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December 2011 - Support tights time!

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BeeMyBaby · 07/09/2011 18:00

Had no idea what to call it, sorry. Just googled third trimester and that was the recommendation...

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OiMissus · 27/09/2011 12:42

jomouse do not worry at all about the horrid kitty off xf. Even if she gets through this next stage, she won't go to the final, and by january you won't be able to name her or remember her - EVEN if your new DD is named Kitty. We try it every year, and every year without fail we can't name more than three of the acts. And I'm addicted to xf, I even watch the ITV2 programme, even though I CAN NOT stand the presenters.
So much for pelvic floors - great idea at 7am, then logged off and it went out of my mind. will do some now while I tuck into this piece of shortbread. :)

figgygal · 27/09/2011 13:24

I am soo forgetful about the pelvic floors tried to be good over weekend and failed spectacularly how many times do they say you have to do something before it becomes habit again?
DH and i are collecting names like nothing on earth he is currently called little Johnny and i do like it as a nn, in fact all of our names seem to shorten.

HoneyLovesCake · 27/09/2011 16:18

Oh plu that made me laugh! Just realised, the pains I've been feeling in my lower bump today could be linked to the number of pelvic floors I've done so far Hmm I can't help myself, whenever I read it on screen I just start doing them :o

I have had the most fun day, it's like Christmas here! Old tenant at DP's flat in London has apparently moved back to China & left a ton of stuff behind which was a total pain for him & his mate as they had to clear it all out before they could repaint but DP has brought lots of the best stuff home with him...we now have a comically large plasma tv :o Sure we'll get used to it but definitely not the size you'd put in a cornish cottage. Loads of electrical stuff, furniture & some lovely All Saints jackets & cardi's to encourage me to lose weight post-birth. Everything, including the tv is pretty much brand new, shocking that she'd leave it all behind but there were a lot of designer shopping bags so I guess she took the priciest stuff with her. Just a shame they didn't realise she was going to leave it like that as they had to dump a lot that could've been donated or freecycled.

msbuggywinkle · 27/09/2011 18:06

honey fabulous free shopping!

I've just got home, spent the afternoon at a home ed friend's house and the DDs both almost fell asleep on the way home. I'm hoping this means an early night tonight!

Have no idea what to make for dinner now, might be pasta with cheese sauce and broccoli for speed and not needing any brain involvement!

plupervert · 27/09/2011 18:40

Shopping-free shopping sounds even better! I had to take DS home today after just one stop, the library, where he insisted on running about with a green chair stuck to his arse. Then he had a tantrum outside.

Banana sorted out his mood to an extent, but by then I wasn't about to trust him any longer in town!

I hope to God this baby captivates him, or else we are in trouble; I will be banged up for ramming people with the pram as I attempt to catch a fleeing child!

On the plus side, nursery's SENCO told me he is very clever, which is nice... Smile Hmm

OiMissus · 27/09/2011 18:51

Just had the news that my next door neighbour gave birth to a 4lb 11oz girl this morning. Amy Rose.
She was 40wks +, and was told she was going to have a big baby. (there's hope for me yet!) she'd been in labour for only a few hours, but wasn't dilating, and the blood pressure dropped - had a c-section, as the cord was around her neck. Mum and baby very happy and doing well.
I don't know my neighbour very well, but I'm very happy to hear these stories where it all goes well!
Am v Envy of free allsaints clothing! Don't know what I'd do with a comically giant tv though! E-bay???! DH had one before he moved in with me, I laughed, it WAS NOT coming with him!

OiMissus · 27/09/2011 18:54

plu forgot to say congrats on having a very clever DS - with or without green chair attachments! Grin
I hope GingerBaby is clever... He's going to have to be on the ball to put up with DH's teasing, ...and my astronomical expectations!

figgygal · 27/09/2011 18:59

Oh my lord just watched Sunday's x factor after some of the comments yesterday. Gary barlows face at kitty's performance in her flashing leotard made me almost wee with laughter. Hadn't realised what a loon she was

OiMissus · 27/09/2011 19:19

The light up costume -with the window to show off the top of her tights - was the funniest thing I've seen in ages. She should have been laughed off the stage and escorted home.

HoneyLovesCake · 27/09/2011 19:45

Oooh what a teeny baby...you never know Oi, estimated weights from scans are known for being woefully inaccurate. I bet it's all water :)

It's a 46" tv in a room with beams you can bump your head on but apparently we're keeping it Hmm Not going to worry about it right now, gotta pick your battles & it'll be great post-birth when I'm lying around watching xmas movies :)

figgygal · 27/09/2011 19:54

She still less annoying than katie weasel though!!

I seem to have exploded in size today it must be water or baby has moved position. Cant believe still 10 wks to go to get even bigger

LittleMissFlustered · 27/09/2011 20:36

Don't forget Kathryn too, it's the other random K based spelling:) Went to school with at least seventy two of them in their variously spelled incarnations. Nightmare!

sevensevenseven · 27/09/2011 22:25

4lb 11 is tiny at 40 weeks! DS was 4lb9 when he was born at 35+5, I'm having extra growth scans due to him being small!

Kitty was hilarious on x-factor, which is a shame as it would have been quite good if she'd had some clothes on. I can't believe they put Goldie through though.

plupervert · 27/09/2011 23:10

Here's another post-partum fantasy: a good, hot bath! I love my water extremely hot, and since hot baths are a folk method of abortion, I haven't dared have a bath at all while being pregnant, for fear of boiling the baby! I seem to remember that an eggcup of milk and some lavender oil in a hot bath is just fantastic (good for stitches, too!). Soooo looking forward to that!

Any other ideas getting people misty-eyed? Grin

P.S. Thanks, OiMissus, nice to hear you have high hopes, too! I was a bit sad that the SENCO was reassuring me this was a good thing, and he would not "be singled out". Contrary to her idea, both DH and I are firmly of the opinion that "clever" is a compliment! but I suppose there are families in which cleverness is a burden. Poor mites. The only two worries I have about his being clever is that he may get bored and stop reading (as happened with DH), and that DD may not be clever (or not academically so), and both feel disappointed in herself, and that we are disappointed in her, which would make us all terribly sad. Talk about hurting a child's self-image! On the other hand, I really hated how my aunt defended her non-academic sons by rubbishing my academic interests and love of reading, so I'm damned if I'm going to play down any of DS's strengths, to make someone else feel better at his expense. There must be a less narrow-minded way of dealing with difference than my "Dear Aunt's"! [humph]

OiMissus · 28/09/2011 08:20

Morning, plu I have not given up my baths. I've always loved baths, and when I said I couldn't have them anymore my mum told me off. She's has super scorchio hot baths, and did so throughout her pregnancies. She says it's one of the pleasures when pregnant. So I took her word for it.
I don't go too /overly hot, but they are still hot and pleasureable. It's lovely to feel a bit floaty. - I'm careful about putting oil in as I'm scared I'll slip whilst trying to get out, so I enjoy splashing it on wet skin after - and just stick to moisturising bath foam. The baby doesn't kick or get active when in the bath, so I take it that he's comfortable with the temperature and finds the warmth as soothing and as calming as I do.

Cleverness is definitely a good thing!! We all want our little 'uns to have the best chances in life, so surely intelligence must help. Of course, it isn't everything, and there are other talents - such as creativity, that help and should be celebrated too. And of course, people can lead perfectly blissful lives without any special talents/gifts, but I don't know why anyone should be apologetic about a child being clever - how odd!!

Got my sizing scan this afternoon. :) (The one I should have had last week if they hadn't have kept us waiting so long until the department closed.) DH was supposed to have been away in London, so I invited my mum along, she is very excited. DH is now not in London, but happy for mum to come with me this time. :) (I'll have to tell the sonographer to try and keep the sex hidden, coz mum doesn't want to know.)

msbuggywinkle · 28/09/2011 08:23

More post birth fantasies? I'm with you on the hot bath, especially being able to get out of the bath without help! I've actually had about three practice runs of my post birth shopping spree, I've already booked us one festival and a week away next summer, being able to run after the DDs again and fitting on the slide at the playground again, being able to wear corsets, having a great excuse not to leave the sofa on Christmas day. Erm, can you tell that this is my last baby?!

plu dealing with difference is interesting, my DD1 is the exact opposite to DP and I, we're both arty, she has been slower than average in drawing reading and writing, but can do science and maths stuff a few years ahead of her age without paying any attention to what she is doing, then DD2 has been drawing recognizable people and cats since before she turned 2. We try to do the celebrating difference thing, they know that DP and I are good at different things so can help with different things, and that it is normal to all have different talents and that other people that we know are good people to ask about some other things.

mopsytop · 28/09/2011 08:35

I am taking baths! But I don't like them too hot anyway even when not pregnant. But they are still fairly hot though, just not boiling. I've been putting BioOil in my bath as well and just being careful when I get out. It's so relaxing. It's funny 'cos I rarely have baths when not pregnant but it's so nice to feel floaty and light, especially as getting increasingly uncomfortable as the weeks go by. Cannot believe have another 12 weeks of getting bigger - argh! Can barely tie my shoes as it is. I managed to do my bikini line a couple of weeks ago but fear I have now passed that stage. Will have to brave the waxing salon.

I don't think there is anything wrong with being academically clever or not, as the case may be. Everyone is different and has their own talents. From what I can see from my friends and acquaintances, being exceptionally academically gifted is not really linked to having an amazing career. I know people with fabulous jobs who are academically amazing and those with fab jobs who totally aren't. I also know academically clever people with not very fab jobs. It doesn't necessarily play that huge a role. Of course I am mainly comparing people here all from the same sort of background more or less (generally university educated) so that's just my not very scientific observation. But it seems that they put so much pressure on you at school, telling you your exams are so important and will affect your whole life so much, and it just doesn't seem that way to me. Life isn't that cut and dried I don't think. And I'd hate my child to grow up feeling inferior if they weren't academically top of the class, the way my sister did (this was nothing to do with my parents, but the teachers at school always comparing her to her sisters). She really lacked self-confidence as a result. She was seriously talented at music, like exceptionally so, but noone at school ever seemed to count that, it was all academic academic academic. So I don't want to have any pre-conceptions about my kids, whatever their talents (or not) I want them just to be happy to be themselves. Sorry, long post but I feel strongly about it!

plupervert · 28/09/2011 09:20

Thanks for all the discussion about intelligence! Has anyone read Malcolm Gladwell's "Outliers"? That has some really good discussions and ideas about success, with intelligence obviously a big part of the discussion - although, interestingly, he produces evidence that there is such a thing as being "intelligent enough". Worryingly for those who hope that merit will matter for success, this adequacy gives factors of class and luck a lot more sway. Since we seem to be coming out of a period of social mobility, I imagine a lot of people of the coming generation or so will be stuck, without that being acknowledged. The young of Greece are already angry that their generations seems likely to have nothing of the party which went on for a long time, and of course for the last few years, the feature pages of the papers have been full of stories about the schism between lucky babyboomers and harder-pressed generations coming up behind.

I think it could all still turn around, with some sort of strong neo-Hippy movement, "drop-outs" numerous enough to absorb the decrease in spending and debt needed to re-balance things. However, there has to be free will and choice in this movement, otherwise it would be an extreme injustice (forcibly "downshifting" a portion of the population - can you imagine?). Also, back-to-basics trends over the past few decades have often just meant an alternative kind of (expensive) consumption nevertheless, as minimalism and organic food ain't cheap, innit?! And you can't install solar panels and insulation at a rented house or flat!

Sorry for the morning rant. I do recommend Outliers for any parent; it is a lot more populist and easy-going writing than what I've splodged above! Wink

sevensevenseven · 28/09/2011 09:25

Just cutting in to remind you all to do your pelvic floors today!

OiMissus · 28/09/2011 09:34

As long as my little one doesn't grow up believing the world owes him a living, and wanting to be a famous celebrity, I'll be happy. :)
(And I'll be saving up for education just in case. I'm hoping that the state schools will be good enough, and so that any savings can be put towards university, if that's the path that is chose.)
Oh my word, just think, in 18 years time the babies that we are now carrying could be this week's freshers, leaving home and getting drunk and ... How awful!!! Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OiMissus · 28/09/2011 09:35

chosen! (Oh dear! Where was I educated?)

Good shout seven. :)

aethelfleda · 28/09/2011 09:41

Nag, nag, nag... :op

Cheers seven!! When my undercarriage survives DC3 (DD2 was 8 lb 11 oz!) I shall thank you.

I'm grumpy this morning, having had a lousy nights sleep, but the bords are singing and the sun is out so it's not all bad.

jo, pick the name you like- in Ten years time (or ten weeks, probably) no-one will remember who was i the X factor, lots of us don't even watch it!

aethelfleda · 28/09/2011 09:42

Sorry, the birds are singing! (don't know what bords are, some random Star Trek mutants probably...)

msbuggywinkle · 28/09/2011 09:56

squeeeeeeeeze Grin

mopsytop · 28/09/2011 10:00

Thanks for the reminder - I keep meaning to do mine when showering/brushing teeth and forget Blush. Rubbish!