital and they'll do an emcs. (which I oddly prefer as wouldnt have all the build up, and anxious waiting before it. I AM aware I am being a but irrationsl though!)

I do need to get my head around it though, I think I am still in denial and worry I'll come down with a crash after the birth fif thd disappointment... I need to try and accept this is just whats going to happen...

I know my dds are fine, but its the fact they never complained while obviously they've missed me being there, just makes my heart melt. (am also secretly happy that I cannot be substituted so easily )

Sorry claire, wasn't meant to mess with your head! In fact, what I liked about the story was how she'd come to accept the birth she was going to have and then it all changed anyway. I feel the same as you - if the boys carry on in this position I just have to come to peace with it. I'm sure you will/are.

It's nice when you're not replaceable isn't it! Especially by the MIL...mine's always talking about her babies...grrrr

I'm a bit scared - I've just started a fight (slight exaggeration) about the Mountain Buggy Duet as that lady who runs bestbuggy keeps slating it whenever anyone asks about it. I've only just started inching off this thread onto others - might go and hide in a hole now!

rednellie not worry its not you! I would havd the same thoughts even if I hadnt seen thd article

Snap re MIL. Mine often behaves as if the girls "belong" to her. Is your dh an only child too? I shouldnt be ungrateful as shes helped loads, but I also know that she has been more than happy to be able to play mum and take charge.
I'd love to discharge all help now, but I know it makes more sense not to. If the babies came overnught I'd have to ask a friend to look after the dds and its not really fair, when I have help available..

Slightly worried about the swelljng in my feet snd now hands, feeling so huge... Think I'll get mh blood pressure checked, just to be on thd safe side..

Will be waiting to hear news of dream's scan!

Hello All

Dream I hope your scan is all good and you'll come back and fill me in with the details - I've got mine in a few weeks, which can't come soon enough.

Mine are DCDA and we've got a matching pair of the blue variety, think your's are the same, aren't they? These are our 1st and 2nd, so no experience whatsoever which probably means I'll bombard you ladies with loads of questions - apologies in advance .

Lilyni, great news on the scan and congrats on being team pink!

All the talk of foreigh lands has really made me want a holiday but guess thats out of the question for a few years now!

I'm going to go and have a read of the breech birth article now. I'd love a VB if it was only going to take 2 hours but I'm still undecided which is my preference.

Can I ask when you guys are planning or did give up work? I was planning on stopping at 32 weeks but I also have 2 weeks holiday to use up. So don't know whether to tag it on the front so leave at 30 (seems a bit early but am also bored at work) or move ML start date back 2 weeks and tag on front so still leave at 32. Any thoughts/advice would be greatly appreciated.

Hello,

Getting emotional about this blinking routine scan in case there's something wrong as I'm very crampy and achey in my bump today (normal, I know), and am so tired I can't remember when twin 1, the 'quiet' one, last wriggled. Probably because DD went to sleep at 9pm, then was up 1-5am...then 8:15. I am actually having a complete panic now about how I will cope if the sleeping doesn't improve with her as I can barely cope with one today and seem on the brink of tears continually- and my dad has arrived to look after DD so DH and I can go to the scan and consultant appointment together, so its not even me supervising her lunch right now. I think I am just feeling exhausted. Should have gone to bed at 9 with DD, but of course was eating dinner, so went to bed at 11... not asleep with the rib pain by 12, so partly my own fault I'm so sleep deprived, need to get more organised. Is anyone managing without a nanny/au pair/ babysitter/paid help??? I think you do have your sister as a nanny don't you bb3, and did you say you're planning on a babysitter to help with your older girls claire? My dad says DD's behaviour/sleep may deteriorate if its the only way she can get attention as I'm run off my feet... though surely her sleep can't get worse than this?!

yes, snap skitoo, that's you, me rednellie and tabby who's recently had hers of the blue DCDA variety I bombard everyone with loads of questions. I am rapidly losing confidence in what I can do and my parenting skills as my best efforts at routines/ sleep hygiene give no joy... (particularly on emotional sleep-deprivation days like this!). Ask away!

I have just finished work at 28 weeks. I am so relieved. I think I could maybe have carried on a couple more weeks if it weren't for a demanding 16 month old who's not sleeping. However, bearing in mind lots of twins come early, I think it's probably sensible anyway. Are you going back to work after the twins are born? I think if I definitely were I'd have tried to work a bit longer, but we'll have 3 children under 2 1/2 when I go back so it's unlikely as we'll make a loss on childcare.

Hope your blood pressure is ok claire. I'd assumed you weren't Italian as you'd said your girls were at an international school (though i'm doubting if I remember that right now!), so I jumped to the conclusion you were a Brit or other nationality abroad and they weren't Italian speakers. Plus you write in such 'normal' english I would have thought you must be a born english-speaker. I went out with a Dutch guy for 4 years, and though he was totally fluent and virtually accent-less his written english gave him away! Beautiful italian babies, even more lovely!!! . And what lovely girls to have never complained.

I won't even mention my MIL, she drives me wild (despite being well-meaning)

must go and eat my sandwich

Sorry for the long rambling post. Will pop back after my scan.

Hi dream

yes I'm having a babysitter, she is a newly qualified midwife too! She's already helping taking the girls to their dance lessons, since neither my mil or mum drive. I really do not know how much I'll use her, I'll see once the babies arrive, but I do not want mum/mil staying with us for much longer and that will give me ammunition to shut dhs up. He's afraid I wont cope with all the kids. She'll be useful especially as she can take the older ones to activities (without me carting thd babies in cold weather everywhere), or to look after thd babies if I need/want to do stg with the girls. The girls really like her and the fact that she is a midwife (looking for a job still) are big points for me. Only drawback is I know she will not be around for long as she will eventually start working fulltime . With her I could consider starting work again in sept even. Can your dad not help you a bit more?

The girls attend an international school, we thought it would be the best choice for them. Dd1 was convinced she was british for a long time though LOL!

We do socialise a lit with brits from the school, after 10 years in the uk I find I have more in common with them than most Italians.

My blood pressure was fine, on the lowish side actually! So the swelling is just plain old fashioned water retention!

Not long now to wait before your scan, keeping fingers crossed for you everything will be ok.

I'm back from my scan, been offered an extended babysitting, lie down break for me by my dad but just having a quick hot chocolate first. One twin is so low in my pelvis they can't measure his head circumference. Explains the pressure and aching I've got really low in my bump. The quieter one is indeed currently facing his brother. Both cephalic now. Estimated weights 1151g and 1180g or 2lb 8oz and 2lb 10oz, so still growing well, both 50th centile babies. Hurray for that! The consultant said if I want a ELCS I can be given a date next appointment at 30 weeks for a CS at 38 weeks. Now they're both head down I'm in a dilemma, but I definitely dont want induction, so if I get to 38 weeks its a no-brainer, but spontaneous labour...don't know what to do now. Not a day for decisions anyway!

Anyway, sorry for the me me me post, but will be back later.

I have just written a complete, long message and it bloody disappeared! Rrr!! I shall try again....

All is good here, apologies for absence over the last few days things have been busy and I have been knackered. Had MW apt this week and all is well as far as she can tell... bump has grown loads! 23 weeks now, can't believe it.

So pleased to hear your scan went well Dream. When do you have another? And you have left work! Wonderful! Did you manage to get some rest when your Dad have your DD? I hope so, certainly sounds like you need it. I am struggling with night times at the mo as well. DD is going to bed ok but then up so many times in the night. I am blaming teeth so keeping telling myself 'this will pass'! I blimmin' hope it does as I am dead on my feel a the moment. Off to my parents for a few days on Sat so I am hoping to get a bit of a rest the. Although as well as the bad sleep DD has also developed a real clingy-ness to me - especially at night time - its always 'mamma, mamma, mamma' :-(

So things are a little hard at the moment, but having said that I love the odd moment that I have every day when I remember that I am REALLY GOING TO HAVE TWO BOYS!! And at ante-natal yoga last night another of the ladies came to talk to me and said that she originally had twins but lost one early on - so now nly carrying one. She said she still felt like a twin mummy bless her. Reminded me how lucky I am and how special the babies are.

Yay for two boys Skitoo!

Babysitter help sounds great Claire, and will really help I am sure. Unfortunatelt not reallt an option for us and we have no family nearby - so really need to think about how we are going to manage ... I think I am in denial at the moment.

Hello rednellie, Lilyni and goingmad.

sorry for rushed post, gotta fly. x

skitoo, ask away - we're all rubbish though so you'll probably want to ignore everything we say! . Seriously though, any questions at all let us know - you may have gathered already that lack of sleep does seem to be factor in bringing up children...

claire, ha ha, DH is an only child. So he has always been the apple of her eye - bloody annoying. I think also, as she hasn't had any girls she's always banging on about how I'm her daughter now (I am not, I've got a lovely mother and I don't need another one) and she is incredibly gendered in her approach to everything. She always asks DH about things to do with DD - i.e. DD has this funny growth on her ear, apparently very normal, and she spent an entire lunch when she was a tiny baby telling DH to 'get it sorted' whilst managing to ignore the death stares and interjections from my end of the table. I'm probably VERY unfair to her, as she is in her late 70's, from Egypt and going senile, but she has the amazing ability to make me feel guilty whenever I talk to her - classic passive aggressive. I could rant for ages about her! That's why she's only coming out in May and only for a week and I've booked her into a bnb down the road. I'm such a cow! But she wouldn't be any help anyway as she's spent her life living in countries where having a cook and house staff is the norm (for middle class) - hasn't got the first clue about babies. She thinks bf is odd, that you should wean when they're about two weeks old and is generally confused by me not drinking and smoking throughout my pregnancies...Phew!

So, anyway, long way round of saying to dream, we've got my Mum for the first month but after that we're on our own. I'm sure we'll manage. My very good friend with the 6 year old twin boys said it used to drive her mad that all the twin literature says help is not a luxury but a necessity - she was skint at the time and had useless parents, but she did it. She says she remembers that time as being very happy, but very tired. Sounds about right.

Also, dream, I felt terrible when I read your message - I'm sure it will get better, don't listen to your Dad. Just keep persisting, you're doing a brilliant job - it's always so much harder to see that when you're knackered. And start going to bed earlier! I'm a fine one to talk, but you have to think about your health and it really does do wonders and wont be forever. xxxx

yes, sorry rednellie, I'm just feeling sorry for myself today... And worrying about DD feeling ousted when the babies arrive. I will- it's because DH isn't home when I could feed DD, so I 'normally' wait and eat with him after she's in bed, hence our evenings getting so late now- should just eat with her so I can go to bed early,as there's no point going too soon after eating as the heartburn and reflux just get me worse than usual!!! Sure I'll feel more positive after a better night...

Anyway, sorry, no time to reply to you bigboobs, I am suffering the sleepless nights with you though!!! DH needs the computer.

xxx

Don't be sorry dream, you've got nothing to be sorry about. Hope you're sleeping right now.

Dream fab news on the scan and great weights. I had the same problem with one of mine at my last scan, he is firmly wedged down there and hasn't moved the whole time. Don't think he actually has a choice as the other one is always either standing or sitting on his head .

And congrats on finishing work! Balancing pg, your little one and work must be really tough, so hopefully you'll have a bit more time now and can chill out, spend some more time with DD and get some more rest. I'm leaning towards finishing earlier now, as to be honest I just can't be a*sed with work.

Claire, the sitter/midwife sounds great and will be a massive help with your other children. Fingers crossed you can hang on to her for a while. Am I right in thinking that you're next in line to meet your little ones?

Rednellie, I'm certain than you know more than me and are in no way rubbish. I'm a little worried about how we'll cope after we come home from hospital as we have no-one really near by and how we mange the visiting in-laws . They will only want to be helpful but just not sure I want them staying in the house with us as soon as we get home but they do have to travel a fair way. I had a quick sneaky look for maternity nurses yesterday, after a TAMBA evening we went to the other night, where we met a couple with 10 week old twin girls who said they had a maternity nurse for 3 weeks, which was a massive help and got them in to a routine. Sounds great just not sure about the £££'s!!

Bigboobs - hoorah for 2 boys too! I love those moments where I have a little think and am overwhelmed with that feeling of, yes I'm going to have 2 little men - I can't wait .

Think I better start my mattress research get on with some work now...

Hello...

So glad your scan went well dreaming - its great that the babies are such a good weight. Cant believe how well you are managing with so little sleep, hoping you will get some more rest now you have finished work. You kinda put me to shame as I have been off sick from work from end of October - had really bad hyperemesis and was admitted to hospital, anaemic etc. Ive just felt so tired running after 3ds that I couldnt cope with work at the moment (I start work at 7:30am). You did make me chuckle though with the kettle in the microwave - sounds like something I would do. My eldest ds was upset that we will be having 2 girls - think he wanted one of each but he's getting used to the idea now. Im finding it strange at the thought of having girls too - I guess I have just been boy mad for the past 7 years and its hard to imagine what it will be like to have girls. Boys are so lovely skitoo

claire - hope you are keeping well and the swelling/bp is ok.

rednellie - oh my goodness about your MIL - sounds like a nightmare!

big boobs - glad everything went well at your MW appt

Im gonna hopefully take the full years maternity leave off after babies are born. My mum and dad have said that they will keep the twins while I work (I only work 4 mornings) thankfully. But it will be pretty full on working with 5dc. Thank goodness my dh is so hands on / good around house.

Afternoon twin ladies. I should be working but am feeling so tired and rotten at the moment I had a really good day on Monday and thought I was moving towards the mythical 'bloom' stage but seems not!

skitoo lovely to see you on here!

Dream glad to hear that your scan went well and very jealous of you finishing up! Sooo long to go here!

Claire are you booked in for a specific date for birth? Lovely that you will soon meet your LOs.

Waves to all the other ladies x.

Could someone help me with a couple of other queries? Firstly, my 20 week scan is booked in for 22 weeks. The hospital (Kings in Camberwell) were quite specific that DCDA twins should be done at 22 weeks - is this the experience of others? Also, if everything looks hunkydory what do I expect in terms of scans after this? I think if it was just a singleton, that would probably be that, but any advice appreciated.

Also, am dreading telling work but it had to be done (I think I probably only have about a week of hiding this bump to go!) any tips? And how do you break the news about it being twins?? I really don't want lots of prying comments about either IVF (which work don't know about) or about whether twins run in the family etc. I guest I just have to brazen it out

Sorry one other thing and many apologies for stoopidity - forgive me this is my first time!

Until a few days/possibly a week ago, my emerging 'bump' was really just my tummy area. I had a little tummy anyway so this has just got a bit bigger/harder if that makes sense. However, now the top of my tummy, right up towards my is really starting to grow (and hurt!). I presume this is normal?! I'm only 5 ft tall so I guess everything is quite close together anyway

Hooray!!! I am restored, at least partially! DD only woke up once, briefly, in the night and I feel so much better already.

lilyni, the only way I stayed at work til now was because I was off until I was 14 weeks pregnant, finishing my mat leave and taking annual leave/sick leave. I was way too sick to have been in before then, but thankfully, this pg I had different anti-emetics that actually worked. I had no confidence when they were prescribed as I took cyclizine in my first pg, which did nothing to stop the puking really and it wasn't as severe then either, but this time I had Buccastem/stematil plus diarolyte and managed to drink enough. I lost lots of weight though, and was at my thinnest to start with so wasn't ideal. I am now too tired to carry on I think, and that was only doing 2 days a week- the toddler part is hard! Everything you read says rest regularly- ha! tell that to a 16 month old (or 3 year old for that matter). Glad you say boys are lovely

I was dreading telling my manager teds, I had to ring her after my 12 week scan when we found out it was twins to say I didn't know when I'd be back after my maternity leave yet as I was pg again, with twins, and currently too sick to work... At 12 weeks, even with medication, I couldn't eat or drink til it had kicked in properly, which was usually 11 ish. I had to wait for the morning vomiting to stop- as buccastem is the pill you have to let dissolve wedged up in your gum- so if you take it while being v sick you just throw it up again I found. So I'd be too sick for the first couple of hours to take it til 9ish etc so working would have been impossible. I broke it to her by saying 'I have good news for me but very bad news for you...!'. I have found I been asked if twins run in the family constantly, and been asked if they're IVF too. I don't know how to avoid it, but suggestions on here if asked how they were conceived varied from telling the truth, whatever you fancy at the time (oh yes, twins on both sides of the family!) or going for the pointing out how rude the question is with 'how were your children concieved? missionary position?!' Oh- and luckily, I work in children's services, so my manager knew straight away I'd need more rest, less physical tasks immediately and I'd be leaving early. She was actually very supportive.

I'd guess the pain is just your insides being pushed up under your ribs more as the babies grow teds. My bump was moving up by then- are you 14 or 15 weeks now? I'm 5'4" (dh is 6'4"- maybe hence the big boys?!) and now the rib pain is getting unbearable rather nasty at 28 weeks but has been around for a good long time already. Mine's killing just sitting now, top of bump and ribs... and I have never 'bloomed' this time. Straight from sickness, into sickness and heartburn/reflux, tiredness has persisted (helped by my DD), and now the rib pain! and pressure from twin 1 lodged in my pelvis, and constant weeing!! Not convinced I bloomed last time...maybe briefly!

Now, I think I am going to book a date for elective CS at 38 weeks at my next appointment because I will not be induced again. End of. But what do I do if I go into labour spontaneously before that? I really don't think I coped that well last time, it was an induction which is meant to be more painful but I don't feel I managed well. The thought of giving birth...then doing it again immediately is frightening the life out of me, plus worrying about re-tearing/ instrumental delivery, emergency CS for twin 2 (or both) after a long hard labour (which I was so close to last time too).... Any opinions? Start doing my old hypnotherapy type CD again?? Say I really want an ELCS? The twin's head they got a measurement for was 75th centile, like DD was at birth.... just brings up the panic of another big tear!!! I feel rubbish about it all too, because I know most people would be delighted to have 2 cephalic babies (unless one turns again) and the option of VB... I'm a wuss!

Lilyni - 3 boys wow, I shall definitely be coming to you for advice!! Girls will be so cute though, the ones I saw the other evening looked like little dolls.

Hey Teds, sorry you're feeling so naff, at least today is nearly over and you can hopefully put your feet up over the weekend . I had my scan at 22+3 so not something my hospital insisted on. However I did have a couple of other scans at 18 and 22 weeks but these were cervical scans, to measure and ensure that my cervix was not shortening from carrying twins. I think this varies across hospitals though so not always standard. (Dream think you asked this on the other thread). I now have scans and clinic with my consultant booked in for 28, 32 and 36 weeks. All of these were booked way back at my first consultants appointment. Hope that helps but do remember that all hospitals have different policies - just like those bl*ody ivf clinics we had to put up with.

As for telling work just tell them as much as you're comfortable with. My immediate boss and MD knew I was going through ivf so was easy. I didn't tell anyone else until about 13 weeks and if/when anyone mentions twins running in family I usually just reply with 'no complete freak occurance but you know me, I don't like to do anything by halves' - usually shuts them up .

My bump is actually quite low sitting so think I get the same the other way. I've had a horrible pain really deep and low today (was quite worried at one point) but think it's just stuff being pushed down. I was at ante-natal the other night and couldn't help myself from comparing bumps, so mine is really low compared to lady who is about 22 weeks, hers comes out right under her and we're both short too. I'm the same as you too Dream, I'm 5'2" and DH is 6'3" .

Dream you sound like a new woman - hoorah!!! Everything crossed that the sleeping continues. It'll be interesting to see what options I'm given at my 28 week appointment, when have they asked you to decide by?

Right I'm off home now. We are baby shopping tomorrow - its going to cost a fortune . Have great weekends everyone.

Hi ladies

Just a quick pop in as it's the start of dinner/bath/bed...

Dream, yay!!! Hope this means dd has turned a corner!

Sorry for non-named posts I'm on my phone and can't remember who said what...

Re telling work, I told my bosses before my 12 weeks scan as I was so sick and commute 2 hours to work each morning so was constantly off or late after horrendous train journeys - then I told them after my scan it was twins! They laughed and then swore and then we just got on with it!!

Have fun baby shopping x

Pain sounds completely normal for tummy stretching!

Things are getting better in the house of sickness, ds is much better and girls are just lively at the moment, full of smiles and giggles and they just seem so big! They're both currently led on the floor chewing their fists and gibbering to each other.

Dream - on coping. You'll be fine. I mean I'm not saying it won't be hard but so what if the house doesn't get hoovered or the ironing done, you'll soon work out your own little routine with the three of them and each day it gets easier x