The 'We are brooking no arguments whatsoever for an uneventful pregnancy and pain-free birth' thread

[Biscuitsandtea]

Ladies, our previous thread was getting full so here is a lovely new shiny home for us all.

I've put some comfy cushions around and plenty of pregnancy safe snacks and drinks. The Segway park is in the corner over there next to the stack of glittery vom buckets (plenty of extra buckets too for all the newbies).

In the corner over here you'll find our library of leaflets including sections on early pregnancy private scan clinics, pushchairs and car seats.

Hope you all like it very much :)

I am undecided. We held out for the surprise last time but I am anticipating more scans this time round (due to IUGR last time) and I'm not sure I will be able to stop myself asking... Might have to persuade DH though as I think he will want to wait again.

Scream and fishcake, thank you for being so wonderful! Thank you to all the no brookers actually, you've all helped me stay as positive as possible!

Scream, so glad your scan went wonderfully! Your intuitive feelings are also interesting - will be interesting to see if you're right!

I'm hoping for a Monday scan - not just because of the speed, but because it works out better with work (a Tuesday one means I have to cancel with a new school or two, and tell my employers what's going on - which I'd prefer to avoid unless completely necessary). Also it means DH can come with me. Monday's appointments are technically full, but there's an appointment the doctor was quite sure would be cancelled - so fingers crossed... would be nice if the bleeding would stop though.

Off to my FIL's tomorrow, so should be a quietish day :) DH has said I don't have to go (though he'd have to, as they're working on the car tomorrow), but I think I'm better off going - will help take my mind off of things, and I'll only be sitting around there anyway - just in a different setting!

fishcake - Mozzerella and vinegar sounds strangely delicious...

Musical, that sounds promising with the hcg! Goody good! Will switch to Brooking No Argument that you get the Monday scan - FX.

Fishcake, I am definitely finding out the sex as soon as possible. I don't know if I'll get another scan between the booking one and the 20 week one. I am meant to be having scans every 4 weeks after 20 weeks, but I'm not sure about before. The lovely EPU MW let me have 2 already, so she might let me have more. I need time to prepare myself for similarities to or differences from my beautiful daughter.

Scream, congratulations on the scan! I too have an idea that this baby is a boy, but no rationale behind it whatsoever. Sorry to hear about the troublesome fibroids. We will just have to Brook that they will go away or shrink or something. Never fear, Brooking's here!

scream I'm so pleased that you had a great scan and all is well. Boo to the fibroids, at least you know now though so it's not such a shock in a few weeks time if they start getting bigger.
I know exactly what you mean about intuition. Although I never found out before the birth, I just knew DS was a boy. It didn't even cross my mind at all that he wouldn't be. It was also from the point where I saw the photo, but at 12 weeks rather than 8.

My instinct is swaying towards boy at the moment for this one too, but my 8 week scan picture doesn't really resemble anything human never mind boy or girl. My symptoms are the same as last time. No sickness, but constant nausea and terrible headaches some days. I've also been craving apples the same as with DS. I must point out that I genuinely have no preference, it's just that I've always envisaged our family with us having 2 little boys, so it will be a complete and utter shock to me it it is a girl.

I won't find out if I'm right or not though until the day of the birth, which still seems like an age away.

musical great news about your blood test results. That sounds very positive indeed. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that you get your scan on Monday.

Scarlet thanks for the intuition backup! Also I know exactly what you mean about the 8 week scan not looking human! I appear to be growing a male jelly baby at the moment! How is it possible to feel so strongly about an indeterminate blob?! Watching the heart was sooooo exciting though!

Also, along with Too, it sounds like we'll be having a lot of little boy No Brookers in a few months' time!!

Musical getting out and being distracted tomorrow sounds like a good plan. I hope you get your Monday scan!! Sounds promising!

So glad to hear things are sounding good musical

Went for my waxing yesterday and did tell her. She said that the only problem I should have is my skin being more sensitive. Well she wasn't lying, it hurt like buggery and I had tears in my eyes.

jen - ouch! - I'm a wimp when it comes to pain, so maybe I'll avoid waxing for a bit..! That said, I'm getting better - survived four needles yesterday which I usually hate (though did lose it a bit during the cannular, cheered only by DH going a bit woosy over it - which shouldn't have made me laugh, but did!).

Yesterday the doctor said that I might be further along than I thought, due to my high ish hCG. Which made me think.. if I am, then the AF I thought I had, which I was thinking was a heavy implanation bleed, could have been a bleed while pregnant? If so, maybe I'm just prone to bleeding? I'll mention it at the scan/appointment, whenever it happens. Either way, the results from yesterday, plus DH being positive, plus you lovely ladies has made me a lot more positive... that and lots of no brooking, and ignoring what could be wrong ;) Less blood today too, so all good! I know my mother is, like me, prone to particularly heavy/horrendous AFs. I look forward to being able to tell her what's going on (which we may do soon if all goes well on Mon/Tues) and seeing if this is a genetic thing.

Only problem is that I'm at the FILs, ravenous, and no idea where I can find any snacks..!

all sounding really positive musicalmrs :)

Morning ladies - sorry for being absent yesterday!

Musical - I'm glad to hear that you're getting some better news and that the HCG is going up - that's really promising. And also v v glad that you got a doctor who said you should definitely get a scan - hope they can do it on Monday for you so you get an answer asap. Keep on brooking!

Dream also VERY glad to hear that your magic pills (and your silver fox doctor) are doing their job, or at least a bit! It must be such a relief to feel a bit better!

Scream - YAY for a brilliant scan and seeing the heartbeat - how fabulous! And I'm with you on the intuition thing though - I also think this one is going to be a boy for some reason. Although maybe it is a bit like Scarlet said - I just don't think I could imagine having a girl (maybe because we have a boy already?). I have absolutely no preference whatsoever, i just imagine it will be another boy as DH is one of two boys and I just assume it will be a boy! Id be delighted with either so no preference as I say. When I was pg with DS we never found out the sex and some days I would be convinced it was a girl and other days convinced it was a boy, but this time I guess it is just that my experience is of having a boy so I'm just assuming that's what it'll be again! We probably won't find out the sex this time either though.

Since we told DS about it, he always refers to 'him' which doesn't help because you automatically answer in 'him' terms and then I have to keep saying 'or it could be a girl'. Mind you DS isn't very good at him or her. I thought for a while he was rubbish at telling a girl from a boy, but I think it is just the grammar and he doesn't always remember that it is 'she / her' for a girl and 'he / him' for a boy so everyone tends to be a 'he'! Which can be a bit embarrassing when you have to keep saying 'it's a little girl sweetheart so remember we say 'she'.......' in earshot of the little girl's parents!

Hope those fibroids sort themselves out too Scream - I'm brooking for you!

Jaggy - get yourself on the phone and nag them about your appointment. How many weeks along are you now?

Purple and Love - oooooh flutters - how exciting!!! Can't wait for that bit. Think it happened quite late for me last time but hopefully will be a bit earlier with this being my second. How many weeks are you each now?

Hello to everyone else - hope you are all doing OK today too. Sorry if I have missed anything specific out - I have this feeling that there was something else I wanted to say!

DD had a bad night last night, which means the whole Dream household had a bad night. She woke up crying at 1am (which she never does- she normally calls, but she's not a crier) and I just couldn't get her back to sleep til sometime between 3 and 4 am. Unless she was lying like a little frog on my chest with an arm round my neck. She'd seem to be really asleep, so I'd try and lie her down so I could go to sleep too and the second her head hit the bed she'd wake up and cry. So disheartening. Then I started getting worried she was really ill. And of course, she was up at her normal time... I tried to tell her I don't need any practice for when a new baby arrives, I remember her middle-of-the night, all-night antics well!!!!!!!

But, I feel better again today. Only been sick once, only taken a half dose of the pills (the lovely gp did frighten me rather with the 'no known problems or links to birth defects but OBVIOUSLY you're best to take nothing at all in pregnancy, then the pharmacist dispensing was a bit funny, and wanted to know if it was prescribed by a specialist, and when I said no, if the gp had a specialist interest- made me nervous anyway). So I'm really pleased I'm coping without them. Even drunk nearly a pint of water. The Brooking is helping. So much so that I have vacuumed the entire house. Now I must get off here and go and sort out the bathrooms/ puke contamination zones.... Whenever you've got your head down the loo, you spot all the bit of dried-on sick you missed I find... nice!!

musical, sounds really good that your HCG is still going up, much more positive. Thank goodness! I will hope you get your scan tomorrow. How far along does he think you are then?

scream, ARGH!!!!! How exciting about your scan!!! Sounds wonderful. 18 days til my scan and I hope I can join you in celebration!

hate to say it, but I was convinced DD was a boy. Measured big on the bump measurements and femur length on scans before her birth, we thought a big boy. Convinced. Had the baby name book out looking up boys names on the ward. I was so surprised when she was a little girl! Have to say, I'd quite like another girl, I think they'd play well together, and we have all girls clothes. But I don't mind as long as the baby's healthy, and I'm sure if I have a little boy I'll be utterly delighted and sure that was what I thought/wanted all along!

jaggy, any news yet? Just means it'll be even better when you get your scan letter as you won't have long to wait!

Hello Music I am so glad it sounds so positive! My mum bled all the way through her last pregnancy, I think from 8 weeks she had to rest up. My sister is 11 and healthy. Could your HCG be in the twins range as this can make bleeding more likely I think? I really hope you het your scan tomorrow to save you waiting and

Scream great news on your scan and I am sure no brooking is sure to shrink those pesky fibroids!

Biscuits I am 15+2 now and I think I felt the baby a while ago but it is only when I have a really full bladder or after something else neither of which happen that often.
Dd if she doesn't remember or know the name of someone she will just call them Boy (Or girl) which I find a little hilarious, she hasn't quite got her genders right as she was telling me I was a good boy the other day.

I think this baby is another girl, which I think it will be lovely to have two little girls (although three with my sister here.) But I was secretly hoping for a boy as this is quite likely my last baby. Or at least for a looong time.

I am really not sure whether or not to find out as, I would love a surprise at the birth as we did find out with Dd so I want to know what the alternative is like. However, practically I think it will be useful in terms of maybe clearing out DD old clothes as we have kept everything, and it is taking up a lot of room. Also, if we did find out I am not sure how trusting I will be as my friend was told she was having a girl at 20 weeks and her son is now 6 1/2 weeks!

Such a hard choice!

I hope everyone is feeling fine and dandy!

Funny you should mention that Purplebuns. It is just within the twins ranges, but at the same time, they cross over so much that it's hard to tell.I also had a dream about being pregnant with twins when I must have been pregnant (though didn't know) - hmmm!

dream - I think I'm somewhere just over six weeks (judging by when FF said I'd ovulated and the CBD results). However, doctor suggests it's somewhat further. I did suspect I'd ovulated a week earlier, which could still be the case I suppose!

More bleeding now. Argh! Still staying more positive, but it's rather worrying/annoying. As DH put it, if everything is going ok in there (we're hedging our bets), this DC is going to be trouble..!

Dream - we've had some funny clingy night incidents too this week. Not as bad as that though, that really is training for a newborn!

I too have felt some fluttery things and midwife said it was likely to be baby as uterus has popped out from behind the pelvis now. All the books say second time around you 'know' it's baby not wind for sure which I am finding to be rubbish!

Glad to hear about the hog levels mrs - fingers still firmly crossed for your scan on mon.

Yay for your scan too scream!

Hello all. Working hard as usual here

FX for the scan to be on Monday musical.

Woo hoo for a good scan scream.

I'm going to phone the midwife to chase up about my appointment if I haven't heard by Friday. She said to do that if I'd not heard within a month and that'll be nearly a month.

I am off work and have DS's birthday to distract me so can cope with a few more days. He is going to be spoiled rotten btw - DH has gone a bit internet shopping happy while I have been at work! Also got the cake to plan and make.

If I go by FF I am 7+5 today.

I was feeling so grim (non-specific tiredness) today I had to lie around pathetically for a while to get up the energy to go to work. (evening shift) I cheered myself up by stopping at the shop and getting Irn Bru and various snacks to get me through.

Also bought baked goods for me and my workmates, this must have generated good karma...as one had had a boring morning and done about an hour's worth of my work for me :) :) I must have looked ridiculously happy and grateful when she told me!

fishcake I saw a midwife for about 10 minutes to register that I was pregnant, I won't see anyone now till 12 week scan. Then nothing till 20wk scan i think. Then community midwife at 24 weeks I think she said.

I really don't want to know the sex of this wee prawn, I loved finding out from DH last time. (he could only just speak as he was nearly greeting - aaw)

off work all week I meant, starting tomorrow :)

Wow Jaggy you sound so busy! Hope DS has a great birthday - is he 3? (sorry if that is too nosey, feel free not to answer , it's just my DS is 3 this week so wondered if they were the same age)

Make sure you remember to rest up anyway!!

No he's going to be 2. :) He is very cool just now and will give me kisses and cuddles on command unless he is busy. Although i do have to kiss any injuries better, I drew the line at his willy this morning Still not sure what was wrong with it, but I just kissed his (clean) nappy to keep him happy.

I am going to rest as much as possible, I remember from last pg that the only thing that worked was sleeping/resting so I'd better do it. Noting compared to The Puking here, my main gripes are sleepiness and shortness of breath. I had that last time too, either it's not quite as bad this time or I am panicking less about it.

Aw it is such a lovely age though isn't it! We still have to kiss things better too, and sometimes DS will return the favour if we hurt ourselves which is kinda cute! I think I have in the past had to divert from kissing his willy better too!

Scream, Scarlet, we KNEW we were having a girl - until DS was born! We'd asked not to be told at scans so I think the first thing I said to DS was, "But he's not a girl!"

musical, I have to admit that when I saw your HCG levels, I did wonder whether twins might be on the cards as well. I'm glad you'll be able to see what's going on in a day or two.

jaggy, "greeting"?! A while since I've heard that phrase - I miss Scotland!

dream, glad you are feeling better. The No Brooking + Pills combination is clearly working. Don't be too worried about taking the tablets - the reason that no drug is officially completely safe in pregnancy is because no manufacturer will (understandably) do drug trials in pregnancy. Of course, the morning sickness/hyperemesis has now stopped though so you are not going to need them again!

When did everyone go to the doctor? I might wait until if and when I get to 6 weeks and then call for an appointment. I can then think about whether we get a private scan at 8 weeks.

I did't go to a GP Bartlet - the system here is that you make an appointment directly with the commmunity midwife at the surgery. I was between 5 and 6 weeks when i went though.

I can't help using Scots words/slang all the time. I live in an area with a very erm... broad accent these days so they have actally increased in my vocabulary. I think I learned lots from my Dad and my Grandad when I was wee though. I put my 'jaicket' (sp) and baffies on etc... :) Dh is impressed that DS knows what his breeks are!

Bartlet, I was planning on going to the doctors this week (7 weeks ish?) - but I would have gone a week earlier, it was just the first appointment they offered me! Will probably still go if all turns out ok on Mon/ Tues.

Whenever I mention any potential twin signs (the hCG, the dream, more abdominal oddness), DH says "no, no twins please!". I told him we'll have what we get :P I know he'd be overjoyed with any healthy child (single or multiple) though, which is all we're hoping for (though being realistic) at the moment.

dream, if the pills are meaning you can eat and drink - and are therefore staying healthy (or healthier than you would be otherwise), then any tiny potential risk would be outweighed by the huge risks if you were still suffering from sickness every moment of the day!

I think I know where you are from, jaggy. Please keep on with it!

I'm actually from a place that doesn't use much Scots, but I think i sound totally different after moving here! My family are originally from another bit with a strong accent, but they moved before I was born.

I think I say braw about 400000 times a day now....

Defiantly twins

Oh god. Am bleeding slightly - not heavy, more blood-tinged discharge (sorry) at present. No cramps yet. Have phoned women's hospital who have said to just call GP/midwife in the morning. Am 14+4. Fuck fuck fuck.