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December 2011: Scratching, squeezing, hatching and latching...

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LittleMissHumbuggery · 10/12/2011 22:43

...and those of us left are doing a fair bit of bitching:o

I wonder if we could get a [pompoms] going on? Do we have the energy for a campaign?Wink

Right, come on! We're a third of the way through the month and Nickelbabe needs new recruits for her advent thread. Get squeezing:o

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KateKringle · 14/12/2011 14:23

Congratulations falala It's nice to keep hearing about all these births...it means even if nothing is happening here yet, at least it's one closer to mine arriving Xmas Smile

Another 'me' post coming...

I woke up feeling very fed-up and gloomy about everything this morning. DH has gone back into work for the day since nothing is happening here, lots ishappening there, and he can use the leave once the baby is born instead. We were hoping that him being in London would tempt fate but no such luck so far!

My mood then got worse when I switched on my phone to receive a text from my Mum saying she'd heard (via my sister) about my fall down the stairs and was 'disappointed that I hadn't told her about it'. Grrrr! I only told my sister because she happened to text shortly afterwards and ask how I was. Since me and DD were fine I didn't go out of my way to tell Mum because she'd only worry. I texted back to tell her that (in a fairly stroppy manner!) and have since had a suitably contrite reply. But it did piss me off at the time. Hormonal over-reaction on my part?

As for messages from people. My Dad pitched it just right today. We haven't been in touch for a few days now and he sent me a text saying: 'It's not that I don't care or that I'm indifferent, I just don't want to join the chorus of people asking if there's any news'. Nice one Dad Xmas Grin

MW appointment tomorrow. Hoping for a sweep if baby is low enough.

mopsytop · 14/12/2011 14:25

I am lucky so far. Noone has asked if my baby has come yet.

AnAirOfHope · 14/12/2011 15:44

Its doesn't get any better once the baby is here - you will get everyone and their dog talking to you about your new baby.

We went shopping yesterday and i got asked 5 times how old is she by total strangers. Once you have a baby you suddenly become public property and will be asked the same questions about a thousand times by different people you dont know - its not great if your shy like me and go bright red when answering Sad

I also saw the women from toddler group and she asked was Hope mine! I was so tempted to say no i stole her from outside or that i picked her up on special in the store Grin. Then she went on to say she didn't know i was even pg so i guess i haven't been to toddler group for 9 months Shock

Sorry everyone is being bugged by well meaning people.

Soft play was closed due to a private party cue major tantrum so we went to town on the bus, had lunch out and then got three sticker books and came home Sad

MerrySorelip · 14/12/2011 15:48

No baby here yet, either. I'm actually looking forward to the induction. It means that by Tuesday next week, I will have had the baby. Naturally I'm not this positive, but I don't want to be a grumpy bitch to DH when all he'll want to do is make me feel better. I'm saving all my grump for after baby makes an appearance. 40+8 today.

Oi, I hope your son is doing well today. I can't even imagine how scared you must have been.

Congratulations Jingle and Falala!

chocolateyclur · 14/12/2011 15:56

Am 40 +11. Have had 4 sweeps. Booked for induction tomorrow and am gutted about it - I had a medicalised, traumatic birth with my DS and was really looking forward to MLU and a nice experience. Have been told that if I go with medical management I will still have to give birth in hospital no matter what, so may as well get it over and done with Sad

I'm 2cm dilated, not very effaced in the slightest considering gestation, and just feeling "blah". Still got tonight to go, but I just feel like I need to let go of that grain of hope for my own sanity now.

DarcieandSnowballsmum · 14/12/2011 16:52

Hey Ladies

See the MW this afternoon and had a sweep - talk about uncomfortable when you've got a head between your knees lol. Anyway...lots has changed since last night - cervix is no longer posterior, 60% effaced, 2cm dilated and membranes bulging and she can feel Snowballs head Xmas Grin so need to keep on my fee & upright in the hope my waters go or I fully efface & start to really dilate....really hope this means something otherwise booked in next weds for another sweep Smile

festivefiggy · 14/12/2011 17:00

chocolate welcome and sorry to hear you are in the same boat as so many of the rest of us, me included am 40+5 today and waiting for my first sweep on Friday. Darcies sounds like you might be getting there :)

I know what people mean about becoming public property went out at lunchtime to get my Anti Biotics for my UTI and stopped for coffee had the usual "ooh when you due" and "have you tried this/that", they very nice and all and am sure will be worse once he actually graces us with his presence. Saw someone from ante natal today she was due yesterday and was pushing round her little girl who she has 3 days early was soooo jealous. she said it wasnt that bad an experience overall but then she had a nice 7lber i have a feeling FiggyJnr is a giant.

Not sure what is going on with this thread its missing from my I'm on list and couldnt find it all earlier when looked the normal list, anyone else having the same?

Hohohomouse · 14/12/2011 17:35

Hello ladies,
I am mid induction here and my lord it's very boring. I think I have had one tightening here but nothing regular or to write home about. There's still another 18 hours to go on the pessary though so I remain hopeful that we may get something happening/tonight or tomorrow. We are coughing up for a private room until we get moved to labour ward and it's so worth it and we managed to escape to Pizza express for lunch so I don't feel too much like a prisoner yet.
Can anyone describe what early contractions are like, I really don't know what to get excited by...
Go darcies and snowball sounds very positive for you!

DarcieandSnowballsmum · 14/12/2011 17:39

Mouse early contractions for me with Darcie felt like menstrual cramps or when you get a stitch! fingers crossed that labour kicks in for you tonight Smile

Hohohomouse · 14/12/2011 17:53

sorelip and chocolate possible induction buddies. I know the last few hours/day are pretty hideous and letting go of what you had hoped for your birth is not easy but I promise you, it's easier when it starts happening for real. The waiting around is awful but at least it's progress and every poke, prod, exam means you get that little bit closer. I have been in tears for last few days as have been really scared but when the reality hits it's not as bad as you think. I will keep posting here for as long as I can if that will reassure you x

mopsytop · 14/12/2011 17:55

Thanks hoho. My mum just gave me a stern talking to and told me not to listen to horror stories and just go with the flow as there is no point worrying about things that may or may not happen. Just to stay in the moment! So I am following her advice. Hope it continues to go well for you ...

MerrySorelip · 14/12/2011 18:06

Thank you Hoho. I think I knew all along that he would take his time. I hope you get some progress soon!

bennybenbear · 14/12/2011 18:20

Thanks Hoho, that is reassuring as I'm on countdown to induction on Friday too.
If you can keep posting that would be fab (though totally understand if you can't!).

Good luck to all you others about to be induced and those still waiting

msbaublestwinkle · 14/12/2011 18:39

mouse early contractions for me feel like period pains too. Hope the pessary works fast for you!

chocolateyclur · 14/12/2011 18:55

Thanks Hohoho - hope it goes well (and quickly!) for you.

aethelfleda · 14/12/2011 19:07

hoho, there are about 50,000 different ways of feeling contractions! With the DDs I got mild period-like pains followed by increasingly long and forceful tight feelings in the top of my bump . Baby quietened down a lot compared to the usual rhumba. One friend just got low backache that came and went but got worse. Another got regular worsening aches all over, but no tightenings, went to hospital and was 8cm dilated... Another got nothing at all then a tremendous desire to poo, and had baby on the loo at home!!! ( she told her DS about this, he now has great kudos at school as all the kids think his birth story is hysterical!) glad you are able to think positive and it's great your LO will soon be here!

Good luck all you who are about to kick off, and let's hope tinsel will be back with another birth story to spur us on (darcies I bet you a mars bar you'll be holding a babe in 24 hours!)

Hohohomouse · 14/12/2011 19:48

Waaaahhhh! BP is up so they have moved us out of the nice room we were in onto a noisy ward. I can see they want to keep an eye on me but we have forked out £200 on that room - and what a surprise, no refund. Bloody furious.
Which of course is probably driving up blood pressure that bit more...
Aside from that, pretty constant under carriage type period pain now but no tightenings/contractions.
DH is getting kicked out in 10 mins as well. Meh x

DarcieandSnowballsmum · 14/12/2011 20:00

Aethel I'll keep you to that mars bar Smile

Mouse That's terrible. Why can't they monitor your BP in the private room? and considering you've not been in it all that long, they'd consider giving you even a part refund?!

aethelfleda · 14/12/2011 20:00

Ooh, how annoying for you hoho. Hope your Bp settles a bit- maybe you can get a "credit note" for the room ie remind them that you shelled out and maybe when the birth is done, if you need to stay in could they please hoink you back into a single room again as you've already paid? and hopefully they will let DH back in if anything happes overnight.

Ps £200 ??!!!!?! You can get rooms in the Hilton for that! You have GOT to be in London with rates like that...either that or it's a Loong time since I was in hospital with DD1 when it was £40 a night (realises it's been 6 years...oh. Feeling old!)

festivefiggy · 14/12/2011 21:11

If I can convince them to give me a private room itll be £120 or £150 en suite it will ne my Xmas present to myself Grin they did say if you get moved out they will refund you am outraged for you they trying to not refund you. Big Angry to them

ChristmasPullyWoolOver · 14/12/2011 21:11

Good luck with those inductions ladies!

hohoho that's terrible about the private room, defo ask for a credit note if you can.

Have been manic all day - possible sign of impending labour ?

Quick question for all you BF experts - I thought I'd try expressing earlier (by hand and then gave the electric pump a whirl) to see what would happen...err, nothing , not a drop! Is this OK? I thought maybe a little might come out?

msbaublestwinkle · 14/12/2011 21:56

pully yes, some women can't express antenatally at all, it makes no difference to production once baby does arrive.

PludolphTheRedNosedReindeer · 14/12/2011 21:58

Apologies for the massiveness of this catch-up. I've tried to highlight names, so no-one has to wade through the whole lot (although there is some Doctor Who at one point!)

Congratulations, nickelbabe, jinglebum (I did laugh at your ordering kitchens while in labour! Smile),Falalababy (another well'ard woman - well done!)

aethelfleda, thanks for the reiteration of the mother-of-two children advice. I'd heard it before, but the specifics about feeding's being more settled at 6-8 weeks

kri5ty, how is the colic/screaming going? I hope it's easing a bit. If it turns out to be reflux, a friend of mine, whose two had very bad reflux, said carrying them about in the sling helped, as they were upright. It was hard on the back, but easier on the ears, heart and of course the baby!
Sorry you are having the colic, too, Sleighbells!

msb, hope you got your Christmas decorations up and that DD2 is settling a bit.

seven, don't worry about your DS's wanting his daddy and not you - that's actually brilliant! Not only is DH useful (Grin), but he and DS can bond, and the fact that DS is calling for his daddy actually means you have done a good job, and DS is not afraid of losing you. Last night, DS got his granny first (I dind't hear a thing), then called for me and got me at about 3, then called for daddy immediately afterwards, as though he knew he couldn't call for me again. I felt a bit sorry for him, but was grateful, too!

fusam, mopsytop, Tinselperion, DarcieandSnowball, if it makes you feel better about the pains, I probably had about a week's worth of on-off teasing pains, which may have contributed to the speed of things. Keep a pad on your bed!

Oh, Oimistletoe, poor baby! What a start! Your decision not to tell some people, though, sounds wise and kind; you're great parents already - forgoing potential comfort in favour of your child's future happiness.

Xmas Grin at figgy's "Yum Yum Cervix tea". Sorry it wasn't pre-laced with antibiotics for the infection - grr...

AirofHope: a 1-handed game I once played with DS on the floor (while I was busy with sth else) involved stuffing cars up his trouser legs and getting him to stand up so they all rattled out. It kept him happy for a good 20mins! If you can't manage the floor, there's stuffing them down his elasticated waistband baggy trousers as he stands next to you (as you feed Hope).... Or read a book. Which is more educational. Xmas Wink

lovely pics, everyone!

Mmmcheese, I have a bump, too, and have actually hade an important philosophical discovery about it: it's called the Bump and Baby Paradox - sounds like the sort of thing which migh get the TARDIS into trouble, doesn;t it?! Let's just be proud of being intergalactic disruptors, all of us...

LittleMissHumbuggery, speaking of paradoxes, maybe it would help to change your name, as you seem to be piling up the bad vibes, with the teeth troubles and headaches and craving for naughty things (which you're clearly unhappy with)... Sad Are you sure you don't want to be a LittleMissXMan?!

Brilliant responses, CherryPi, especially the sarky one about the high pain threshold!
KateKringle, your dad is a star, for his sensitive anti-news-demanding! Smile

Good luck for tonight and tomorrow, chocolateyclur. I really hope the experience redeems the past for you, as that's a horrible regret to have hanging over you. Wishing you the best interventions tomorrow, and especially that, with this being planned, it all works out better for you. Smile
(Hohohomouse, that's so kind of you to hold hands. I can't imagine wanting to update a live birth thread during labour - that's dedication! ... oh, and have jus seen the business about the refund - good that you have some means to vent! live-birth away!)

Sorry for typos; I;ve been writing with DD on my lap after she fell asleep during a feed and woudn;t show any more interest. Breastfeeding is still a bit painful as she has DH's rosebud mouth (which looks odd on a man with such a leonine head) and it doens't seem to open wide enough to get the big mouthfuls of breast that DS used to get. ON the other hand, due to DS's neonatal jaundice, we didn't really start bf properly with him till he was about a week old, so I guess we missed this very-newborn stage. I am most certainly persevering, though, as I am too lazy to bottle feed Xmas Grin

DH and my mother still haven't recovered from the shock, though thanks so many of you for asking! My mother is still tormented by what-ifs about an alternative birth, in which she was alone during the day, with DH out at work and DS awake and rampaging around (probably scared witless, despite all my bedtime stories about Mummy's tummy squeezing and pushing the baby out into the bright, bright hospital/ambulance - I was covering scenarios, you see)

I'm feeling a bit relieved, actually, that I didn't have to go up to St Thomas's on the train (or - ugh - by mini-cab), festively laughing contracting all the way ha ha ha ha. A midwife came out to us about an hour after DD was born, and delivered the effin' ENORMOUS placenta (which DS later nearly stepped in), so we never went near a hospital, despite the two ambulances obligingly parked outside (protocol seems to be one if needed for mother and the second if needed for baby).

The bedsheets were a gory mess, but thankfully, adages are true, and blood is thicker than water, and it didn't make it through the mattress topper. After the stitching was done (I finally learned how to use gas & air properly, having thought it useless with DS, as I clearly wasn't desperate enough for it that time), I had nice clean sheets and lay down for a sleep with Helena. DH joined me later (poor man was emotionally knackered).

I guess I would have to plan a homebirth, for any hypothetical "next time", but, equally, any risk factors would mean I'd have to have an early induction in order to be sure of getting into hospital, so I remain a delivery-method agnostic.

ChristmasPullyWoolOver · 14/12/2011 22:22

plu your post is epic, am in awe Grin.

Thanks mrsb, you're a star!

Tinselperion · 15/12/2011 01:47

Dear Ladies,

I am Tyel's DH. She implored me to write briefly to you all this evening and send you her best. Our baby son was born this evening at 9.44pm, by C-Section. He is a nine pounds, eight ounces snuffly creature with lovely blond hair and blue eyes. Mother and baby are doing fine. Needless to say our home-birth dream didn't pan out exactly as we had hoped, but I am totally in awe of my wife dealing with what turned out to be a 32 hour labour with double epidural (the first didn't work), 3 times failed trace on baby's head and 4 times failed canula insertion. At one point in the anti-natal ward I was so frustrated that the first time I heard from one of the midwives that a doctor was on the ward I marched out to collar him and asked him to see Tyel immediately. The context was a lot of blood loss and a midwife who was more concerned with giving Tyel anti-sickness injections (she was vomiting continually throughout the whole ordeal) and kept saying that blood loss was 'normal, it's fine...'. In the end with Tyel's tearful eyes beseeching me to get her a c-section I cracked and hunted that doctor down. When he came he took one look at her bloody knickers and examined her to find her 4 cm dilated. He then sent us straight to labour ward, and i'm sure Tyel will tell you the rest (I don't want to spoil all the juicy bits). All I will say is that my new hero is Dr Warwick Pepper, the utterly brilliant anaesthetist who corrected Tyel's failed epidural from his colleague, and what is more, did it while she was on her side! As a result the last hour before the C section was totally pain free, and that was with syntometrine cranking up the contractions.

One final comment... I'm so grateful to all of you on this thread who have massively supported Tyel when I have been lost for words or unable to offer totally convincing reassurance as to the source of her various aches and pains. You have really made a huge difference to our lives, and I hope that this continues to be so. For those of you yet to have your babies: good luck, and I am sure there is a Dr Pepper out there for you.

I get weepy every time I remember that I have a beautiful baby son.

Over and out.

Mr Tyel