January 2012 - Thread 4

[shonnomanom]

Can believe we are on Thread 4 already! We must chat too much

Morning all!

It turns out, to make me human, I bascially need 11hours sleep...

Abi's been jumping about lots today. Been chuckling at my belly as it dances.

mia Bloody white-van-men! Think your DD has the measure of them though.

I think linea nigra is there 'cos of all the hormones...the ones wot changes your nipple colour etc, it's the stretching of the belly that kicks this off. Some women (like my mum) get Chloasma too, so I'm looking forward to that. Should fade after birth (though chloasma doesn't!).

cakes I love the thought of old lady driving...but doubt bump would let me get that clost to the windscreen, and my instructor wouldn't like it. Good luck tomorrow.

Good to hear that you're all okay Cakes. And it does sound like your hormones are giving you a hard time. The amount of times I've wanted to just run away. DH offers now to make pancakes when I feel like that. And I never feel like running away when I'm not pregnant (excluding just post pregnancy).

Must have a look at those books too.

We assembled the cot today after moving DD into her big bed last month. Feels so weird to be getting a few things ready now.

I've no Linea Nigra this time round. I had it with DD but it disappeared after the birth.

Mamamia, I really had a good laugh at asking that ignoramus if he needed you to reverse it. Great comeback.

Just out of interest - the doctor seemed really concerned that I wasn't resting enough. As I work from home (and not for very many hours atm) I kind of thought I was probably taking it easier than most and I'm not sure why she asked, perhaps because I was so shaken and upset .

Anyway, part of me is rebelling in a kind of "women used to plough the fields and do all the washing by hand before dropping a sprog in a hedgerow and going straight back to work so why on earth should I be exempt from cleaning the loo?"

Whilst part of me is just sobbing with relief and saying "thank you for taking the decision out of my hands because I'm just so tired and wobbly and all I want to do is cook and make things whilst watching crappy TV and having lots of lie downs".

Have decided to do what GP says as stupid feminist/independent ideals are all well and good, but if I'm being offered the option to just rest and sit down and that's what I really want to do, then perhaps I should just give in and do it.

It almost makes me long for an old-fashioned society where I'm just expected to look pretty, knit little bootees and grow our babies, because at least then I wouldn;t feel so fucking guilty for doing just that.

Sorry all - hope you're not fed up with me chattering on so much, but it's such a relief to have somewhere to put down all my worries and know that others are worrying about similar things too.

Slightly scrambled - magic pancakes?

Morning all. Hope you're feeling ok now cakes sounds scary, take care of yourself.

Yep linea nigra, I got it with dd but no sign yet this time.

We really need to get on laying carpet and painting in baby's room, nursery furniture delivery is due next week and we have nowhere to store it.

I've been doing research into homebirth and birthing pool hire, all being well I think that's the way I want to go, just slightly apprehensive about tearing/hemorrhaging again as we are about 30 mins from the hospital.

Hope you are all coping with the warmer weather. Does it make anyone else really tired? I've dropped dd off this morning and done a few household jobs and could really do with a nap now

Oh I concur on the magic Pancakes!! Was visiting a friend earlier this week and she made pancakes. Delicious fluffy pancakes. I must have ate about 6 of them and she put loads in a tub for me to take home. There is nothing better than pancakes and tea after a stressful morning trying to get dd to get ready in time for nursery.

Cakes I know where your coming from. I too have been told to slow down and do less. Although dont think I am doing as much as I should be.

My daily routine consists of the morning fight with dd before nursery, lunch after nursery, persuading her to have a nap(usually involves a run in the car) after lunch before to taking her to my parents before work at 3pm. Pick her up just after 6 then home for dinner and then time to persuade dd that she has to go to bed. Once she's in bed I usually just crash if I havent got energy to do any housework. And also the weekly Brownie meetings that I have to prepare for and our Mother & Toddlers group.

Ok maybe when I write it down it does look like a busy day maybe everyone has a point.......

hi everyone,

cakes - I half read your earlier post about DH making you get back on the horse, and for some reason I thought he was taking you outside for a quicky!! Must make sure I read more carefully.

mia well done for having a go at WVM. They really are odious. Do they have to get a special licence, do you think, to make sure they're all as foul as each other?

red - would love to meet for a ! I'll skip the book though, thank you - I'm really bad at reading anything even vaguely informative, and currently if at least one person isn't murdered, preferably in a Nordic wood, I won't manage to concentrate on it! I'll PM you.

giraffe I was talking to my MW about homebirths earlier. She pretty much immediately said they keep having to cancel them round us due to staff shortages, which was really annoying. I'm desperate for one now I know it's unlikely!

Hope the rest of you are well!

miamama, that's fab, you deserve a prize! Am thoroughly pissed off with the archetypical white van men (though I know a lovely one!) - in recent weeks have had cat calling and obscene gestures from two white vans and several obnoxious driving incidents where they appear to think they are above the law and can not only speed but drive dangerously and aggressively close (I slow down ) and pull out causing the rest of us to slam on the brakes. Honestly, you'd think they'd want to go out of their way to prove the stereotype false... idiots.

cakes you do sound a bit cheerier, which is great, and am so glad things are ok. I really want to read that book - in fact it's the one that was written by my yoga instructor, so I'm getting the short version every week in our discussions before the yoga class. It makes an awful lot of sense to me.

scrambled, mmm, pancakes... we have the cot up too and every day I have a little stare at it and feel all smushy. Having said that, I read the list of things I need for the baby's birth/bringing home etc last night and was able to tick off precisely two things - the cot and a blanket. Once I make a couple more sheets I'll be able to tick that off too! But there are about a thousand things on the list so I really out to get cracking.

Not sure if I posted about this before but the bad news for me is that DH is now being sent overseas for eight out of ten weeks in Oct/Nov and into Dec. He's going to miss almost all of the NCT classes and much of the time we had allocated for purchasing things. Am properly gutted, but the important thing is that he will be around in early 2012, so there's not much he can do. He feels awful as well, the poor chap. So if you could all somehow magically make the war in Libya stop, say, next week, that'd be fab. Just for my own selfish reasons, you understand...

Magic pancakes sound good. Do they work gluten-free???

cakes I'm def. with you. I want a society where one decent wage can raise a family. Would love to be a stay-at-home Mum, but we're not going be able to manage that!

Despite working p/t I'm beginning to get moments of "humm, think you're pushing it a bit girl". Yesterday I was stood working out breaks and training someone and serving and doing weird hip rotations in an effort to ease some mild cramping my belly...that was one of those moments. I'm just so fed up paranoid that if I say I want to take it a little more easy, they'll use it as an excuse to stick me on a checkout for my entire time (which will stress me no end), and I'll get even less of the work done that I'm meant to be before mat. leave. Not only that, the other leader on my section's got a wrist injury and HAS to wear a support, meaning he can't be on section...meaning, (somehow) we've just lost his hours, rather than swopping him with someone, meanign any time I am meant to be getting off-section has gone...again.... Excellent...

Oh gods, I've eaten a whole roll and half an apple and feel sick. Not even that huge yet. I'm gonna need a drip soon. People that are noticing my weightloss a bit now...and I'm now getting accused of not eating enough. Maybe they're right. Doing my sodding best though.

Yes, heat's bugging the life out of me, slowing me down and making me tired. BUT it is drying copious amounts of washing for me, so can't all be bad.

oeisha I'm a bit envious of your weight loss which is probably unreasonable to think and especially to say. But so long as you're not suffering too much from it (I guess general weakness and anaemia are things to look out for) then all the studies show that it doesn't affect the little one in the slightest. The baby will literally take what it needs (out of your bones if necessary!) so if you were healthy to begin with then everything should be fine. The main worry is really you and your health, but you sound well enough in yourself apart from the nausea. Hope that reassures you a bit, but I know it must be worrying. I just realised how bossy I sound on here sometimes - it's unintended! - so apologies if I come across that way

I've piled on heaps of weight this pregnancy due to fracturing my ankle just before I conceived and to all the nausea (but not vomiting) and indigestion of the first trimester. I haven't weighed myself since I was weighed at the 12 week scan, but I'd put on a stone at that stage. I do think it's levelled off since then. I'm a bit upset about this - it's not pretty, let's put it that way - but I know it'll all sort itself out after the baby is born - it will be great to be out and about on maternity leave instead of stuck behind a desk all day.

Oeisha - I feel for you about the weightloss. I want to offer loads of suggestions of things to eat, but I remember how awful I felt when I was sicky and people talking about food really didn't help, so just try and go with calories for now to make sure you can keep functioning and worry about nutition second - the main thing is to keep the weight up for both of you, so anything you fancy you should eat.

ghost so sorry to hear about your DH vanishing off. I have every Sunday free, in fact my DH has to drive past Witney on the way to his Sunday volunteering, so if you want company, and don't mind me turning up horribly early and going home rather late (think first light to last light!) I could get him to drop me off at/near yours and we can eat and watch crappy DVDs and do sewing and have a nap. Just a random offer if you get really fed up. Alternatively you are welcome to come to mine any day you want for much the same activities!

Also am really jealous you get to do Yoga with Nicole - can you ask her if she knows anyone enar me that she can recommend? I'm giving up on Pilates, I don;t think it's meant to be as I keep getting ill (or whiplash) when I'm supposed to be going. Anyway, it's help calming down and meditating that I need more, I think.

Fryn - ask for the Homebirth anyway - easier to opt out than opt in and you might get lucky...

Scrambled and ghost - I love looking at the cot. So cute. I wish I could leave it made up with blankies, but it would make it far too tempting for the puss cats!

thanks cakes that's a really lovely offer! I should definitely plan to come visit one Sunday and maybe we can take in the delights of babyworld together. And perhaps you could remind me how to knit one, pearl one so I can take up knitting!

As for Nicole, she definitely has some very interesting things to say. I'll ask her if she knows anyone teaching yoga near you whom she could recommend. She's a doula as well - I'd love a doula but I don't think we can justify the money, unfortunately. However I do know she offers one-off couples sessions in which she talks to you and your birth partner about all the crucial birth stuff - do you think it might be worth it in place of the NCT classes you were thinking about? No idea what she charges but surely one evening would be less expensive than NCT, and it would be tailored to your questions. She's thoroughly lovely. Since my DH is missing most of the NCT stuff I'm thinking about asking her to come along and talk to us, as I think she would be able to explain things better than I can to him.

The NCT for us would def be all about the meeting people thing, as I'm pretty well informed on birth stuff and DH has read the purple book cover to cover, which is a start! I'm just going to keep doing my best to meet people and see what happens - it would be lovely to hang out some more with you and I'd be happy to set you up on some needles!

Just let me know when you need some company and we'll sort it!

Makes sense! Nicole says that the active birth website is the place to check, but there's nowhere listed near you unfortunately.

She also very politely asked if you wouldn't mind reviewing the book on amazon to help spread the word, if you liked it - I said I thought you'd be ok with that

lol if you guys meet up you will totally be calling each other 'cakes' and 'ghost'! nice that you are close enough to each other though and at the same stage of pregnancy!

lol - I will when I've finished it!

Yummy - hello and welcome. Do you want to tell us a bit more about you? Age? Other DCs? What kind of pregnancy you've had? What kind of birth you're hoping for? It's nice to find out a bit more about new people so we can integrate them quickly!

Mia - tbh we've met once already and are FB friends (we met on the expecting in Oxfordshire thread). I actually have more problems not referring to ghost's DH by name on here!

well ive been to see midwife regarding weight gain as i was a bit worried i was putting on too little and she said its normal for the weight to be just baby. she did measure my bump and has moved my due date forward a week so AME IS NOW DUE 14TH JAN 2012!!!! so excited as ive now only got 14 weeks left!!!!

That's odd - I'm due on the 12th and I calculated I had 15 weeks left.

cakes definitely planning on asking for it regardless. Apparently "things will be changing" soon, but she didn't clarify if that was for the better or worse! Ah well, guess we'll see.

oeisha - gosh, you make me glad I'm in a dull office!

You've also all reminded me I must dig out the crib from the garden shed. Still can't remember what it's doing there, but given the garden spider infestation, it certainly won't be me getting it!

ghost what rotten luck about your DH. Let's hope it is all over much sooner rather than later. But as you say, so long as he's there for the main bit, that's something!

I wish you'd stop talking about pancakes - I've already gorged on an enormous cheesy sandwich and fries, but not I want lovely fluffy pancake satisfaction. I really will be the size of a house by the time this little one arrives.

yes I think cakes is right about due dates - I'm due on the 12th and have 15 weeks left too.

according to my nifty app, it's 104 days to go!

Evening all :)

Glad to hear you're feeling a bit better cakes

We had our extra scan this morning to check the spine that squiggler wouldn't show off properly last time. She showed it off better today and all is OK - we were in and out in 10mins this time. She's grown a lot bigger in the extra 3 weeks - not much space in there now!

yummy I'm nearish to you - which hospital are you going for?

evening gorgeousnessess. A very warm welcome to you yummybunny I think you'll find this a lovely thread full of warm and friendly folks who are superbly supportive and kind. My new bestie online friends, i don't know where i would have been over the last few weeks without you guys :)

However can you all stop making me feel inadequate with your nursery's, cots painting, carpet laying and crafting. I have done nothing except bought few things. At this rate DH will be assembling the moses basket while i'm still in hospital. :)

I didn't think midwifes were meant to alter dates according to bump measurements as they're only a guideline and depend on many factors other than the size of baby?

E.g. I was measuring 2 weeks ahead at 24 weeks, but my due date didn't change

welcome yummy! Congrats on team blue. Feel free to update our stats thread if it takes your fancy.

Thank you for the moral support re: weightloss. I know it's a weird thing to worry about, and my MW will probably tell me to get over it, but well. I wouldn't be me if I weren't a neurotic bag of something. I guess I'm more concerned as it obv. isn't just a first trimester/nausea thing. I've not had a bad time of it in terms of nausea/sickness until this week really, and even then I just FEEL terrible rather than being sick most times. I just have no appetite at all - which is so very unlike me as I love food normally. Whilst I was nil-by-mouth Saturday I didn't get hungry at all, just headachey. Just not normal...

parsley Yay! Re:scan.

I'm going to cheer myself up this evening by ordering the cot and looking at suitable bag for hospital (my current gym bag is literally older than me, my Mum took it to college with her in the 1960s).