The We Will Brook No Argument for a totally boring and uneventful pregnancy, in which we shall bloom, and a pain-free birth thread, part 3!

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Hands around a mixture of V-shaped pillows, pregnancy pillows, and re-arranges the glittery vom buckets ready.

Gets the jelly snakes going, along with some Cadburys for good measure, and a strategically placed fruit bowl to disguise the unhealthy choices.

Flicks the duster round, sinks down into a comfy sofa and awaits the rest...

Hello everyone, I am completely shattered already and it is only Monday! I am using the fact that I have my first proper midwife appointment on Friday and I am hoping I might get to hear a heartbeat ( I will be 17+1)?

Hi everyone, glad to see it's just as chatty over here as on the ttc thread

I've only read through quickly (looking foward to laying down on the sofa and watching junior apprentice in 5 mins so sorry to not have much to say for myself.

I was thinking of having an private early scan for reassurance. Not so sure now, but will definitely wait til 8 weeks if I do.

x

Thanks to everyone for the holiday reassurance. I do think we'll go for it. Might buy a sling before we go though, just in case DH ends up carrying a suitcase plus baby home!

I can see both sides of the early scan argument. I had an 8 week scan, and whilst I loved the scan itself my absolute fav thing was the effect it had on DH! Thats def the moment the pg became real for him (so he finally twigged my nausea was real too!). However I also see Dream's point that if you find twins that early on it could really add to your anxiety, specifically because of the risk of vanishing twin. It's a tough call. Biscuits is totally right about the decreased risk of mc for singletons with a heartbeat at 8 weeks tho, and I found that really comforting.

Congrats to Hawthers on passing 37 weeks and 6lbs! That's setting a very high bar for all the rest of us to follow! Excellent No Brooking!

Sorry to hear some people are feeling so tired, it really sneaks up on you sometimes! I can spend a whole day running around doing what I would normally do, and then suddenly out of nowhere tiredness hits like a ton of bricks! I'm learning to pace myself better tho. I hope all the tired preggos feel much better in the morn!

I'm No Brooking for Generic's hcg results to be reassuring! Also, who's next on the scan list? I'm not up until the 19th so there must be others before me?

There's three scanees on Thursday- too, ??meconium and ??jaggy can't remember but too is a definite and listed her scanathon buddies last page I think. Plus pomme is on Friday with ? Someone else. Baby brain... I'm rubbish.

To be fair, I'd have tried to go private for an early scan, and hadn't even considered the twin possibility, but also didn't have a sky high hcg like generic, it was just that Dh said no.

Wouldn't worry too much about the sling scream or you'll end up taking Autumn some clothes etc etc too won't you?! Though if she put in an appearance then I guess nappies and clothes would be easier to buy than a sling. But if she was that early and little she'd be too small for some slings- its 7lb or 8lb for babybjorn active. Anyway, I think you'll have a lovely babyfree break!!!!

Right Dream pics are up of me at 27 weeks with DD, and as I am now at 26+3, quite a size difference! I have had a xmas party so can't catch up right now and I am out tomorrow evening to. Hope everyone is well :)

I can't get on to see your pics purple! You have to make the picture viewable as well as your mn profile, or is it just my phone?! Have a good party.

I am back from party, it is all public, but I have had to move my profile so could be being slow.

Should work now as I could click through :)

Right I think I have caught up!
Brooking for fantastic results for you Cola, would you like multiples?
Exciting about scanathon, I can't believe we have had so many! Must be the powers of brooking, obviously.
I was wondering about you Hawthers what a great position to be in, I am so pleased for you :)

I had an early scan and it really made me feel so much better, my main thought was that if I lost this one, that at least I would have a picture of what was there, whereas when I had my other losses I didn't have anything. Although, vanishing twin syndrome sounds awful!

As for holidays, I went away for 10 days with Dh and it was fantastic, I was 33-34 weeks and we have some of our fondest memories as a couple from that time, lots of eating out, trips to the cinema and it was a city so might have ordered takeaway at 2am when I woke up hungry a couple of time too

I was looking at babies last night as there were two at my party and I couldn't actually believe I am going to have one. I was also looking at pics of when DD was first born and I still can't quite believe it!

Dream I have just started to call the baby Hugo when Dh is in a good mood and discreetly too, hoping it might pay off. Also encouraging him to take the 11 year old to see the movie of Hugo when it is at our cinema, see if that helps

I hope I haven't missed anything too obvious out? Dd is with the childminder and I am supposed to be doing some studying, the reality is that I might be going back to bed as I am tired!

I hope everyone is well and I hope you can see my pics :)

Well I had my first midwife appointment today. All is well and I heard the heartbeat for the first time.

I asked about why I've got a consultant appointment and it is because my BP was too high at my booking appointment. This was purely because of my needle phobia leading to panic attack but got referred anyway just in case. Today was in the normal range again (no needles, coincidence much?) so should just be a formality. The mw did ask for the appointment to have been prior to today so that she could make a decision on where we go from here but it isn't until mid Jan, after my next scan so that worked out well

Lovely hearing that heartbeat! The best thing about my weekly monitoring is hearing it.
You will breeze through your consultant appointment don't worry, I am needlephobic so understand what that is like! I use emla cream to numb my arms and that helps a lot with the anxiety, lloyds sell it for about £3 or you can get it prescribed, just ask for dressings as you need them :)

Hello all-
Back at the laptop today so had a chance to catch up - everyone has been very busy! Congrats on the heartbeat jen, very exciting.

Copngrats on your bfp as well littlefriend and broccoli. Early scans do reassure but would agree with the 8 week thing - seeing the heart beat on the screen for me helps so much more than all the blood tests etc. And its very exciting - amazing to think how much develops in those first few weeks.

Could do with a bit of advice re MIL (not trying to have a MIL rant, but just an offload...). She was over at the weekend and I hear her tell MrT about the daughter of a friend of hers, who is expecting her 3rd. And to quote 'but its another boy' complete with her 'isn't it unfortunate' facial expression - it was the 'but' which really got me. Already warned MrT that I will explode if she says anything like that to me/about me. Any ideas? She may not say anything at all to me but can feel my hackles rising already...

thank you for the warm welcome
am about 7 weeks now. didn't go to work yesterday in the end and then dd ended up being off too, with poorly ears
still pukey and feel rubbish - will catch up later but trying to have an hours kip before booking appt with mw and nightshift tonight

tilder, DH is cross with me because I went ballistic when he repeated that his mother was delighted we're having two boys, and had done a 'Make a wish' thing we'd have a boy... I ranted about 'for heaven's sake, I would have been equally delighted with two girls, who CARES what they are if they're healthy' etc etc.... He kept trying to point out she meant well, but she should have made a bl*dy wish for healthy babies, not a bl*dy boy!!!!!! (I might still be a bit cross about this, and almost wish I was having two girls just to spite her...!!!). She also outright asked me if this pregnancy was planned when DH told her I was pg at about 6 weeks (as my parents knew as they'd been to visit, and I was vomiting well by that point so he rang and told his mum). Er, yes, DH is a GP, I'm a paediatric physio, we have enough knowledge between us to avoid an unplanned pregnancy. silly cow. So I have no advice, as I would come out with said rant above . Or something very sarcastic... Maybe you could tell her now you'd love another boy before you find out? Or get dh too? I find minumum contact with the in-laws best!! (ooops, that was a MIL rant....)

purple, I mention at least once a day I want to call one Sebastian. I am prepared to be flexible on the other name as long as I get my way with one! Incidentally, DH didn't think Magnus was an awful name, he straight away said it's Scandinavian too, but also hadn't thoughtof the Maggie nickname possibility! I like the Hugo tactic though, I think I wouldn't be half as close with Sebastian if I hadn't started this campaign in my last pg!!! Also tired. The kicking at night is keeping me awake. A lot. Or needing a wee. Or just not being asleep. Yor bump is definitely bigger this time- higher and rounder already! I have found a pic of me at 26 weeks last time, and 22- but they're holiday pics so not actucally of the bump, but you can kind of tell. Will add when I get nearer that point in the bump-comparison spirit. My bump currently measures 3 weeks ahead of a singleton, but been told to expect it to increase from that.

DH met 3 year old identical twin boys yesterday. He said they were really sweet. Born at 27 weeks, and they were told they were non-ID (he said he couldn't tell them apart at all!). He came home from work insisting I take it easy and wanting me to get my leaving date sorted at work for mat leave ASAP. Think it's finally hit home for him these twins could arrive early, so thank goodness for that mum who took her cute twins to the GP!!!!!

Hello everyone else!

Thanks for the tip dream. Have been trying to avoid hte subject with the ILs given previous comments made (poor grandaughter from SIL being the only girl all those boys, so nice to have a granddaughter etc) that I didn't want to provoke anything. It was just her aparent view that somehow it was sad or a shame that the lady was having a third boy, as if that wasn't as good as having a girl. Really wound me up! I do get asked a lot more with this pg if I know what I'm having and I tend to answer 'a baby', which tends to make them a bit puzzled. Tis true though.

Surprised your bump was only 3weeks ahead of a singleton in size, am guessing will grow a lot from now. Do you use any kind of back support?

I have a physio appointment on Friday when I hope I can get a back support, or some advice on which to get! Typically, my back is much better after a weekend of vomming and resting... Still, mopping floors has wound it up today, and work tomorrow and thurs so should be suitably uncomfortable by Friday!!! Your in-laws sound as irritating as mine. I'll have to wind mine up by saying I'd like to have one more and see if we have another little girl I would like that, a fourth child I mean, but dh will never, never agree I know, the bump size will most likely take off now, but it gives me another thing to worry about!!!! They were growing fine on the 20 week scan so I should relax but I can't

Bless you with your MILs Dream and Tilder - that sort of thing would totally wind me up too - I don't know that I could come up with something clever enough as a retort but how nice to have something ready for just such a situation!

And as for asking if it was planned etc - even if it wasn't - is it anyone else's business? I would love to have the guts to say something like 'well DH and I have always had a spontaneous and wild sex life and, well, there was that time when we were at x event at your house and one thing led to another when we both nipped out to the loo - and well... you wouldn't think you'd get away with it there on the landing where anyone might have seen us but, here we are!' Or something like that. I never would though. I would most likely mumble, turn red and then rant afterwards about how I'd got to my 30's without getting pregnant so I think I know how to not get pregnant!

It's a bit like when the mw asked me if we'd thought about contraception about 1 week after ds was born. Apart from the fact that my significant downstairs situation was quite a contraceptive you just feel like saying 'I'm 30, and this is my first child and I've been with DH for more than 10 years. I would say we've pretty much got contraceptive sussed don'tya think?'

Anyway - now I'm ranting!

Hope everyone else is ok xx

good one biscuits love the landing chat.

i tend to answer 'i should think it is perfectly obvious i'm having a baby' when asked by 'well meaning' idiots people what i'm having.

mil doesn't speculate on the sex of the baby and is generally a legend but this is her 11th GC so she is very blase about it and not particularly excited/interested. seems like the other millions of GC's she has has taken the excitement out of it all which is a bit of a shame as its only our second. oh well i guess you can't have it all - they are either too interested or not interested enough!

Oh, I'm laughing at my phone like a mentalist at the landing comment biscuits, I wish I'd said that!!!!

Loving the Christmas name change Hawthers

Just re-read my last post and it didn't make much sense, sorry must have been really tired! Today was even busier, a couple of people commented on how tired I looked so definitely an early night. Although I am not actually getting much sleep ATM what with being uncomfortable trying to stay on my left side or trotting to the loo and then lying awake thinking of random stuff (like water births last night!)

Hi wants I read it as you're using your mw appointment to get through the week. I sympathize with the

Sorry, hit post by accident...

Not sleeping, I struggle. I don't care what position I lie in, I think your left is only for when you get to the enough bump weight to cause vena cava compression stage, but good to try annd get into the habit. I've got sore shoulders for no obvious reason so I'm wriggling round a lot trying to get comfortable, waking for a wee, new mice in loft crisis, at dd coughing, and staying awake worrying about pg related things. are you planning a water birth then? At home or in hospital?

Hello hawthers, very festive name! you'd be very noisy coming if decked with bells, you'd be no good at catching our mice!!! I would take less interested over too interested. Less to argue about, sure she'll love all her grandchildren!

Oh, and I'm.sat down watching my tummy rippling and feet poking out everywhere etc etc. Dh had just got home and deigned to look for 10 seconds, proclaimed 'what little wrigglers!' And wandered off. Totally unreasonable I know but I wish he'd be a bit more interested!!!

Hi all! Sorry for being a lurker for a few days - have been so busy, but have been reading everyone's post.

Hawthers, love the seasonal name change, and glad to hear you're doing well! The weight sounds great - sounds like you're a no brooking expert :)

Generic, will be brooking for brilliant results tomorrow! Do let us know - I'll try and lurk in between lessons...

Dream and Tilder - Urgh, MILs! Luckily for me my MIL is lovely, but my step-MIL... she started off by bugging us about when we'd start a family (we've been together 8 yrs, married for 2+). Her son had children very young and before getting married, which probably helps in the nagging stakes! She asked us if we were at least "practicing" at some point - . Obviously she's overjoyed we're now pregnant, but she's desperate for a girl, so has been bugging us to find out if we'll find out the sex! Even if we do I'm tempted not to tell her I don't think I've been subjected to the "Was it planned?!" question yet - though I like your style Biscuits!

I'm also not getting much sleep Wants and Dream. Not sure why - especially seen as DH bought me one of the giant maternity pillows from Mothercare this weekend, meaning I'm no longer fighting a plethora of normal sized pillows throughout the night! It's very comfy, but I'm still not managing :(

Nothing much to report here. Feeling more movement I think, but nothing that's a definite kick or prod yet.

Oh, and that I'm super hormonal - cried because I stepped on a cat's tail at the weekend, which is pretty impressive. I also well up whenever I hear those blasted Military Wives on the radio/tv/wherever.

On the plus side, DH is being lovely. After realising I now only have one dress I would be able to get in at Christmas, and about a zillion parties to go to (though most with different people, so I could get away with washing it madly a lot!), he helped me find some new clothes in the Choice discount store when I found a maternity rail. I now have some of those lovely jersey panelled trousers Biscuit - they're wonderful! Combined with all the clothes I've bought along the years in the wrong size, I now have just about enough to last me the working week - hurrah.

dream - tummy rippling - how amazing! Can't wait to see that!