Twins Club 3!! All welcome :-)

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Hello to everyone expecting twins!
Join us here for some mutual reassurance

MrsStevo, #1 & 2, EDD 23/08/2011, Lincs, MCDA ID,
Tiggersreturn #2+3 EDD 26/09/11 NW London DCDA - not finding out
silverangel #1+2 Sophie, 3lb3 & Alice3lb1 born at 31+2 on 01/08/11 EMCS
PrincessScrumpy #2 & 3, girls
BB3, #2&3 (#1 DS) DCDA girls born 20.09.11 by EMCS at 37 weeks exactly - Edith-May 5lb 11.5oz and Ayse-Rose 6lb 1oz.

PeelingmyselfofftheCeiling #1+2 EDD, DCDA, Boy and Girl, Born 14 Sept
Twinnerves, DCDA, #2&3, girls Francesca and Isabella, born 18/11/11 EMCS 6lbs 6 oz and 6lbs 9.5oz
xkatyx , ID girls, DC 8,5,9months, EDD 21/12/11
Quempin #1&2 EDD 27/1/12, ID surprise
Ravenlocks DCDA, #1&2, EDD 28/01/12
Tabbycatt, DCDA, 2 boys, DC 2 & 3, EDD 30/1/12
Claireinmodena DCDA, Boy & Girl, DC 3 & 4 (!!), EDD 23/02/12
Dreamfeeder, DCDA, DC 2 & 3, EDD 12/4/12
BigBoobsAtLast, MCDA, DC 2&3 EDD
CarrieInAnotherTWOBabiTWINS DCDA DC 2&3, EDD 28/06/12
Caesnake, DCDA, DC 2&3, EDD

Hi goingmad!

Claire I was so, so upset about having a cs but in the end I was worried about nothing. Hopefully, when you go to drs they'll be able to talk you through it and you and discuss what you want. Where were your girls born?

Bb3 in england thankfully , had fantastic midwife first time round who stayed with throughout. Second time in a midwife led birth centre, virtually laboured by myself (while poor dh sat watching in a chair, couldnt stand being touched) and called midwives just for the pushing stage, they then left us alone with dd2 for a long time. It was absolutely lovely and couldnt stop thinking "I have to do this again!".
So most of what I know is uk based abd I oddly feel like a newbie here!

Blimey so you're really jumping into their maternity care at the deep end then! Hopefully dr can reassure you or you'll have to get hormonal firm with them!

Hello everyone,

I am expecting DCDA twins - due date 12th June. I already have 3 boys under 8 so we are going to have a very busy mad house I imagine!!! I have my 20 week scan on 23rd Jan so will hopefully find out what we are having - we are struggling for names this time. It's great to find people in a similar position :)

Lilyni and Goingmad - hello! Great to have some new people join - Goingmad I have been chatting to you on the pregnancy thread, glad you feel happy to join this thread now! We are both MCDA so we can hopefully keep each other clam and positive along the way! Quempin has recently had her ID boys - so I am sure she will be a great person to talk to as well.

Claireinmodena , I know 3 -4 weeks sounds soooo long to you but it is so soon! It will be here before you know it and then you will have your lovely babies.

I am not sure how to do the stats board - I think Dream did the last one?

Good luck with your scan Lilyni - only a week to go before you see your babies again! I have got another scan on Wednesday and it is always a mixed feeling - excitement and nervousness!

Goingmad , just seen your other post on the pregnancy thread. Re MCDA - did freek me out a little and still does if I think about it too much. However, I have focused on pregnancy and not too far ahead. I am 21+4. I DID NOT (really, I didn't!) google Twin-to-twin transfusion so I am a little ignorant of the risks. The positives are that as of my 12 weeks scan I have seen someone every week (as you should). ONe week I see a consultant at the hosp at have scan to make sure both are growing ok (which is great as you feel you are being kept an eye on and you get to see your babies every fortnight which is very reassuring), and the week in between I see the midwife who measures for growth and checks heartbeats etc - so again, reassuring.

I know MCDA has more risks, but I am really trying to stay positive about it and not think about it too much - I have only just strated to think and start to plan for actually having the babies (let myself think that far ahead after a good 20wk scan).

You will have your 12 week scan soon and that should hopefully help you feel a little better about things. It is so special having twins that I feel more lucky and exciting the worried and nervous - although of course I have those feelings as well.

Its great that we can chat to each other!

DH is having a beer. So not fair! Orange juice for me - in an effort to ease constipation!!!!

Welcome lilyni (mine are DCDA too) and hello again goingmad so lovely to have you both here. Not long til your scans, always good to have the reassurance of another scan and see them again!

As quempin, raven and tabby have all just had their twins, I think its Claire due next! I don't think I can update the top of the thread as that was the starting message, but next time I'm on a computer, or anyone who posts from a computer, I normally just do a copy and paste and try to remember to check everyone's details from other pages first and add it on! However I am again posting from my usual spot on the landing while simultaneously going 'shush shush shush'.... (And thanks for the hand holding and support rednellie, I'm really touched) and you are right of course bb3, a clear spell of good health and we'll crack the sleeping, but it has indeed been all of my pregnancy from 8 weeks on so far...

I have also only just begun to really believe we're having 2 babies bigboobs, though in the last 3 weeks we've done loads of buying (by 'loads' I mean the cotbeds I've ordered as they're out of stock til Feb and the behemoth car) but its all buying we obviously only need for two babies and makes me a little nervous... On the new car note, we have had it a week today, and today Dh scratched it, down the whole length of the passenger side, and my first reaction was 'phew! Don't have to worry about putting the first mark on it then!!'. He is really miffed about it, amazingly for a 5 year old car it was looking pretty immaculate- til we got it of course...

Dd seems much chirpier today, not hot now (not sleeping either, but wasn't really expecting a miracle either) and we went to the RSPB reserve near us and it was amazing, saw an otter, bobbing in and out of the slip stream of water that wasn't frozen, getting half onto the ice and back into the water. So lovely! Then dd woke up, so back to the ducks! Also got lots of 'Not long now?' And 'when are you due?' type comments and the 3 months to go was greeted with amazement! Clearly looking near term at 26 weeks.

Hi Lilyni, welcome! This is a good place for reassurance and info. I'm expecting didi boys (sorry, can't get out of the habit of calling them didi) in about 8 weeks. Eek! Also got an almost 2 year old DD.

dream, does your DH have any ideas as to why your DD has had such a rough time or is it just one of those things? Also, have you stopped breastfeeding or not? Just wondering as I was really worried when I started stopping that my LO would get ill, she didn't but it has happened to other people I know who did extended bf.

Also had lots of "oooh you must be ready to drop" comments and then when I say I'm not actually due till end of March and that its twins I get the mouth open, omg how big are you going to be etc etc etc. Had a brilliant one today, Mum at my local swimming pool when she found out it was twins and I was swimming with DD - "Oh bugger, how will you cope?" Cheers for that! I weighed myself the other day - I reckon I've put on just over 10kg so far...

What is nice though is there are lots of Hong Kongers in Vancouver so they are very impressed with me having two boys in the year of the Dragon. And it's a water dragon which is apparently doubly lucky. So that's nice!!! Although I will then be living with 3 dragons and one tiger...and I'm only a little old goat.

goat!! I can imagine your babies chasing you around roaring like dragons and tigers!

Linyl - congrats - xkatyx has just had twin girls and is now a family of 7 too so she'll be able to give you some advice x good luck with the scan bet you can't wait to see them - but blimey if you have two boys can you imagine the chaos and testosterone flying around in a few years? I love baby boys though so I'd happily have 10 more of them (although I love, love, love my baby girls obviously ) i've only got three and my house is chaos!!!

Goingmad/bigboobs Id are obviously higher risk but on the plus side you get to see your babies every 2 weeks and are so carefully monitored x

Dream - that would be my reaction too! Thank goodness it wasnt you! Can it be fixed? Or touched up?

I don't know bb3, I have tried to be very diplomatic and not even go and have a proper look at the scratch and rub it in (knowing full well I'm likely to do it too at some point!!!) . Dh says he'll try and wax it out a bit

So biggest success at bedtime in ages- dd asleep by 8:10pm! She's got cough/ cold symptoms but is cheerful today, but clearly not on best form as she fell asleep in the car at 11am (she'd never normally do that, even after her awful night on Thursday, she didn't fall asleep on a 30 min drive home after Baby Signing 11:30-12 in-car time) but now I'm wondering if its All My Fault re: the Bedtime Battle and if she naps 1-3 ish, if that's a big part of why 7 ish bedtime has gone so wrong??? I only put her nap back as I started totally failing to get her to sleep 11:30 ish, then found if she went at 12 or just after, it made lunch 2pm or later and messed up the rest of the day... But going to sleep too late in the evening has her bags under eyes, zombie child the next day?? Any thoughts? I'll feel so awful if I have indeed been Doing It Wrong...(but it may be quite likely). And now you mention it rednellie, I stopped bf at 16 weeks pg as it got too sore, so 10 weeks ago. Right on target for all this continuing illness... Oh the GUILT!!!! It's my fault she's not sleeping AND ill!!!!!

Boys in the year of the dragon, what good planning rednellie . I've had comments like that too, and am never quite sure how to answer. The standard, 'oh, we'll manage', or 'goodness knows?!', or maybe we should think of something more creative to reply with?!

bb3, Dh tells me constantly he doesn't want more children after this, once chaos reigns, that'll be a definite! Bit sad he's so sure before the boys even arrive.

dream - agh, did not mean to put more guilt on you re the breastfeeding, it just suddenly occurred to me it might be linked. But NOT YOUR FAULT!!! Just might help you rationalise...I've been thro the whole 'when is the right time for naps?' debate and have come to no conclusion. A lot of toddlers i know seem to nap over lunch time - I think if they have a big breakkie and snack it doesnt' really matter. Maybe try it?

dream

i was reading your posts on the other thread and just wanted to say you should not feel guilty about your dds sleep or indeed health problems!!

Some kids are good sleeoers, others are bad ones and mist if them go through a variety of phases. We like to think we have control over it (I certainly did), but in reality I think its mostly down to luck!

As for tge breastfeedibg an illness I do not think there us such a direct link, the ninute you stop bf they start picking up bugs. Didnt happen with mine, who actually had the most horrendous cold as fully breastfed young babies.

From my 10 years of being a mum and meeting lots of other mums and babies I have to come to the conclusion that there is never a magic solution and there is only so much you as a mum can do. You can facilitate sleep (or whatever the issueis), with the right routines bla blah, but then whether the baby responds to that or not is a completely different thing. You can bring a horse to water and all that.
They are not machines but very complex little individuals that wirk in their own mysterious ways !

I know this is not going to help your sleepingnproblems especially in view if the twins coming but please dont add guilt to tiredeness, you're doing everything you can!
Its a cliche but it WILL PASS and before you know it, they'll all be off to school and you will have a whole new set of issuess to feel guilty worry about!

Do take care

Ps hope that didnt come out as patronising...

rednellie I got loads if comments like that, and worse than words its the looks on people faces when I was out with the dds and bump and one if my girls would proudly announce it was twins, I was getting quite fed up with it!

I took dd2 to have her eyesight checked (done at hospital here) and as I walked with the dds the dr asks me "are they ALL yours?" I actually turned around to check that no other children had sneaked in with me as I couldnt understsnd why she would say that!!!

Its even worse here in italy where most families only have one, max two children, so they think you're either mad or belonging to some hardcore catholic group (which are NOT). There is this assumption the kids are just hard work and anyone having more than two is mad, extremely religious, or it was an accident the though that I actually enjoy my children (most of the time anyway ) doesnt even occur!!

(feel free to remind me of what I've jyst said when I come back moaning in s few weeks time ).

at the lions and tigers!! Looks like I'll have 3 tigers and one lion chasing after me!! I can empathise with thr little hoars analogy!

NOT YOUR FAULT DREAM. You are doing all you can and things will fall on to place soon. My dd (2 next month!) has always been a difficult sleeper and it is hard not to beat yourself up about it when you are so tired. My dd did go to sleep till nearly 9 last night and is now a right grump coz she is so tired! It is definitely not always easy being a mum but from the sounds of your posts you are doing a GREAT JOB. sounds like you need a treat to cheer you up. Pancakes for breakfast?!

Thanks all! I am feeling a bit down and not quite right and generally weary today. DD might have gone to sleep miles better last night, but I was up for 2 1/2 hours in the night with her... the 2-4:30am stint, which never really makes for a cheerful morning!! Little tike woke up coughing, a bit wheezy and very bunged up and then was wide awake. WIDE awake... So I assume this is why I feel a bit off. Not patronising at all claire, I think I'm getting really tired with the lack of relaxing evenings too, and a bit desperate and 'what am I doing wrong?!'. I have managed to get DD to sleep in her cot now, 1pm, so all on for waking her earlier and seeing if it helps bedtime- though probably not a good time to try with this stinking cold. I know you're probably right about the breastfeeding, and I was so sore, toe curling again!! I'm sure stopping was the right decision, but it may have added to this constant stream of viruses. This too shall pass!!!!!!

And, as if I'm not whingey enough today, Twin 1 is quiet again. I am sitting on the sofa typing this and eating chocolate to see if I can feel some movements before I head to bed to see if I can join DD in a nap!

claire, I always imagined the Italians having big families, how wrong I am. I love the thought of the comments you'll get with 4 in tow! Or did you say you might be leaving Italy? but kids hard work- I fully agree! I get so much pleasure out of DD it's definitely all worth it except maybe at 3am...

MrsStevo, #1 & 2, EDD 23/08/2011, Lincs, MCDA ID,
Tiggersreturn #2+3 EDD 26/09/11 NW London DCDA - not finding out
silverangel #1+2 Sophie, 3lb3 & Alice3lb1 born at 31+2 on 01/08/11 EMCS
PrincessScrumpy #2 & 3, girls
BB3, #2&3 (#1 DS) DCDA girls born 20.09.11 by EMCS at 37 weeks exactly - Edith-May 5lb 11.5oz and Ayse-Rose 6lb 1oz.

PeelingmyselfofftheCeiling #1+2 EDD, DCDA, Boy and Girl, Born 14 Sept
Twinnerves, DCDA, #2&3, girls Francesca and Isabella, born 18/11/11 EMCS 6lbs 6 oz and 6lbs 9.5oz
xkatyx , ID girls, DC 8,5,9months, ELCS 23/12/11 Rosie and Hollie
Quempin #1&2 EDD 27/1/12, ID boys, T1 5lb5oz, T2 just under 5lb, ELCS 36 weeks
Ravenlocks DCDA, #1&2, 6.01.12 T1 Boy, 4lb 12oz, T2 Girl, 6lb
Tabbycatt, DCDA, 2 boys, DC 2 & 3, 9/1/12 at 36 weeks, VB, T1 5lb 5oz, T2 5lb 11oz
Claireinmodena DCDA, Boy & Girl, DC 3 & 4 (!!), EDD 23/02/12
StinkingBishop 2 &3 DCDA girls EDD .....
RedNellie DC 2&3, DCDA boys, EDD 11/2/12 (??)
DreamingOfPeace, DCDA boys, DC 2 & 3, EDD 19/4/12
BigBoobsAtLast, MCDA boys, DC 2&3 EDD.....
Buonasera, 1&2, DCDA, EDD 22/05/12 (???)
Lilyni DC 4&5, DCDA, EDD 12/06/12
GoingMadTrying, DC 3&4, MCDA, EDD .....

Right, took ages, but had a go at updating our stats thread. I think to get it on the top I'd have to email MNHQ and not sure they'd think that a good use of their time!!! Unless anyone is wiser than me?

I've guessed at lots of people, so please do correct your details or position, and I hope I haven't forgotten anyone, but I am tired today...

claire, you are officially next in line to meet your babies (oh the jealousy! )

To get the stats thread at the top we will need to start a new thread - Twin Club 4!

Thanks for upading Dream. My full details are:

BigBoobsAtLast, MCDA boys, DC 2&3 EDD 23.05.12

Hope you managed some sleep

I so can sympathise with you feeling weary dreaming I have a rotten chest cold so feel awful! The shopping did me in :(

the list looks great my due date 5/8/12 so guess I'm last for know, no more bleeds today fingers crossed it was a one off spoke to midwife who said gp would need to refer me to epu, and that takes about a week, I'm with the consultant again next tuesday so going to leave it until then unless I'm gushing!!! Think I'm probably just a bleeder!!!

MrsStevo, #1 & 2, EDD 23/08/2011, Lincs, MCDA ID,
Tiggersreturn #2+3 EDD 26/09/11 NW London DCDA - not finding out
silverangel #1+2 Sophie, 3lb3 & Alice3lb1 born at 31+2 on 01/08/11 EMCS
PrincessScrumpy #2 & 3, girls
BB3, #2&3 (#1 DS) DCDA girls born 20.09.11 by EMCS at 37 weeks exactly - Edith-May 5lb 11.5oz and Ayse-Rose 6lb 1oz.

PeelingmyselfofftheCeiling #1+2 EDD, DCDA, Boy and Girl, Born 14 Sept
Twinnerves, DCDA, #2&3, girls Francesca and Isabella, born 18/11/11 EMCS 6lbs 6 oz and 6lbs 9.5oz
xkatyx , ID girls, DC 8,5,9months, ELCS 23/12/11 Rosie and Hollie
Quempin #1&2 EDD 27/1/12, ID boys, T1 5lb5oz, T2 just under 5lb, ELCS 36 weeks
Ravenlocks DCDA, #1&2, 6.01.12 T1 Boy, 4lb 12oz, T2 Girl, 6lb
Tabbycatt, DCDA, 2 boys, DC 2 & 3, 9/1/12 at 36 weeks, VB, T1 5lb 5oz, T2 5lb 11oz
Claireinmodena DCDA, Boy & Girl, DC 3 & 4 (!!), EDD 23/02/12
StinkingBishop 2 &3 DCDA girls EDD .....
RedNellie DC 2&3, DCDA boys, EDD 11/2/12 (??)
DreamingOfPeace, DCDA boys, DC 2 & 3, EDD 19/4/12
BigBoobsAtLast, MCDA boys, DC 2&3 EDD 23/05/12
Buonasera, 1&2, DCDA, EDD 22/05/12 (???)
Lilyni DC 4&5, DCDA, EDD 12/06/12
GoingMadTrying, DC 3&4, MCDA, EDD 5/08/12

gah, forgot about mince in fridge needing using so spent my time getting slow cooker on with chocolate chilli rather than resting

I feel terrible for bringing up bf now! I'm so sorry dream, really didn't mean it to come out like that. I stopped around the same time in pregnancy too due to it being sore. And ditto everything claire said.

My stats, I think, should read like this:
RedNellie DC 2&3, DCDA boys, EDD 28/3/12

I started having a panic then seeing a date in February! Ha ha.

OMG am I really next!!!

Wow. It is really happening!

Has anyone thought what to do re feeding? I'm hoping to breastfeed but realistically I think I will havr to mixfeed, anyone know what are the best bottles to help with that? With the dds I used aveng bottles but remember they used to play with the teats a lot. I was planning on reusing them but just realised they are pre BPA times so prob not very safe . Will have to get new new ones, and prob breast pump too, and I thought I had it all covered....

What is everyone planning to do, and what are the twin mummies doing if they havd time to post?

Wow claire not long now :)

when I saw my midwife she said no reason not to bf, she has a lady who has just had twins and does it, she said it takes time to master to get them both on, but she feeds them together to reduce the time, I've never managed to bf and really would like to try but am worried how easy/realistic it is :)

I will be watching the answers to see what everyone thinks:)

I bf the girls - did it exclusively until 12 weeks and then introduced one bottle of formula a day (before bed) in an attempt to get them to sleep longer (it worked!). They are 17 weeks tomorrow and still bf'd all day and night bar the bed time bottle. I however HATED feeding them both together - felt like a milking cow and really unattractive / sore so I quickly decided it would be individual feeding - it's jar at first as you're feeding every 2 hours ish so you only have an hour to yourself between each one (day and night) but I preferred it.

It's bloody hard bfing - the first week or two it's very physically draining and sore with two of them but it gets easier pretty quickly! Now it's like second nature.

I would say go with the flow but don't expect either to be a walk in the park (ff has the issue of cooling down / wind too!) I would however suggest you try them on bottles (ebf or ff) early on so they are not completely dependent on you and you can have a break if needed.

Thanks bb3 and goingmad I have very specific issues (apart from having 2 older childrn that need pscked lunches, clean uniforms etc etc) which make it unlikely for me do bf from both breasts. I know its possible and hardwork to bf twins and bf one from one boob only, but both situations are very demanding, imagine one boob + 2 babies + 2 older kids to look after = extremely sore nipples + worn out mum

I will give it my best shot but realisticallh I cannot expect to be able to exclusively bf, so I am trying to get organised!