Third trimester here we come! Better start shopping 'cos in February we're popping! Feb 2012 Baby Bus

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5th thread? I'm lost off with all the chat! Lovely to have a nosy at everyone on facebook, if you haven't been added yet, get yourself on there!

Old thread is here, as you were ladies

Loads of heartburn here too.
Get a big bottle of gaviscon off your gp and glug!

Floatation tank sounds like bliss. I love swimming whilst pg because of that lovely light feeling.

X post Esme, glad someone else glugs!

OK... so I am feeling a bit ranty now... apologies in advance, it is possible it is just hormones!!

MATB1 forms... I was due to get mine at my next MW appointment which would have falled 2 days after the desired day for me to hand it in at work. One of my close freinds is in our HR role... but only newly to it this year. SO she has so far asked me for it, or when I am going to get it a good handful of times. I have told her she'll get it when I have it. She even suggested I move my MW appointment by a week

Today I mailed about a separate question (HR related, so work based) and I got a esponse that managed to fit in a "and you'll need your MATB1 in by then too"

I KNOW

So I have mailed back and thanked her for looking into said query, and added "The MATB1 is all in hand. I'll get it to you as soon as I have it."

I had a response "What date are is your GP/Midwife working to now for your expected week of confinement?" Now I know she's being jovial here... tone of voice is not considered in an email... it's all good... BUT REALLY, I'VE TOLD YOU 1000 TIMES, PLUS YOU DON'T NEED TO KNOW OFFICIALLY YET!

She's always "efficient" but PLEASE stop getting on my case.

She was going to get it 2 days after the date it was "needed".... now I'll have it the week before (MW moves it, not me to fit HR needs) but I am tempted to give it on the day... out of spite [devil emoticon]

Am I being a total moronic cowbitch?

In other news, I am feeling sweet toothed currently... Twirls and peach and passion fruit oasis all the way!!

24+1 ( and HORMONAL )

OH MY GOD!

I think I have just burst a bloody gasket!

She's just mailed me with a massive paragraph detailing the policy and when to send it in, and who to contact, and will I get it in on time, and quote quote quote... ARGH

She's my friend... but I want to slap her so hard right now

By the way... this is NOT going on FB as she is a good friend... but right now... argh!

I get large bottles of peppermint gavsicon from the GP, but also bought a smaller bottle from the chemist....I keep the smaller bottle in handbag so its not as heavy as a bowling ball LOL and top it up from the huge bottle then glug from the small bottle leaving my large bottle clean and at home LOL

I think I am hormonal, cried in Asda Yesterday when i realised i left mobile at home....which is five mins down the road and i was with husband!
My waterbabies classes gave me loads of nice cards and gifts/flowers.....well that set me right off!! LOL
and today I had misplaced a scarf....which I later found but until then started to well up!

Ive had loads of appointments, every 2 weeks because not been well at all, but think i shouldnt have one between 16 weeks and 28weeks normally as its second baby does that sound right?

GGT in two weeks, will go on the right date this time, not three weeks early LOL

26+4

Well i stood on DPs xbox headset today and broke it.. then cried for about half an hour, he was actually very nice and gave me a cuddle and told me it didnt matter and to stop being hormonal which i was quite surprised at considering its his beloved xbox thingy! Then he said he felt bad coz i was crying which made me feel worse = more tears! Deary me.
I bought a load of chocolate from poundland to make me feel better Going to sit and munch it all tonight and maybe have a nice bubble bath and relax seen as DD is at my mums for the night - and possibly tomorrow night The thought of having a break from her is amazing, especially right now when im shattered all the time and shes a chatterbox, but as soon as shes gone i miss her and want her back!

Ive started getting heartburn recently and got a huge bottle of peppermint gaviscon from the doctors and all i can say is.. Yuk. But its still better then having heartburn i suppose!

We have a 'Float room' here and i soooo want to go in, sounds lush.

monkey deep breaths! :)

P.S Anyone know if its ok to go in a hot tub when pregnant? I know youre not supposed to in the 1st trimester but what about the 3rd??

I think the thing about hot tubs is to do with bacteria and bugs in the water rather than the heat particularly. If it's your own hot tub, I'd go for it but if its a public one..well, they're pretty grotty at the best of times...

Hello everyone, wow doesn't time fly can't believe we have yet another thread :)

I am back in the land of technology having finally got internet back! I also have hot water and heating too as didn't have them for nearly three weeks when we moved in, so things are on the up.

Not so much teary hormonal as foggy headed and forgetful here, although chocolate still helps

Appts wise second time round I have only had

10 weeks MW
12 weeks scan
16 weeks MW
19 weeks scan

then will see GP at 28 weeks plus have bloods taken followed by scan at 32 and MW weeks as my placenta is low lying, then VBAC clinic appt at 34 weeks if placenta ok/CS consultant if not. Then I think its 2 weekly after that.

I had a lot more appts first time round with DD between 16 and 34 weeks.

The hottub thing is about the heat of the water, can make you feel dizzy and sick with all the extra blood and whatnot you are pumping around your body, as your heart is working extra hard anyway. But yeah, public ones are a wee bit minging!

monkey pestering doesn't make you conjour said precious form up any quicker. My HR team were firmly told that I can't give um what I haven't bloody got. Shut them up a bit whilst they had to wait. Oooo 5 days longer than they would have liked cos of how my appointments fell.

babycarmen hot tub should be fine if you know it's clean. I went in ours when inwas on holiday 6 weeks ago. But staff checked chlorine levels 2 times a day and it was cleaned regularly too. If ur going somewhere like a spa etc u should be fine cos it's a daily job. . . . Or it should be!

The hot tub is at a Spa - quite a posh one so it should be clean!!! :/

The hot tub thing... I actually asked my midwife about this yesterday as we're going to a posh hotel with a spa for DP's birthday tomorrow. She says the risk is to do with overheating and she can't advise it. However, she didn't have any objections when I said I couldn't see any harm in going in for 5-10mins - I think as long as you're sensible and aware of your body temperature it should be alright.

Hot tubs I do actually know about because of my job... You shouldn't go in them because the temperature is too high, which is dangerous for your baby. Anything over 35 degrees (some hot tubs and spas are as hot as 40) can raise your core body temperature which is very dangerous for bub - in the same way that having 'flu is dangerous because it can raise your body temp, and the same reason you shouldn't have hot baths. Also the pressure from the jets isn't good for you and baby.

I nearly fainted from being in a pool at 34 degrees on Sunday, so that's a risk too. You'll probably find babycarmen that the Spa won't let you go in, or will at least advise you not to. I wouldn't. It's too risky.

Plus having a bath would be hotter than a hot tub n they arent outlawed!

Hmm maybe il just steer clear, better safe then sorry! Im not too good with heat at the best of times anyway.

Hot baths are outlawed!

NHS says:

"When you use a sauna, jacuzzi, hot tub, steam bath or steam room, your body cannot lose heat effectively by sweating. Your body's core temperature therefore rises.

It?s possible that a significant rise in your core temperature could harm your unborn baby, particularly in the first 13 weeks of the pregnancy."

Babycentre.co.uk says:

"...you do need to be cautious about "hot" baths as they could push up your core body temperature, and this could be dangerous for your baby. Studies on animals suggest that overheating, especially in the early months of pregnancy, may cause birth defects in their offspring.

The type of birth defects that might arise affect the brain and spine. These are called neural tube defects (NTD). Spina bifida is one example of an NTD. But the risks of overheating are greater with hot tubs and saunas than baths. Baths cool rapidly, whereas hot tubs and saunas are maintained at a constant high temperature.

If the bath water is too hot you could also feel faint or sick, as the heat can lower your blood pressure a bit too much. This can affect blood flow to your baby, which is unsafe at any stage of your pregnancy."

From a boring elfansafety point of view as well, if it's a spa pool with any kind of water movement that could cause an aerosol or drops of water you have to be aware of the possibility of legionella bacteria which can cause legionnaire's disease. Immuno-suppressed people are more at risk of developing it and although there isn't necessarily a huge risk, it's worth bearing in mind that if you can't smell the chlorine it's probably not clean enough! Also...I've seen the gunk that comes out of spa pools when they are cleaned and it's not pretty!

linky to HSE guidance on legionella in spa pools (aimed at owners and operators, and outlining their legal duties as well as the risk and how it arises)

OH HELL NO!

I just watched the last episode of house that's come out to find 2 kids on there... One called Sophie and one called Sophia

So I'm putting my foot down and need to rename the bump.

Fuck no! They're everywhere like a friggin plague of Sophie's! DH can do one

This is also true - the scum you see is mainly grease from bodies, hair and cosmetics. It does look gross, but it's pretty harmless. Chlorine does kill 99% of bacteria - there's a particular tummy bug that's immune. Most public pools and spas have very high standards of water safety and testing - the water should be tested every 3 hours or so (depending on the pool), so that's less of a worry than temperature.

Also, you can smell chlorine strongly if the level's too low. Plus, some pools use other methods of cleaning as well as chlorine (eg ozone). If you want to know how safe a pool is, ask the people who manage it when the last water test was done and what temp it is.

This is my anorak subject. Can you tell?!?!

Ew, Hermione, makes me never want to go in a hot tub again! Spas and leisure centres should be pretty good at controlling the risks by following the guidelines, though.

Definitely not going in now, even when im not pregnant! That kinda stuff creeps me out, im a bit OCD towards cleanliness and didnt even think of that side of things :/

OK now I've got the H&S stuff out of the way I'd like to have a little rant if that's OK. I'm not convinced I'm not being hormonal and unnecessary but since this is something that has annoyed me pre-pregnancy I'm inclined to think not entirely.

I have a colleague at work who has been doing the job for over 15 years and has an impressive knowledge base and is actually very good at the job. However, she feels the need to constantly put others down and belittle things that they do. And it's not just about work stuff. It's everything. And today I was REALLY CROSS - DH had ordered a new graphics card for his PC because he's just bought Skyrim and his previous card wasn't really up to the task, and it was delivered to me at work so I checked the (suspiciously huge) box it came in to see what it was (which DH is fine with me doing, btw). I jokingly made a comment along the lines of "he's spent HOW much on a graphics card? Well that's a new £100 handbag for me then ha dee ha ha" and she started lecturing me on how a handbag isn't useful but a graphics card is.

And then another colleague asked "what is a graphics card" so I told her, and annoying colleague proceeded to "correct" me by saying exactly the same thing, but using different words. And then we were talking generally (3 or 4 of us now) about how it was really annoying that there was an issue with Steam which made the whole game download instead of just installing the copy DH had bought - didn't cost anything but it used 5GB of our 10GB monthly download limit.
So THEN annoying colleague starts to tell me about how I clearly have an inferior system and package - who has a download limit, for goodness' sakes...and I calmly (just about) explained that when we first signed up to the package we are on we didn't need any more than that so there was no point in paying the extra £however much for unlimited. And that also we didn't want to change our broadband provider because of all the faff with changing email addresses etc. Oh and that was wrong as well because according to her you can port your email address. Which in some cases you can but for example you can't use a hotmail address from a yahoo account, of course.

Which then prompted a spilling-forth of a waterfall of bile about how the IT arrangements in my house are rubbish and cheapo and substandard and how great she is at IT etc etc. And I wouldn't have been mad except for the fact that she knows far less than she thinks she does about IT, and DH is a f*cking chartered IT professional who has sorted it all out and he wasn't there to defend himself.
Now, don't get me wrong...the set up we have isn't fantastic - but we get rubbish speeds because we are a long way from the exchange so I'm not prepared to pay through the nose for little discernible improvement. But I wish she would just fck the fck off and stop with the down-putting, bullying spew she keeps spouting!!!!!!

Phew. It all sounds very petty now I've written it down but I'm a lot less cross. Feel free to ignore. And sorry to rant.

ps 10 points for YOUR anorak, phlossie - it's slightly more interesting than mine!!