The 'We are brooking no arguments whatsoever for an uneventful pregnancy and pain-free birth' thread

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Ladies, our previous thread was getting full so here is a lovely new shiny home for us all.

I've put some comfy cushions around and plenty of pregnancy safe snacks and drinks. The Segway park is in the corner over there next to the stack of glittery vom buckets (plenty of extra buckets too for all the newbies).

In the corner over here you'll find our library of leaflets including sections on early pregnancy private scan clinics, pushchairs and car seats.

Hope you all like it very much :)

Love it could be anything, placenta in the way, or have you had intercourse as this can irritate the cervix? I hope it is fine, if you are really worried got to A&E I hope your ok.

Oh Love - hang in there! How awful for you. Why do these things always happen on a sodding Sunday afternoon too!

I guess you can you could call your GP in the morning, or is there an emergency doctor's number? Or an EPAU at your hospital (or are you past EPU at 14+4?). I hope / am sure it is nothing to panic about but I also totally understand that that won't help you at all since I have no qualifications here!

If you're stressing out, you could try your emergency GP no - they proabv won't be able to get you a scan today? But at least they could get the ball rolling to get you seen tomorrow or give you any advice or anything.

It's so hard because I guess to people like the Women's hospital they just see this stuff every day and it is nothing to worry about, but for us it is so much more frightening! And sometimes you end up feeling a bit brushed off.

Thinking of you anyway - take it easy and hopefully someone a bit more knowledgeable will be along to talk more sensibly. xx

Oh, and I'm brooking strongly for you!!

Oh LoveIn so sorry to read this. If it gets any worse can you call your local gynae ward for some reasurrance/information? My local EPU is closed at the weekend but Gynae take phone calls on EPUs behalf and will see you if they think it's an emergency. If nothing else they might just be able to put you on an emergency scan list for tomorrow.

I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure there could be any number of reasons for a bleed at any stage during pregnancy. I know that's not going to put your mind at rest, but just wanted to reiterate that bleeding doesn't have to mean the worst and in most cases it probably doesn't.

Thinking of you and also brooking no argument on your behalf.

love, you poor thing, try not to worry! I totally bricked it with a good few wipes full of bright red blood at 22 weeks, and a bit more later on. All was absolutely fine. I'm sure your baby will be too, just hang in there, get any advice you think you can, and hopefully seen tomorrow. Bleeding in pregnancy really does seem pretty common, though I know it's heart-stopping when it happens... We will all Brook for you and hope it's ok.

I can't can't can't get DD to sleep tonight. DH has gone up for a bit. I think it is going to be another loooong night... Think it's this awful, awful cold she has. Maybe thats why she can only sleep lying on my chest if I'm sat up in a chair??? Though could be anything...

musical, glad you're feeling slightly more positive. I hope it's one baby, further along than you think- and therefore nearer that 12 week 'safer' mark! plus I STILL don't understand how you're meant to look after twins Or of course, twins!!! It'll be lovely either way, who could ever regret a beautiful baby?!

jaggy, evening shift when you're feeling exhausted, very hard work... Thank goodness for your bored friend who did an hour of it!! I am feeling better, only sick twice today, I am not half as ill as meme, or bartlet was last time. It's amazing the difference some food and water makes to my attitude too

ahhhh, I can hear DH singing to DD to try and get her to sleep (over the monitor).... in desperation probably

Brooking for you too love, really hope all is ok.

Aw dream hope she settles ok!

Thanks, all - trying to stay calm and distract myself (by sorting out the hyacinths for forcing!) and not think "oh no, is it the glass of wine/long walk/warm bath/box I carried upstairs?" Will go to GP in morning. It's not heavier anyway and is really only noticeable when wiping (TMI!).

Musical, glad to hear about positive HCG levels (thread's first twins?) and Dream, glad you feel a bit better. Might DD be able to sleep propped up on pillows with lots of Karvol to help?

Oh yeah dream, DS is a cold expert and the best results I had was with Boots baby vapour rub. either it is magic or it was a complete coincidence.

He had his cot propped up when he was tiny, but by your DD's age he rolled down the slope and got wedged in the corner!

I thought about propping her up on pillows in her cot but DH got me worried about her suffocating herself. He has drenched her sleeping bag in Olbus oil for babies to see if that helps clear her nose. The problem seems to be a completely blocked nose, and she is a thumb sucker, so she can't drop off while sucking her thumb as normal, and then can't stay asleep... sigh... However, it is quieter over the monitor now. Sure I'll hear from her in the small hours again though!! If it's horrible tonight, to Boots tomorrow for us!!!

love, I don't mean to be anything but supportive but it doesn't sound like much. Not belittling your worries- I'd be worried too, but I really hope this is normal very frightening pregnancy bleeding. You just never hear about it before you get pregnant, so I always assumed ANY amount of bleeding was abnormal and therefore clearly the beginning of something going horribly wrong!! My bleeding at 5 weeks again with DD (after a mc at a similar time) had me instantly give up hope of it being a viable pregnancy. Clearly, it was, the snuffler is in her cot to prove it!!

Oh, and love, I confess to today hauling DD around in the backpack carrier (which weighs about 2kg by itself) plus DD obviously (19lb a good month or so ago). SO heavy!! And I lump her around all day. And lift many things which I don't think about til I've done it and it's too late (particularly at work last time). And went in the Blue Lagoon spa in Iceland at 23 weeks pg with DD (to be fair, i didn't let myself feel overheated like you can get in those places but I didn't want to miss out completely), and I ate pasturised and cooked brie and camembert. And I ran, mountain biked til 27 weeks which was when I decided Lakes off-road biking, big hills and a big bump could no longer mix, swam twice a week, and generally did not take it easy ever. If anything happens it will be NOTHING to do with anything you've done. However, I predict you becoming vast With Child, and then having a lovely, lovely baby to cuddle all night when you're dying for some sleep

Love - I'm so sorry this is happening to you. Try not to panic too much. My first bleed (on Wednesday) was just like that - blood tinged discharge. I now know things were fine after that one. Of course you should get it checked out if you're worried, with absolutely anyone that will listen - but the important thing is to stay as calm and positive as you can (I know that's rich coming from me!), and to talk to someone in the know - as reassuring as the lovely MN-ers are, nothing will reassure you more than talking to a midwife/doctor.

Thinking of you and brooking no argument for you and mini Love.

dream - I'd be overjoyed with a healthy looking scan tomorrow or Tues to be honest - be it a singleton or twins (I also have NO idea how you're supposed to cope with twins!), I'm just hoping for something in there!

Love, brooking hard here that it will turn out to be nothing. What about phoning Triage (number ought to be written on your maternity notes) and seeing if they can sort a scan for you? Or you might be far enough along for them to be able to hear the heartbeat with a doppler.

Dream, hope you get some sleep and DD gets better soon. At least the sickness has eased off a bit!

Thanks for all the lovely messages. Triage won't see you til 17 weeks here, but have spoken to the maternity unit and they say see GP/midwife in the morning. Trying to stay calm and at least it's not getting worse.

Remember on the previous thread I mentioned midwives here doing booking in appointments at home and semi-joking that it was so they could check out the house as a suitable place for a baby? Apparently it's true! There's another thread (can't link on iPad for some reason) which says that midwives always ask if they can wash their hands and get a glass of water (which mine did) which is apparently so they check out your kitchen and loo. Sneaky!

Good Luck today Love it sounds very hopeful and not forgetting you Music with your twins hopefully all the bleeding will stop and innocuous causes found!

Dream nothing worse than a poorly baby, I hope DD gets better.

Love that sounds terrible, we don't have midwife visits we do have the HV at a later date but I have had worse in my house, as SS had to make sure it was ok for my sister here and that was fine :)

I must confess I have a kids film on as I have a bad back this morning and just want to be sat, not tearing around! Usually quite strict about tv and only have the odd episode of Ben and Holly, I guess I better resign myself to it though as I get more pregnant. We are going out later to meet some friends so I can feel less guilty...

Hope everyone is ok today :)

Purple - I too am sliding into more use of cbeebies over here. I'm thinking that once the new one is here cbeebies will be a bit of a lifesaver so what difference does a few more months make?!

Morning! How're things today Love?

Sadly the scan couldn't be booked today, so it's 9.20 tomorrow. The question is how do I tell my employer that I can't teach tomorrow (the first day of teaching at both these schools!)... should I tell them the truth? even though it doesn't look hopeful? I suppose I should... must start gearing up for the phone call without bursting into tears in the middle! Also means DH can't come with me.. :(

Still bleeding on and off. Each time it starts I lose hope, each time it stops I begin to feel slightly more positive... emotional rollercoaster. Feeling more negative than positive today...

Music are you close enough to the Hospital that you could get there quickly if they have a last minute cancellation? I think you are going to be honest with them, they cannot penalise you for pregnancy related sickness and anything else you say, could make them a bit peeved? Anyone else that can go with you to the scan? I am still not brooking over here and I am :( you are having a miserable time.

By a weird coincidence my scan is also at 920 tomorrow so hopefully Musical and I wll be getting reassuring news at the same time. Have been told by GP to stay at home and rest so am on the sofa with MN. Hope MiniDream is better?

Thanks Bartlet and Purple.

DH initially couldn't go with me as he had a paid day on site somewhere - running the first day of a large ish course (he's a trainer), lots of people there. However, his boss has said she'll run the course tomorrow so that he can be there with me. I think his boss might be the best boss ever!

I also think I'll tell them the truth about why I can't make it. I have to teach 11 sessions over the term, and I could still do so - I could make the session up at the end of term, so I'll tell them that's my intention. I could get sick pay, but I'd rather not let the kids miss out - plus it shows I'm still dedicated to work.

Love, what a coincidence. Will be hoping for double reassuring news then! Yours will be absolutely fine though! :) I'm sadly at work today - a different job to the teaching one though (I have quite a few!), so its not too stressful.

musical, don't be despondent! You don't know if it's hopeful until you go. Your HCG levels are very hopeful. Glad your DH can go, I'd definitely tell them the reason I couldn't teach, it's a genuine need, can't wait and will be much more understood than 'I'm not well'. Plus, the reason I'm not so anti-telling people before I'm 12 weeks is I'd be so distraught if I had a mc that I think people would realise something was up. My step sisters friend bled so much with her IVF twins that the doctors prepared her fully for nothing on scan and a late mc and both babies were ok. She is a bad example as had very very heavy bleeding, a lot of the time, and was delivered early etc etc due to difficult pg and continued threatened mc but just to reassure you it can still be fine. After all, difficult or not, the girl and her DH got their beautiful babies (also twins- coincidence?!)

love, hope you've stopped bleeding, and your scan goes well tomorrow!

I hope good news for you both at 9:20

DD is a little better. She did some chest-frog sleeping with me in the night again , I so nearly fell asleep in the chair and had visions of being woken up by dropping her, but not as bad as the night before- I was definitely up with her for less than an hour and then she stayed asleep!!! Her room was like a walk-in aromatherapy area- the bottle of Olbus oil said use 4 drops. I'd say DH used half the bottle on her sleeping bag.... Maybe it did the trick though!! She's still totally bunged up, and seems to have a cough now too, but is ok.

Hope everyone else is ok!!!

love and musical fingers duly crossed and will be no brooking on your behalf over night.

dream is it bad that i kinda like the frog sleeping when they are ill? well for the first night only and after that it does seem a little wearing but still pretty lovely!

belated reply to fishcake re IUGR (sorry off grid over weekend for lovely few days with my lovely boys - am def in a mushy stage of pg). i've been refered to a specialist consultant team who deal with blood pressure issues and small babies. my bp was fine last time all the way through but apparently the baby side is the same. anyway i had normal 12 week scan and then an appt with consultant team at 14 weeks to discuss plan then normal anomaly scan at 22 weeks and then follow up with consultant team who scanned again at 22+1 (which i thought was rather excessive!) but was done so they could take readings now of blood flow in various arteries and amniotic fluid levels etc as nugget appears to be growing ok at the moment. will be going back at 28 weeks (in 11 days time eek!) and they will check the growth and all measurements again to see how they compare with the earlier measurements when things appeared to be ok. and then depending on the outcome of that scan i may be seen more frequently.

plus also seeing MW every 2 weeks to check bp, wee and general fattiness bump size - lovely!

sorry for essay and for TMI for everyone else!

hope all are well this fine monday morning - mentally i'm on mat leave already which is rather unhelpful as i still have 10 weeks left in the office... oops. hmm added 'must do something about my attitude' to my to do list - shame its at the bottom of a very loooong list.

No posts sine 12:50? What is going on ? Very aching belly today dh is very late home from work DD has been a nightmare but is behaving now thank god

Hi everyone!

Love I'm so sorry to hear you're having such a stressful time! I'm glad you've got your scan arranged so soon, and your doc's advice to take it easy until then sounds like a good plan. I'll be no brooking for you overnight as well!

Musical how frustrating that the scan couldn't be done today! Your DH's boss sounds like a star there, it's so good that he can be there with you. It's a really tricky decision on what to say to your new schools, but I'm sure you'll make the best choice in the end. Ultimately so long as your little one (or two!) are okay nothing else matters! I'm keeping up the No Brooking for you too!

Dream I'm glad your DD is feeling a bit better. I'm rubbish when I have a cold and can't sleep (properly man flu type tendencies!). Snuggling up like a frog on someone's chest sounds like a great idea! Unfortunately I think I might crush DH!

Well my first day back at work is over, and it was stressful but not too horrific (no vomiting yet! Yay!) Not looking forward to trying to hide this for 4 more weeks! I told my closest friends at work tho, and they were very sweet I also bought a few new LOOSE tops to wear to work, all my old tight work tops show a disturbingly round pot belly now! It's definitely not baby yet, but there's enough bloating to look suspicious!

I've missed MN as well! My new desk is too overlooked for me to risk being caught on MN before I "come out"!

I hope everyone else is having a good day?

Evening all. Still bleeding a bit and also cramping a little but have heard lots of reassuring stories of similar things being fine on other threads. Have spent the day lying down resting - very much hope they don't advise longer term bed rest tomorrow as am bored already! Although obviously would happily do it if that was what was needed, and much better than outright bad news tomorrow.

Good news re ok first day, Scream. It's tricky hiding a bump, isn't it?!

Right, evening you lot.

Sorry this'll be brief, but I have visitors this week so won't be on much

Still trying to read and keep up when I can.

love and musical am keeping everything crossed for you tomorrow - thinking of you both lots and hope you're ok.
Dream, hope DD is feeling better

Erm forgotten what else I had to say but just wanted to pop my head in

Take care - keep on brooking xx