Due in May: the 2nd trimester, more glowing and less throwing

[Yorky]

Before the other thread bursts!
Thanks Miko for the title!

Well, after my nice scan on Friday things have taken a turn for the worse...

On saturday I started getting dark brown bloody mucus / discharge on wiping (sorry TMI). It has been happening ever since, but not every time I go to the loo, just a few times a day, and not enough to go on my underwear etc. I don't think it is really increasing or decreasing the amount. I phoned my mw on sunday and she told me to phone the out of hours GP. The nurse there told me she wasn't over-worried but to discuss with my GP in the next 24 hours. She suggested it might be a UTI.

So I went to the GP this morning, with a urine sample and a sample of the discharge (which was a bit grim, but in a ziplock bag!). He said it isn't a UTI, and said they'd just been fobbing me off with that. He listened for the baby, but obviously it is early to hear the heart with the doppler, and the placenta is anterior, so all he could hear was the placenta. He said the placenta sounded good, but that at the end of the day if the baby had died, the placenta might carry on as normal for a few days anyway. He did say not hearing the heartbeat was meaningless at this point, so not to worry about that. He said I should have a scan.

I phoned the EPU just now, and I have a scan at 2pm.

Absolutely terrified I'm going to lose the baby. Having miscarried in June, and then had a chemical pg in August, I'm obviously feeling pretty bad.

Has anyone else had this and been OK???

Oh Catsy, how scary. And so cruel after your lovely scan on Friday.
I'm sorry I have no experience to reassure you but fingers crossed tightly for you, hope 2pm is good news again.
You deserve things to go well this time

Oh catsy I'm so sorry I know how horrible and scary that can be. Do a serach on mn for 'bleeding in pregnancy' or similar and you'll find loads of people saying they have had the same it doesn't mean you will lose the baby. I know lots of people who have bled regularly in pregnancy and had healthy babies. Keeping fingers and toes and everything crossed for you, let us know what happens xxx

Welcome luckynumber :) I think 'unplanned' babies can just be the loveliest things. We can never have full control over our lives and these things always happen for a reason. Bet #3 will be a huge blessing to your family. I definitely don't think you're crazy...dh and I both come from massive families and love having loads of people around; siblings are the best gift for your exisiting dc imo :)
Don't be embarrassed among friends- it's none of their business if your baby was 'planned' or not and you have more than enough love to give to it :)

Thanks cupcake, that makes me feel a lot better, and I'm definitely feeling a lot more excited about this new arrival now and learning to switch off from the work / finance thing, I will just wait and see, no point stressing about it now.

So sorry catsy to hear about your weekend, I will be thinking of you at 2pm and keeping my fingers crossed.

catsy - so sorry to hear about your worries, I really really hope the scan went well.

Welcome lucky! Glad to hear you're feeling more excited, obviously the shock is beginning to wear off!

I'm feeling rather hormonal and emotional today but fine generally.

Catsy - hope it went ok.

I have 12 week scan tomorrow. Am excited, but nervous of it not being ok, problems. Have lots of symptoms esp nausea. Am hoping this is a good sign.

Catsy How did the 2pm scan go? I'm crossing my fingers it went well.

Luckynumber I too have 2 DDs and am expecting DC3 after taking the morning after pill in the first 2 weeks of living in our new house! I'm taking a peculiar pleasure from hiding it from close friends. I'm going to wait until someone asks and then say I'm just a bit fat! Then I'll tell them.
DP is quite depressed about it to be honest. DD1 was unplanned and I think he feels as if his life is not the one he wanted. It's making me feel a bit sad and I pity this poor baby. I'm sure it'll all turn out OK in the end, but he's barely speaking to me at the minute.

pelvic floor

Harecare - there's quite a lot of similarities in our situation aren't there. My dp isn't exactly thrilled at the prospect of another baby, he's 11 years older than me so he's going to have to work way past retirement age to support these 3 when they are teenagers! And his current job will come to an end in 2013, so he needs to find some kind of new career... But he's trying to laugh about the situation I think as a way of dealing with it! Even so, he's not the type to be soppy about babies, so most days we don't really discuss the pregnancy.
However, I am sure that once the baby arrives he will fall in love with it and things will work out fine (apart from us being old and exhausted!) and I'm sure it will be the same for you. I think a lot of men just don't have the emotional attachment to babies that we do, while they are growing inside us, it's not so real for them and there aren't the hormones! But it will be fine given a bit more time to sink in I'm sure.

Catsy - thinking of you and how the scan went.

Catsy hope it went well today. fingers crossed for you.

we had our 12 week scan last week. Just relieved there was really a baby "in there"! (well it is the first time my claim has been verified by a third party!!) My EDD was 25 May but they have moved it to 19 May. My DH is only home every other weekend so we have a pretty good idea when it happened so the earlier date is probably on target.

The combined test result is analysed then and there at St Thomas' and risk of DS came up as low. phew. DH & I had never discussed what we would do if it came up any other way!

However I was told my PAPP-A hormone was low... anyone else experienced this? Supposedly means a higher risk of pre-eclampsia but this test is part of a pilot scheme they are running so not conclusive. I am not too phased by this at the moment as my mum had 4 premature babies due to high blood pressure/pre-eclampsia so am hoping it is manageable for me. I have been told that at the 20 week scan they need to do a uterine artery doppler..... fingers crossed it comes up ok. not sure i fancy spending weeks in hospital before the EDD.

Good luck to those of you still waiting on scans or results.

Right, adding myself to the list. Have I missed anyone?
1st May - Mikocat #1
2nd May (or 28th April by scan) - Harecare #3
2nd may - DialMforMummy, #2
2nd May - MidwifeWithABump #1
3rd May - Mythical #1
4th May (or 30th April!) - Yorky, #4
4th May - saggybaps #2
6th May - Wrigglebum #2, oltob #2
8th May - Dreaming #1
8th May - myweeangel #2
10th May - Marmite123 #1
11th May - Cairnterrier, #2
13th May - musicalmrs, #1
14th May - Montymum, #1
15th May - heidihole, #1
16th May - cupcakefairy, #2
17th May - MandaHugNKiss #4
19th May - SirCharles #1
21st May - littlesarah, #3
23th May - tostaky, #3
24th May - MixedClassBaby, #2
25th May - LimeFlower #1
28th May - Catsycat #3

Thanks so much for the support everyone - it means a lot. The good news is everything looked normal on the scan. They couldn't see where the bleed was coming from, or see any pooled blood etc, my cervix was closed, and the baby was fine as before, and wriggling around like mad. :)

On the one hand it was a big relief, on the other I am obviously still a bit worried that they don't know what the bleed was... They did say that the placenta looked low, but that they normally wouldn't mention that this early, as most placentas move up by the 20 week scan. However, they said this might possibly be something to do with it. I was also asked if the blood was definitely from my (favourite MN word) fanjo, as it might otherwise have been piles!!!!! I would have loved for it to be piles rather than anything sinister, unfortunately I had kind of checked where it was coming from, so it wasn't that... The EPU nurse said if the bleeding continued, to go and get a speculum exam and swabs done at the GP (hurrah!!!! ) in case it was an infection. In the meantime, my back is really aching, but I get backache anyway, so am trying not to read anything into that!!!!

Lucky congratulations! Don't worry if people talk - round here everyone talks about each other (it's a small town!), but in a well meant, interested way. I think that's just what people do (especially if they are a bit bored!). One of my friends had DD3 a while ago, having got pg a couple of days before her DH went for the snip, and while using contraception. They did have a hard time reconciling themselves to the pg (especially as my friend did it tough in all her pgs), but they are now a very happy complete little family (and partly why I had the confidence to try for number 3 myself!). Again, we did talk about her situtation but everyone wished her well, and no-one was laughing at her or tutting at all, but just very sympathetic. At the end of the day, your friends don't need to know it was planned or not, unless you choose to say. I hope your DH feels better about it soon, and your DP Harecare, it must be really hard feeling they aren't 100% about it at the moment.

So relieved for you catsy that is fab news :) I think a lot of bleeding in pregnancy is unexplained sadly. Don't worry, only a couple of weeks now til you will feel the baby moving and be able to know if all is ok :)
I'm sure I felt a tiny baby poke last Friday Am only 14 weeks so v early...first felt it about 16 weeks last time. Anyone else feeling anything or am I just mistaking trapped wind for baby??

Sorry to hear some dps are not thrilled with the idea of the pregnancies but so true that they just don't feel it the way we do. My dh never got into the whole idea until he could actually feel the baby kicking, so I'm hoping will be the same this time, as we don't discuss it most days either at the moment.
In fact, last time we had a nickname for the bump all through the pregnancy and we still call ds that now...I feel a bit sad we don't have a name for this one yet and just call it 'the baby'...hopefully something will come naturally :)

What a relief Catsy, so glad there was nothing wrong enough to be visible, enough scares now - how about a boring rest of pregnancy now?

Cupcake, I wondered if I felt a little baby wriggle a couple of days ago, but not felt anything since, and still early yet - can't actually feel where the top of my uterus is atm so think I may have been being optomistic!

MW tomorrow - fingers crossed for hearing a little heartbeat, there is still a nervous niggle in the back of my mind in case baby caught the tummy bug I had last week

Catsy, that must be such a relief, I'm so pleased all is looking good. Bleeding in pregnancy seems to be so common but it's not really talked about that much. My sister had bleeding in early pregnancy and was obviously very worried. It wasn't until months later my mum casually mentioned she'd had bleeding in pregnancy and all was well!

SirCharles, I've never heard of PAPP-A before. I suppose it's a good thing that you will get monitored a bit more closely if there is even the slightest risk.

Had my midwife appointment today and all is well, urine sample fine, blood pressure fine and I got to hear a very strong little heartbeat . The midwife did warn me we might not hear one but not to worry as I'm only 15+2 and it depends on the position of the baby and placenta. But there was a lovely strong little heartbeat there and it was so nice to hear! Only a month til my 20 week scan now!

I haven't felt the baby move yet but I'm hoping it will happen soon, I felt DS quite early. Then again, if this one is as wriggly as DS was I shouldn't wish it too soon as once it starts it won't stop night or day!

More good news - got my risk result for DS from the clinic today, and it is 1 in 3290. Also, my back has stopped aching after spending all morning lying down with my knees curled up (what the physio told me to do - shamefully I can't get my knees that far up now, as my belly gets in the way!!!!). And, no bleeding yet today - hurrah! Will be going off to start the cleaning in a minute to celebrate! . Yorky, I am so hoping for boring from now on - I embrace boring!

cupcake, I've felt a sort of faint bubbling on and off for a week or so now. It isn't dissimilar to what I remember early baby movements feeling like... though probably my lunch at this stage! It's definitely not constant or particularly regular anyway. On the nickname thing, DD1 was "sproglet" all the way through the pg, but after she was born her nickname was (and still is!!) "fishy" (pretty sure she'll want to drop that in a couple of years). Subsequent bumps have been named "F2", "F3" and "F4", in her honour!

SirCharles, I've no experience with the Papp-A thing - this is the first time I actually had the nuchal scan and that blood test. If they think there is a risk with pre-eclampsia, I'm sure they'll keep a close eye on you all the way through, as they are obviously doing with the extra check at the 20 week scan. I know what you mean about proof of the baby being there - I was quite worried first time that they'd just say it was wind (even though I had done about 5 pg tests!). Glad the scan went well.

Catsy so glad the scan went well.

I've just booked my 20 week scan for the 19th Dec. We're going to have it done at FMC & have a lovely Christmassy day-out showing DD1 the lights... and of course take her to Selfridges!

I'm 15 wks and still feeling terrible, in fact it's got worse since the 12 week scan. I think I'll call the doc & see when she can start prescribing Omeprazole, my stomach is in pieces from all the acid, which in turn makes me cough... which makes me retch & heave. I even wake in the night feeling terrible/ coughing/ acid in my throat.

Harecare I'm sorry your DP isn't 'feeling it' this time around. To be honest I'm still finding it quite difficult myself. We rarely speak about the baby. I hope the 20 wk scan will be an epiphany moment where it will all slide into place. & thanks for all the pelvic floor reminders. Very much required!

Hi, had scan today.
One little wriggly baby in there. Sonographer very nice. Got 4 photos - no charge. Dh saw it first while she did all the measurements, then she gave me a good look at it moving around - v active.
She moved my date to 4 days sooner - 26th May.
NT measurement 1.8mm and she said she could see nasal bone. Bloods taken. Said results in 2-3wks.
Going to tell both sets of parents tonight.

Hello everyone

Haven't posted yet but am due start of May too (according to me, end of April acc to scan) - baby number 2.
Congratulations to everyone
I had a winter baby last time so am quite looking forward to having a summer one. Although advantage of winter meant you didn't feel too bad about hiding inside snoozing on the sofa, still with 2yr old guess my snoozing days are over.

Didn't think i was showing much... until the woman who I bought a sandwich from at lunch today asked when i was due... trying to convince self it was just cos my scarf was tucked into my coat but guess am firmly out of the closet as it were... so much bigger than last time already.

adding to the list

1st May - Mikocat #1
2nd May (or 28th April by scan) - Harecare #3
2nd may - DialMforMummy, #2
2nd May - MidwifeWithABump #1
3rd May - Mythical #1
4th May (or 30th April!) - Yorky, #4
4th May - saggybaps #2
5th May (or 30th April scan) - Stokey #2
6th May - Wrigglebum #2, oltob #2
8th May - Dreaming #1
8th May - myweeangel #2
10th May - Marmite123 #1
11th May - Cairnterrier, #2
13th May - musicalmrs, #1
14th May - Montymum, #1
15th May - heidihole, #1
16th May - cupcakefairy, #2
17th May - MandaHugNKiss #4
19th May - SirCharles #1
21st May - littlesarah, #3
23th May - tostaky, #3
24th May - MixedClassBaby, #2
25th May - LimeFlower #1
28th May - Catsycat #3

Catsy glad to hear you're fine-hope nobody will have to face such an "excitement"
Question to all of you-I noticed most had their first scans(either dating, nuchal or both).Assuming that you signed the agreement for nuchal measurement and combined blood tests for Downs,how comes that some of you already had it?I know I'm quite far down the list but I'm asking because my bean was too wriggly and the sonographer couldn't measure it,so no measurement taken and I have to wait for my blood test till I'm 16 weeks.I'm over 35yo so it is a big deal to me.

Catsy am so pleased that the scan went well.

Limeflower The nuchal scan has to be done before 13+6 weeks to be accurate hence why some of us have had our results for the nuchal scan already. I think that you might be waiting for the triple test (which was the way of testing for Downs before NT came along) which has to be done at 16 weeks. Is it worth giving your MW a ring to clarify?

Things are going well here, an odd thing happened at the weekend, I woke up with terrible backache and all of a sudden felt very pregnant - short of breath easily, having to sit down lots etc and my bump suddenly became really prominent. Am feeling much better now but think it must have been a hormone surge or something.

I'm pretty sure that I'm feeling DC wriggling away inside. I felt DS very early too so I'm pretty sure that that's what it is. Am just starting to look at maternity clothes to get me through the winter.

Might just be the hormones talking but I quite fancy a naff pair of maternity PJs for Christmas morning - has anyone seen any?

Thanks Lime. On your scan, I suspect if they couldn't measure the nuchal fold from the scan, that you will be having the triple or quadruple test, which is done around 16 weeks. I believe this tests the blood for 3 or 4 markers (hence triple or quadruple). I don't know too much about it, just that it is used to test for Downs in the second trimester. Looking at your EDD, are you still within the 13 +6 timescale for the nuchal scan? Would it be practical for you arrange to be rescanned privately if you are very concerned? I got my risk back quickly as I went private for the scan, and you get the result within a couple of days. HTH.

Hi Stokey. I think I'm showing too - I got stuck getting out of the car when dropping the DDs off at nursery - had to get back in and reverse then leave a bigger gap so I could get out .

Ginger, that's great news. Enjoy telling your parents!

Saggybaps, your scan day out sounds like a lovely plan. Hope you feel better soon though, as it sounds like you're suffering pretty badly at the moment. Hope the GP can help!

Cairn, looks like I x-poster with you above!

I apologise in advance for my lack of skill with links, but if you want naff pyjamas, have you seen these:

www.matalan.co.uk/fcp/product/fashion-to-buy-online/women%27s-last-chance/baby%20on%20board%20pj%20set%20white/39162

and these:

www.matalan.co.uk/fcp/product/fashion-to-buy-online/Nightwear/Special-Delivery-Slogan-Maternity-Pyjama-Set-in-Pink/39161&resultsPerPage=100&attrList=Dept,brand?cmpid=9

Are they a little too naff??????

I do, however, think this is absolutely hilarious:

www.nurturekids.co.uk/shop/oh-baby-london-been-inside-for-9-months-playsuit-2/

Maybe this time I will have to buy one....

Ooooh, I just felt a little wriggle! Was just telling DH that the midwife said it shouldn't be long until I do when I got a little flutter! Thought I might be imagining it but then got quite a few more!

Catsycat not x-posted just great minds thinking alike!

Thanks for the links as well - have to admit I was thinking along the lines of Christmassy themed naff PJs. I don't know why. I've never felt this need before. I do like the baby grow though!

Am going to bite the bullet and iron maternity trousers tomorrow for work as well. Downhill from here on in I feel. Hey ho!

Thanks catsy and cairn for all the explanation.I won't manage private scan before 14 weeks-I'm 13 weeks on Thursday and then back to work,so won't manage.Nevermind,will wait got another choice? ,I'm just a bit nervous,that's it and the time seems to pass sooo sloooow :(