December 2011 - Support tights time!

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Had no idea what to call it, sorry. Just googled third trimester and that was the recommendation...

at Oi, glad you had a nice(ish) time though, deffo think you should go again before bump gets too big & uncomfortable!

I'm still taking pregnancy vitamins (and extra calcium & vit d, and my normal iron tablets) as I have an awful relationship with food. I can managed 2-3 days in a row having 2000cals, but then I get back into my old 1000cal a day habits & DH has to make me loads of food/smoothies to get my calorie intake up..as I just can't get my head around eating 2000cal worth of food day in, day out.

27wks on thursday, and Squatter is moving around alot less than normal. Everything else seems fine (heartbeat, I've got no pain/discomfort etc)..could it be getting to the 'too big to do somersaults' stage already?

I've got my antenatal appt and scan later today (4pm) to see if I'm carrying a baby or a teenager - so I'll let you know if they are now too big to turn around. (I'm 29+5)
I get lots of kicks and probably shoulders and head digging into things these days, quite often both sides at once (very top right, just under my breast and lower left towards my hip). I'm secretly wishing that the scans and heart monitor things have been a bit faulty and I'm carrying twins. One of each would be a dream. I know I'm dreaming, and I'm probably just carrying England's next full back (or whatever the big rugby position is!).
We shall see!
I'll keep you updated. :)

Hmm I'm a bit unsure if I should ring the hospital midwife or if I'm worrying over nothing, since Sunday movements have decreased a lot, and aren't as strong, I can't see my tummy move anymore... but I was at the mw on Monday and the heartbeat was fine, so I'm not sure if he has just moved??

honey I have 2 awful parents who I don't talk to at all (for different reasons), had a shite childhood, and I'm looking forward to giving bump all the things I never had, like birthdays and Christmas! I feel for you still having contact, as the break away was what I needed. It must be really difficult, but remember you have us to talk to :) x

hi all, I seem to be a cpl weeks behind everyone else, so my bean is still very active and kicking me all over. It sometimes feels like it can't be just one baby Oi as it kicks/punches me simultaneously in lower left and upper right tummy but I guess it's just stretching out. I think the scans are pretty thorough these days so I doubt there are two hiding in there :) But you never know!

They do say the baby kicks less from 28 weeks or thereabouts don't they? as less room to move. But I'd say Kri5ty to just give your midwife a ring to ask, I think always ring and ask if you are worried. That's what they are there for, no?

I haven't even thought about labour, I don't want to, ugh. But I know I should as prepared is the way to go. Kind of waiting until the antenatal classes really.

Head seems better today, thank goodness. Let's hope it stays that way.

I am taking pregnacare still as when I bought them it was 3 for 2 so I got 3x3month packets. Then I got pregnant first month we tried (i.e. had only started taking them) so basically had 9 months worth. I take them before bed though and you're supposed to take with meals but I always forget. Maybe they won't absorb as well in that case, no idea.

kristy - there's never any harm in calling to set your mind at rest, but as you saw your MW on Monday, they may just advise you to wait a day or two to see if things change.
I feel really sorry to those of you with crappy parents. Mine used to shout a lot (at each other) when we were little, but they are brilliant now, so loving and supportive.
...Unlike my next door neighbours. Last night I was in tears, listening to their baby crying and screaming for HOURS. I couldn't hear any signs of them going to her, or trying to console her, eventually the dad just started screaming about having to go to F-ing work, etc. but still they ignored her - as far as I can tell. I wanted to shout through the wall to them to just pick her up and love her. I hate to think of her lying in a wet nappy, hungry, or just needing a cuddle. :(

Yeh, I may wait until tomorrow, just had a bath to see if he moved, but no such luck... if I hadn't heard the heartbeat on Monday I would prob have called by now.

mopsy its crazy isn't it how they stretch and kick/punch at the same time!! Mine used to do a turbo kick lol, I'm convinced it was a super baby, because even I can't kick that fast!! I haven't thought about labour yet either, but I think that's because I have already been told by the consultant I'm having an early epidural and most prob assisted delivery... feel like there isn't much point me worrying, I'll learn breathing at ante natal but apart from that I will be lying on my back for hours!

oi that's horrible :-( I know you don't always know what's going on, but surely you would have heard them trying to comfort baby, or at least trying to walk around the house calming! I give people dirty looks in the street when I hear them talk to children like crap, I understand It will be very stressful at times, but its no reason to lose it the way I see people doing... maybe its just because I had such a bad childhood, I've been on the other side of it... OH has too, to an extent... this is going to be one spoilt baby (in a loving way rather than materialistic!)

Ooo that was a longer post than I intended!

msbuggy any news on insurance? Hope you're feeling a bit better

Ps oi do u know the full price of the massage? I know you get it cheaper through aqua natal, I may go for the massage tete, if not its debenhams!

Nope, not heard back from insurance yet. But I'm told they take forever by a friend who was burgled last year.

With movements, there shouldn't be a reduction in amount, but baby will have more defined wake and sleep periods and movements will be slower. Any change in frequency needs a call to the mw.

DD3 seems to like bouncing most of the day, but she isn't waking me at night. DD2 was the same and was an amazing sleeper, so I have everything crossed! DD1 has woken up feeling pants, croaky voice and spotty so we're taking it easy today then my doula is coming round this evening, hurray for pregnancy massage, she is very very good at it.

kristy the massage is £62 midweek, and I think either £64 or £68 at weekends. So it'd be worth it to come to an aquanatal class on a Sunday morning for £5, and then book in whilst you're there to get it at half price. :) Only trouble is the massage has to be on a Tuesday.
Aquanatal is cancelled this Sunday though. :(

kri5ty, mine had a quiet spell a few weeks ago, and the active periods are now more defined, with longer quiet periods in between - basically seems like a longer cycle - but I've seen the midwife and had the heartbeat monitored in the meantime, so am reassured that it's a changing cycle, and also, as mopsytop mentioned, it could be it's getting too difficult to turn around (thinking about it, no wonder swaddling is so comforting for newborns, if they are swaddled in our flesh for the last trimester )! Also, when I was trying to sort out how and when and where to do our "20-week" anomaly scan, I learned that the window of dates given for performing it is defined at the upper end partly by the baby's positioning (at the lower end, it is defined by needing to see whether certain structures have developed).

Call your antenatal care number, though. On my maternity record book, there's a number for up to 18 weeks, and afterwards one has to call the emergency gynaecology unit: I guess because our babies can survive if born now. And if any of us has such an early birth, we'll all be here with support! I will personally send that person a mobile broadband dongle so she can MN from the hospital!

Morning ladies! Looks like I need to be more diligent about taking my vitamins as you seem to be doing so well. AWCH there is no way I eat 2000cals a day, even with cake & endless snacking. I've never understood how anyone could & I've always believed that different people just need different amounts as I was always really healthy pre-pregnancy.

sorelip I'm based in West Cornwall & there's only 1 hypnobirthing practitioner down here; where are you based? You've probably got more classes available to you wherever you are, we don't have much down here. Here's the link if you want to check www.hypnobirthing.com/england.htm

kri5ty thanks for sharing about your parents; I feel the same way about giving LO the life I dreamt of. I had very occasional contact with my dad growing up & when I was about 12 I asked him to stop seeing me & he said ok & just did . To this day I still don't understand how a dad can just walk away from their child even when asked but given how incredibly difficult my mother is to deal with I don't completely blame him & obviously I'm better off without someone like that in my life. Things came to a bit of a head this morning when I saw I had an email from my mother in my inbox & I started to have palpitations & tunnel vision. Once I calmed myself down I realised she's far too big a source of stress for me to be dealing with right now so I've emailed her & begged her to just give me a break for the time being & not contact me at all. Hopefully it'll work, could go either way but I'm hopeful. She's mean & spiteful but I have to believe she wouldn't intentionally hurt me she's just really messed up. I wish it could be a permanent break but we own a house together so things have to stay relatively amicable for financial reasons. :(

Really long post, sorry I think I needed to vent, hopefully I won't have to mention her again & will only have good happy pregnancy things to discuss. Speaking of which, one of DP's friends is giving us her fancy cotbed & changing table. I hadn't planned on having either; thought I'd bedshare & make do with a changing mat on the bed, but they are solid wood & from Harrods so I couldn't really say no :o Still plan on bedsharing so it may never be used as a cot but eventually LO will want their own bed right?

have never quite seen how i could NOT eat 2000 cals - seem to be starving all the time at the moment...

Haha that made me chuckle... having only recently upgraded to broadband from a dongle! He is moving a little... but I can barely feel it, and it isn't as often.. although I'm not sure if that's because I can't feel it as much?

I'm going to concentrate on counting today and will ring tomorrow :)

oi I'd need to buy a costume though... so it may be more the same price by the time I have done that? Actually do you do arm work there? My triceps are in desperate need of attention since I stopped pole dancing and also I didn't realise how much work kept me fit lol

Oh fancy Harrods furniture, yep, definitely rude to say no to that! :) Even if it's just for daytime naps - then when the baby is older, if you want it to move into it's own bed, it won't be alien. :)
I've just got to the bit about bedsharing in the Breastfeeding book, and it makes more and more sense to me. We'll see what works for us when Gingerbaby arrives. We have a crib set up - so we've got the option. After listening to the poor baby next door, I'm even more convinced about more nurturing contact.

I'm the opposite hun... I used to eat sooo much... now I'm struggling to get 2000 :(

Oh forgot to say, some clever marketing agency just sent me 5 chocolate bars. I kid ye not, am in chocolate heaven.
The message is "Heard the Wispa about giving your marketing a boost to help you reap the Bounty and because we're such smarties we'll be Kinder on your budget."
I shan't be blackmailed, but I will eat.

(kristy hardly any arm work at aquanatal - mainly pelvic/legs/back/core work.)

Mmm kinder... my favourite after galaxy!

If you just stick your arms under the water and pump them back and forth during aquanatal I find it is an okay-ish workout. Well, better than nothing! At least there is the force of the water to push against.

I would say I had no problem eating 2000 calories a day - eating less is the problem! But I am a greedy pants. I need to be watching myself constantly or I would be a perpetual lard ass (apart from just a pregnancy lard ass which is the current situation). But it's not normal food that's the problem, I don't need huge portions. If I never drank alcohol or ate crisps or choc, I'd be totally grand. The problem is, if there is a big pack of crisps or biscuits I will eat them ALL! I have no self-control. The only way to manage it for me is just not to have them in the house. I thought actually when I got preg I'd lose weight as no more yummy glasses of wine/pints of beer but it hasn't happened. Sigh.

Morning all! Looks like work have finally found someone to cover my maternity leave, so I can train him over the phone, and relax a bit.

I'm in SE London, and the classes I've seen are for two days. Thing is, they are in November, which might be a bit late.

I'm sorry so many of you have crappy parents. The only comfort you can take is knowing that you will be nothing like them.

sorelip I am doing classes in Nov too... might be late but better than nothing aye?

For all the second time mums out there... I have a question... if you are giving birth in a hospital... when does someone look at your birthplan... do they look at it at all... ? How come no one has ever asked me where I want to give birth or are you supposed to tell tell them only when labour has already started?

Oi Think I'd be inclined to give the marketing company whatever they want; as long as they promise weekly chocolate deliveries! :o

sorelip I wish I still lived in London for things like this! There seem to be quite a few practitioner's in SE London, I'm sure you can find a course sooner if you go through them...unless someone on here can recommend a really good CD? On the site under when should I start it says "Somewhere between 25-30 weeks is ideal, as the success of the course is strongly linked to how much practice you do. However, provided you can finish the course before you give birth, it's still going to help." So don't worry to much if you can't get to an earlier class.

Oooh Honey, so glad I've found someone else who doesn't get the 2000cal thing, it's just so much food!
Also (brace yourselves ladies) I've gone off chocolate again (went off it in the first trimester)!!

Honey (again!), I've not seen my father since I was 5 (when he got a new wife), and although I've told my mum I'm pregnant via email I've not seen her since 2008. I've got no feelings towards my father (aside from HA! when I heard he got divorced etc), but my mother is a vindictive bitch (who constantly plays the vicitim card) who I'm glad is out of my life. I feel a bit sad when I think about what LO will say when it asks about its family on my side...but it's exciting planning a happy childhood for someone and knowing exactly what NOT to do!

Our life insurance has come through, I'm now worth £160k. Yay me! I know it's a bit morbid, but has anyone else thought about taking it out?

AWCH i have life cover through work and through a joint policy my husband took out (he is self employed and needed cover and was peanuts to put me on too) so i am double covered. Will need to think of a will next especially with the LO.

I am starting my ante natal apps on 04th October didnt want to leave to November and luckily got in to the October classes they were already quite full. Epidural talk at the hospital the other day was fascinating there was a lovely midwife and anaesthetist there talking us through painrelief and found it really useful, i guess we get the same type of thing at the local classes.

I find LO is very active lunchtimes after eating and then in the evenings from about 7.30 through to 9 and then again at bedtime he has kicked me a few times while writing this actually. He likes Pepsi Max (bad me!!).

As for the 2000 calories its funny i have counted calories in my head for about 10 years after i lost weight got down to a 12/14 and managed to stay there. I count them everyday though doesnt usually stop me from eating what i wanted however since i have been PG find myself screaming past 2000 calories easily. I usually over count as they say the average person will underestimate their calorie intake by 10%.

28 week appointment this afternoon eek!! I shouldnt have eaten that half pack of licquorice allsorts this morning my sugar levels are going to be through the roof!!

AWCH sounds like we have the same mother ;) I feel sad when I think about how close I was to my nan & knowing that my LO's will never have that relationship with their's; DP's mum is no prize either. Still they'll have 2 parents who want them, love them & will show them that every day so I they'll be just fine :)