Barman! A pint of your finest Gaviscon with a ferrous sulphate chaser if you please! On the February 2012 Baby Bus.

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Right then my lovelies, this thread is going sloooooowly now we have our little secret facebook group

But we need to keep posting here for people who haven't joined our other group, so keep on going!

If anyone wants to join the facebook group, can they ask someone cleverer than me and they will set it up for you!

Old thread is here

Pam, you're not being patronising at all!

I'm just not sure that hypnobirthing is going to be helpful for me personally. I think it would be more helpful in long slow-burn labours, but I just can't see it working for me in the rapid-fire situation it's likely to be again.

Please don't let my fears worry you, though - you're absolutely right, every experience is different. And my hospital were great, I was really happy with the care. A lot of this is dealing with my fears and stresses and issues of lack of control in a medical situation rather than anything else. I'm a natural stress bunny! (type A personality goes with the territory in my specialty).

boring, boring, boring....scan number 12, baby right size, blood flowing properly, blood pressure fine :) NO MORE SCANS!!!!

Booked in for induction on 31st (but still hoping labour will start naturally!). And now I just sit on the bus with all of you normal people and just wait!! it's only 13 days til induction, so it's really not long.

storchenwiege looks lovely ships, i have a hoppediz from last time i'm looking forward to using again with a minimini baby! yay for wrap slings, totally recommend them to one and all!

off to twiddle thumbs for 13 days...and hope to SLEEP tonight and that the 4am wakenings will STOP now!

38+1

I'd love a storchenwiege ships

Sorry Wicket its an occupational hazard for you...too much knowledge! Maybe this labour will be a lot easier and the worst part of it was stressing...I'm hoping for you :)

woowa great your little one is doing so well :) 13 days will fly by

Deardear I know what you mean about bladder twizzling ouch!
I have so much pressure in my fanoire it feels like I could reach up touch the babies head and it would fall out. If only eh?
I'm quite calm about birth I really believe our bodies can do this!

I loved my storch but have bought a girasol for this bubba.
Managed to persuade dh into baby name talk tonight it was slow and painfull.
Woowa glad they have finally agreed you have had enough scans and given you a date, just hope this baby arrives on its own 1st.

i am about to embark on my first hypobirthing experience not tried it with any of my others but cant hurt to give it a whirl. ipod at the read, i am hoping to be a sleep with in 5 mins .
have to admit i had no idea what a storch was and neither did dp so we googled its ass.

whats with this waking up at 5 in the morning???? every morning?????

Came to all this hypno stuff a little late but as have a few anxieties from previous births have watched a few youtubes. Like all the relaxing and breathing stuff never did that last time! Pretending to be a flower maybe not for me though. Was thinking of downloading something from iTunes anyone got any advise?

i have a cd the mongan method the relaxation bit is really good the baby birth bit is a bit hippy for me as in, the thoughts you send your baby now will effect the type of person they will be stuff.
i am reading the book as well, and struggling a bit with that too as i am a big cynic i tell you and its basically positive brain washing. it took me 3 reads of the alan carr book to stop snorting at the way it was written and the religious type of belief in it before i could just accept that it made sense and might work if i gave it a chance. i am my own worst enemy some times.
who wants a pain free nice relaxing labour....oh oh oh me. read this book and listen to this cd. pah no bloody way!

woowa I'm so glad everything is ok with baby and fingers crossed you go naturally.

I'm being induced on 27th due to the OC, I have to go to the DAU for twice weekly monitoring and bloods. I'm rather scared of induction. The mw said that being as though it's number 4 they should just break my waters and we'll be off

I found the hypnobirthing book good (I don't have the CD) because it explained why exactly you have the pains (they call them sensations) you have and explained the process of what the uterus does to help expel the baby. I learned about the vertical and horizontal fibres of the womb and how they move together to open the neck of the womb so the baby can descend. I know I could have learned this anywhere but the book was easy to read. Maybe people already know exactly what happens to our bodies in labour but I didn't. I did like the explanation of how the fear we feel blocks the bodies natural endorphins too. To me now, it seems labour is A LOT of hard work, painful, but not a negative pain but a pain that is helping your baby to be born. I also liked the advice to put the tip of yout tongue at the top of your teeth/base of your upper palate to help relax the lower jaw which in turn relaxes the vaginal muscles...I just have to remember to do that.

yeah pam it tells you to do that in the cd. the tongue thing havent read that part of the book yet but does relax the jaw.

I know I sound all nice and calm now but you see I watch One Born Every Minute and see these other ladies screaming to high heavens and think...oh shit. I will try to remain focused

hahaha is it your first?

Yes Pat I wonder what made you think that...

See, this is another reason why I don't think hypnosis thing is for me. "Sensations"!?!

Meant hypnobirthing - flaming iPhone!

yeah Wicket the ladies on One Born don't look to me like they are experiencing 'sensations' either... the last time I checked the word sensation held only positive connotations

yeah except the one in the home made birthing out fit she could have been having sensations.

thats the whole point of the hypnobirthing i think though, is to change your mind set on the pain so you see it as a positive thing rather than a negative thing to be feared....i think if i am reading it right.

Yes Pat I read it like that too, the pain you feel isn't the result of a broken leg or infected tooth, it will result in the birth of your baby and the contractions (they call them surges) are like waves crashing over you, and you have to 'ride out the wave' and relax and breathe in the spaces in between. I'm just really going to try to focus hard on that idea while I'm in labour. I also did yoga for 20 weeks and learned how to breathe properly...I'll probably be screaming for an epidural and all my yoga/hypnobirthing will have gone out the window! It helps me now though, helps me with the fear a bit

i actually get really excited when i first go in to labour. its only the when it hits the second stage that its all about the epidural' s (beautiful things wouldn't be without them).
the last time i walked in to the hospital and was like i want an epidural please and my mw was, but your doing so well and really in control of the pain etc. i was like that because you are going to give me an epidural. i was totally happy because i was in control of what was happening and what was going on next but if i hadnt gotten the epidural when i did i probably would have fallen to pieces.
i fully intend to do the same this time even with the hypnobirthing tbh it will be a nice surprise if i dont want to but i think i prob will.

Lol pat!

I didn't get any breaks between my "surges"/"sensations" and have been told to expect it to be even faster this time, so that's why I'm not thinking it'll work for me. One of my issues at the moment is that I'm scared it'll be too fast for an epidural - obs yesterday was just re-emphasising about getting my ass in as soon as I start contracting, to give me the best chance of getting one. I fully agree, they are beautiful things!

I read the hypnobirthing book and tried some of the relaxing exercises in the month before ds was born, and certainly remained very calm throughout labour - the first 12 hours were quite fun actually especially the two-tier beanbag and the pool in the MLU. I think it helped that I'm used to really bad period pains (as in passing out from them) so labour was a doddle in comparison. And I'd get a minute or two break in between each contraction. And it wasn't going to go on for days!

Admittedly I then needed an epidural for my SPD when I had to get out of the pool, and the 40-min wait wasn't fun at all but that wasn't the contractions. And the next 20 hours was pretty calm again.

I didn't like the hippy 'anything natural is good' tone of the books but the chapters on how your body works and on ways to relax I think are well worth reading. A friend of a friend gave birth while in a coma, which proves your body can get on with it by itself - I declined my mate's offer to bash me over the head though! But will be aiming to doze through as much of labour as possible this time...

with my first i asked the guy with the needle to marry me he said he gets that a lot.
sounds tricky wicket. can i ask why you just didnt go for an elective from the beginning?

I told my anaesthetist I'd have married him if I wasn't already!

Erm, I would have had to go some to persuade my obstetrician without a real medical indication, and I'm all too aware of the potential complications so I agree with her that on balance I'm best without unless some real indication eg breech presentation outweighs the risks. As I said to her yesterday, I'm not asking her for a section but if an indication crops up I'll be perfectly happy to go with it.