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DECEMBER 2011 the final countdown (in honour of OI)

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kri5ty · 01/11/2011 22:58

Sorry for the new thread and crap name but i needed to start one oi how are you doing good luck xxx

I have fallen off the face of MN for a week or so and have loadsss to catch up on! I have been busy doing coursework and seriously nesting!!

PGP is awful, to the point of making me cry, finally got a pyshio app, but not for another 2 weeks :( doesnt seem much point. OH continues not to even attempt a massage if i ask and rolls his eyes.

Been having really bad shooting pains that take my breath away, but seems as though baby is head down (and very low) im guessing its a nerve he is on.

Very strange and TMI... but earlier (when i went to the toilet) i could feel what felt like the head bulging on the outside, through my lady garden lol... freaked me out!!

Good luck oi !! Fingers crossed

tye glad you took the sick advice!!

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OiMissus · 08/11/2011 10:18

I look, feel and am MASSIVE. :(

mopsytop · 08/11/2011 10:23

Me too! My bump is actually measuring spot on but I feel mahoosive. My bum is nearly as big as my bump :( !!!!

SoTiredoftheWheelsontheBus · 08/11/2011 10:26

Morning all, I'm a long time lurker reader of the December baby bus, but don't ofteny post. I just wanted to say thank you to you all for all of the information and advice that you've shared over the last 8 months! It's really reassuring to know that there are other people out there going through the same things at the same time!

I'm 35 weeks, and booked in for an elcs right at the start of December due to previous medical history. I have a 4 year old ds. I've started my maternity leave already, but because of SPD have been on crutches for the last couple of months, so I'm really glad there's only a couple of weeks to go now :)

All this talk over the last couple of days about feeding, I just wanted to share my experience of the first couple of days, and find out if it was normal/to be expected this time as well? DS was born late morning by elcs, and was quite sleepy the first night (presumably due to the medication I had received for the operation). He was bf, but the second and third nights in the hospital, he would be feeding/sleeping on and off for most of the day, but come 9 pm at night (when visiting hours stopped and DH had to go home so I would be on my own) he would wake up, and be feeding almost constantly until about 2 o'clock in the morning, when the midwives would take pity on me, and take him into the night nursery. I can't remember now whether he was feeding all that time (although I was so tired, that is certainly what it felt like), or if he would feed for a bit, fall asleep, then before he could be put back in the cot would wake up again so I would start feeding him again. My local hospital rules are day 1 of a cs you are bed-bound (you can hold your baby obviously, but someone else has to get them in and out of the cot). Day 2 you can get get up and can carry the baby, but can't lift/put them back into their cot because it's too much of a strain on the stomach muscles, it's only on day 3 or 4 that you are allowed to lift your baby out of their cot by themselves. I can't remember now if at night DS fell asleep after a feed, then by the time a MW had come to put him back in the cot he would be awake again. During the night the MWs told me a couple of times that if he was feeding that much then I didn't have enough supply for him and he really needed topping up with formula, or else kept asking was I sure I didn't want to formula feed him, which I declined as I thought that might interfere with my supply. I was adamant that I wanted to bf, so I declined that and then felt quite guilty that I wasn't satisfying his hunger. I did continue with bf, and my milk came in on about day 5. Is this a normal pattern for the first couple of days (feeding almost constantly for several hours at night time)? I've spoken with other mums, some of whom have experienced something similar, but because the MWs at the hospital thought it wasn't right it really made me question it. Did other second/third/fourth timers out there find the same thing?

I would also second finding out the contact details of local bf counsellors. Other than those first nights, I didn't have problems with bf until about week 6 when it suddenly got incredibly painful. My HV checked the latch and couldn't see a problem, but it didn't get any better. I called the NCT bf helpline and was given the contact details of a local wonderwoman counsellor, who saw me that evening, and spent a hour or two putting everything right. I really credit her with helping me to continue bf, as without her advice I would have stopped because it was too painful. Because of her advice DS was bf until just after he was 1 and I returned to work. Unfortunately for me she has now retired, but I will definitely be looking up details of other local advice lines in advance, just in case.

I've just read back through my post - sorry it's so long

hawthers · 08/11/2011 10:28

i'm pretty massive but got fondled by some random woman at work who reckoned i wouldn't make it to christmas.... i was so shocked that she had her hands all over my stomach i couldn't say anything along the lines of GET YOUR HANDS OFF ME. was so bizarre i've never even met/seen her before and she just groped me in the middle of the office.

mopsytop · 08/11/2011 10:33

Thanks for the bf info SoTired - I think the more information we are armed with, the better. It seems to me that midwives shouldn't be pushing you onto formula that soon from what's been said on here, and if I have problems now I am going to persevere, which I am not sure I'd have had the confidence to do without all this info. There are breastfeeding counsellors where I live in the children's centres also, which is good to know, you can just pop in whenever there is a session (and there are children's centres all over the city, so there is sure to be one somewhere every day), which I just found out about and am pleased, as it will mean support if I am having problems.

mopsytop · 08/11/2011 10:35

p.s. hawthers Shock I can't believe some people. It's so weird they way they think they can just feel you up, there's no way that would be acceptable normally. The lady in M&S did it to me when I was fitting for a bra so I was practically naked up top, was NOT impressed AND she told me I was really big and would be giving birth to a massive baby. Erm thanks, medical specialist, actually I am measuring exactly right for my dates and am not overly big (although I might feel it). What makes so many randomers think they are an expert/have the right to fondle you!!

OiMissus · 08/11/2011 10:44

So many people exclaim "Oh my god, you're massive" that I've started to take it as a compliment. They just forgot the first and final part of the statement, ie "You were so tiny before. Oh my god you're massive in comparison, and no doubt you will be all slim and lovely again very soon." Wink

hawthers · 08/11/2011 10:47

love it oi clearly that is exactly what they mean to say to me too

sevensevenseven · 08/11/2011 11:32

Morning. Thankfully I haven't had my bump fondled yet.

I think I may be getting pre-eclampsia again :(. I've got a funny dizzy sort of headache, so I took my blood pressure which is a bit higher than normal (though not worryingly high yet) and there's protein in my wee. I rang the MW who didn't seem too concerned about the protein or BP but said she doesn't like that my head doesn't feel right and she wants to see me tomorrow. I'm just trying to take it easy today. On the plus side my mum just phoned with the offer of a steak and kidney pudding so at least that's dinner sorted!

Sorry for the me post, hope everyone has a good day.

mopsytop · 08/11/2011 11:35

Oh dear seven, hope you are okay, keep an eye on things and ring your MW again if you are worried!

msbuggywinkle · 08/11/2011 11:51

sotired yes that sounds like a normal newborn feeding pattern to me! It is a clever system, levels of the hormone prolactin (which stimulates milk production) a higher at night, therefore babies ten to have a big cluster feed which starts in the evening and continues for, well a while, depending on the baby. Goodness is that they often sleep a bit longer after that session! More feeding also stimulates more milk production, so the more they feed the better really.

hawthers · 08/11/2011 11:52

hey seven that doesn't sound too good - how many weeks are you now? are you over the date that your DS was born at? if its any consolation my first consultant said she thought 34 weeks was term so hopefully you'll escape any/too much SCBU time if it is PE x

sevensevenseven · 08/11/2011 12:00

Thanks, I'm 34 weeks today. DS arrived at 35+5 although I was showing early signs from 30 weeks last time. I've already been told by my consultant that in repeat cases it often occurs later and isn't as severe. MW said I'll probably just have more regular checks from now on so they can keep an eye on things and act more quickly if it gets worse.

msbuggy I meant to say sorry your DD1 is having nightmares, poor thing :(

OiMissus · 08/11/2011 12:00

Hope you're feeling better soon seven. the promise of a steak n kidney pie must help!!! Envy
My ankles are also massive today. But I worry about lying down with my feet raised - don't want to disengage the baby and send him turning around! You can't win!
And we have finally heard from the people buying the house - the sale is still going ahead. They have sorted a mortgage, they don't give an indication of moving dates yet though. I don't know whether to be happy or not. After the week's events, I'm quite happy where I am for the time being!!

hawthers · 08/11/2011 12:04

seven when is your next consultant appointment? keep an eye on things and push for an earlier visit if necessary - you know you you feel and just make sure you don't get fobbed off. did your DS spend time at the nhs' pleasure?

KateM77 · 08/11/2011 12:04

DH didn't get back until 9pm in the end last night, and has to work late tonight. So, it's a nice idea aethel but not going to happen tonight. We'll definitely have to do it another night though.

Sorry to hear about everyone's aches and pains. I got the most horrendous pains at the bottom of the bump last night, almost like really bad wind, but so bad DH had to pull me up off the sofa as I couldn't move myself. No idea what it was, but thankfully feeling OK again today.

Waiting in for a delivery today. Hope it doesn't take too long or DD (and I) will go stir crazy being stuck indoors all day!

sevensevenseven · 08/11/2011 12:09

hawthers I have a scan and consultant in a fortnight. DS was in for 3 days but only due to feeding issues, he didn't need SCBU thankfully.

Mmmmcheese · 08/11/2011 12:09

Sorry youre not feeling well seven, hope you feel better soon, good that your bp hant spiked at least.

Im still feeling sick and generally unwell. Mw came and she thinks my split stomach musvles might have caused a hernia so i need to keep an eye on it and might even need surgery after the birth as my muscles are so far apart. She thinks that could be causing the nausea as my stomach is pushed around. Also not helped by the heartburn, whivh is made worse by me taking progesterone and lying down all day on bedrest. Sorry, feeling a bit sorry for myself today :(

sotired im not an expert but your bf experience does sound normal and ditto whar msbuggy said about cluster feeding. There are times when mums just cant make enough milk but in my opinion mws can be too quick to suggest formula when the whole reason the baby is sucking so much is to stimulate the milk supply, as far as i know thats normal and how we/they designed.

sevensevenseven · 08/11/2011 12:14

Sorry mmmcheese that sounds awful.

OiMissus · 08/11/2011 12:19

mmmm that all sounds awful - virtual hugs being sent across the ether. Sad x

KateM77 · 08/11/2011 12:34

Virtual hugs from me too mmmm, and for you seven :(

KateM77 · 08/11/2011 13:06

Bloody hormones! I'm just watching The Choir that I recorded last night and am in floods of tears at all those poor men having to go off to Afghanistan for 6 months and leave their families behind.

Also, the mugs DD decorated in her last week at nursery have just arrived in the post and I'm all choked up over those too - they're really sweet with her little handprints on them

DarciesmumandBump2 · 08/11/2011 13:13

Hey Ladies

Seven & Mmmm Hope you both take it easy and feel better soon.

I see my GP this morning regarding all the pressure down there. Baby is already 3/5ths engaged and only 2/5ths left to go! Said its tender which is to be expected when baby engages. However, he wasn't happy about the period type cramps and the fact I had protein in my urine. BP was fine and feet are generally swollen now. He asked about contractions but I told him they were just BH's as not that frequent and tbh don't really hurt. Told him no pain per se just uncomfortable bulging feeling :( Told to be on bedrest for rest of day (i'm at work oppps) and if the feeling is still the same or worse over next 24hrs then I need to head to the hospital to be checked out. He's happy with babys movement (kicked him several times lol) and HB. He thinks will be another early baby like DD!

fusam · 08/11/2011 13:49

Oi I don't blame you about sections, I am bricking it myself. My VBACs would have to be a highly medicalised events due to previous conditions so basically a flat on your back strapped to a monitor affair that I feel will most likely end up with an EMCS anyway so at least this would be hopefully be the lesser of two evils.

Seven & Mmmm hope you feel better, it doesn't sound like fun.

SoTired your experience of bf sounds normal to me, I tried to sleep during the day whilst DH held DD as she refused to go in those cots. It got easier once home as I could feed whilst laying down and dozing.

msbuggywinkle · 08/11/2011 13:52

seven I hope your head feels better soon and it isn't pre-eclampsia again. DD1 seems a bit happier today, biggest problem with the nightmares is how much they affect her the next day, she doesn't find them easy to deal with.

mmm ack, that sounds pants. I would be feeling very sorry for myself too!

Actually, I am feeling sorry for myself, I'm bloody tired, I have no good reason to be and it is bloody freezing! We're upstairs keeping warm...DDs are bouncing madly on one mattress, I am under the duvet on the other, need to buy our logs for the winter this weekend!