January 2012 - Thread 4

[shonnomanom]

Can believe we are on Thread 4 already! We must chat too much

Spagbolagain - I can only add I have had 2 home births and can only say that climbing into bed after giving birth was truly wonderful moment. I had my community midwife deliver my baby last time so she knew what I wanted. Even thinking of a birthing pool for this one. Last time I made my self a nest on the floor and gave birth standing supported by dh. Had a natural physiological 3rd stage to deliver placenta. The only down side was midwife turned up with out gas and air as she was worried I would deliver before she got there. I am dealing with giving birth better and getting more prepared mentally with each one.

Oh nanny-that sounds so lovely_i really would love to give birth like that, but sadly I think it isn't an option for me :(

My dh has just made me laugh. My belly has gone all tight and hard and I said "ooh come feel this" and he said said are you having one of those "higgs boson contractions"

Why DH do I have large hadron collider in there instead of a womb? bless him :)

fish "Higgs bosons" love it. Totally what I'm gonna call them from now on.

supa Congrats! Wleocme to team pink.

Fucking terrible day this end. Strated at 2am with pretty bad abdo pain. Rang triage who agreed with my assessment of a bad IBS attack. Took paracetamol and went back to sleep for a bit. About 8 woke up and went for a wee....and pain's back, only this time I'm vommiting too. 20 friggin phonecalls later I'm booked in with OOhours GP (having phone tirage at Stepping Hill who again ruled out baby-problems). The doc there's as mad as a bag of bagers and not only managed to give me 2 different DOBs in the same note, but essentially panicked and booked me into Surgical Admissions in Stockport.
So, after some faffing from her, we go there and on the ward. I finally get a canula and bloods take about 2.5h into being there. Finally get to start to see a doc after about 4 hours, only she gets beeped away. Finally at about 7h I see a doc who's wondering what the fuck I'm doing there and not in Early Pregnancy (I try pointing out EP it for -16wks, but nope). Anyway, I end up in Maternity Triage who are a bit confused, as it's blatantly not baby, but as they have an OBGYN on their way, the keep me there for a check over. This takes about 90mins of waiting, but they did finally feed us toast - me and DH (been nil-by-mouth all day, not eaten since 7pm Fri).

Anyway, it's either ligament pain, but probably an IBS attack.....as we diagnosed at 2-friggin-am. Much better now, much less pain. Just knackered...and very grateful for the lovely people in Stockport Maternity Triage. The nurses on the other ward were great too, just a shame there were so few docs about it took them 7h to work out I was "in the wrong place".

Off to bed for some decent sleep and maybe a nom on my pillow in the middle of the night.

Rest well oiesha sounds like you had quite an ordeal. How painful and annoying.

Stayed up much too late watching calender girls last night. DD came in at 7 and now I'm hugging a cup of tea. Soo tired, but all my own fault.

Oh what a day oiesha, hope u managed to get a good night sleep and feel better today.
Strangely enough I was allowed to wake up naturally this morning. No alarms set and dd is still asleep in her own bed. Just wondering if I can sneak through for cuppa without waking her...

Oiesha, that sounds awful, poor you.
Nanny01, that sounds just perfect, that's what I would like (except I think I'd like the gas an air as well!). It's just a bit difficult because in RL there is so much negativity and people are so utterly misinformed about homebirth and what actually happens if complications happen. I have heard people be horribly judgemental about it, when they quite blatantly have no idea how the risks are managed and the robust research which is out there- views are based on anecdotes. So if we do go for it (still a big IF!) I think I will keep it to myself.

Also loving the Higgs Bosons. yep, I can well believe there are some major particle collisions going on in there.......

Thank you guys. Much, much better today. Solidly slept alstnight too. Part of me feels like such a plank, as had I gone with my instinct, not that of DH (who made me ring Stepping Hill and thus the OOH doc) I'd have had a miserable day, but at least one at home. Can't really take responsibility for the wasted time either. Had they just had some form of initial assessment when I arrived I'd have been outa there a lot sooner.

nanny I love the sound of your home birthing experience. I just know with Abi, I want to be in hospital. With my family things have a habit of going tits-up last minute (cords round shoulders, severe jaundice, bad abruptions etc), so at least with 1st I want help THERE...and a nice birthing pool. Not gonna fit one in this gaff. That is, if the snow doesn't force my hand to having a home birth...

I considered a hb but last time I hemmoradged and along with some other health complications I think my consultant may just laugh me out of the room if I asked!

I also watched calendar girls last night and am suffering for it now. Dd is being very clingy and just wants her mummy whereas I would like to leave her with dh and go back to bed.

Not much to update here except to say that I've just made the chocolate cola cake that cakes mentioned. It is taking all the willpower I have not to pop it out of the tin and devour it (it's still cooling).can't wait [drools]

Oh oeisha you poor thing. You must be exhausted. I hope you're feelng a lot better.

nanny I love the sound of a homebitth. My DH along eith anybody else I mention it to just seem so concerned and think I'm being mad to consider it. I just know I get mote anxious in hospitals and to have your own bath or shower and bed just sounds perfect, especially when you're exhausted and have s tiny newborn in your arms. I'm still working on trying to persuade him, I'm using the snow argument to see if he will be persuaded more!

deesus I'm in SE London. If anybody is near by give me a shout! :)

I just been sick :(

I feel ok now but bluergh.

Still frikkin exhausted but ok, belly's still a bit tender and Abi's very quiet. Off for more sleep and then maybe a swim tomorrow. Back to work Tues.
Hope we're all ok!

Hi all. Had fourteen weekend here. Went down to dorset with dh on sat for a mini holiday. Started feeling queasy sat night, had v rest less night, then on sunday started throwing up, diarrhoea, running atemp, lots of abdominal pain, very tender bump and joint pains. Dh had to drive me back home first thing (2 and a half hours in the car, fun) with a couple of emergency puke stops. Slept for 11 hours last night and feel a little better today, but still rough as anything. Thank heavens for sproglet who kept up a merry round of kicks and squirms to reassure me. I was so scared I'd cause it problems.

Rotten weekend. Phone auto complete is a bit temperamental.

oeisha - what a complete nightmare I have ibs to but fortunately not for a while. Hope it all settles down and you can relax.

ChocaMum - re home birth you can book for homebirth and still change your mind. I think it is easier to do it that way round as they like to know who they will probably be delivering, not sure you can change your mind if going to the hospital. My dh was nervous about our first home birth as he wasn't sure what to expect. Afterwards I think we both felt more empowered as he was made to feel important and the midwife let him support me through labour she sat on the sofa doing a few notes with out being intrusive for the 5 1/2 hr labour and then got her gloves and apron on got a mat and the delivery kit and delivered baby followed by cleaning the room and helping me bath. Last time with ds2 she was really good. If your in London you would still be able to to get to hospital if needed so like me you shouldn't worry. With dd1 ds1 got to meet his sister only 1hour after she was born and lst time the 3 dc's got to meet ds2 when they came home from school. I don't plan to shift the kids out of the house if it is night they should sleep through and only if it morning will I get my parents to come and take them. On the whole other than it being the festive season I hope that it will cause minimum of disruption.

Oh no, sorry to hear everyone is in the wars!
Oeisha hope you are feeling back on track soon, how scary for you.
makescakes do you think it's just a bug that's going around? A lot of people I know have had gastric flu recently which passed after couple of days.

Are you all having the flu jab? got letter offering it the other day... Having mine next week. Last thing we need is to be down and out suffering from that, it's hard enough with morning sickness, PGP, hormones, and the REST!

Hope everyone is feeling MUCH better very soon. Chin up!

Poor cakes that sounds awful. I hope you recover quickly.

oiesha take it easy lovely-never had IBS but i have heard it can be debilitating-coping with that on top of the usual pregnancy aches and pains must be awful.

My sickness was a one off-thinking just a weird random bought of "morning" sickness. I'm off to work today for this group that was a disaster last week. I am more organised this week but theres a massive part of me that hopes that group doesn't run. I'm beignning to think i need the time more than the money at the moment. I dont know how many weeks they will give me to get it up to speed but i'm going to ring my manager in a minute to find out.

cakes how awful, hope it passes quickly. I've had a really upset stomach too, there must be something going round.

nanny I'm interested in the idea of a homebirth too; I'm not worried about hospitals or anything and would probably plan on a MW led birth otherwise, but I like my own space and really want a waterbirth, and having a pool in the house would certainly make a waterbirth more likely! I think I may plan on the MW centre this time around, though, and then maybe think about homebirth next time. My MW just said 'oh, you're doing NCT classes in November? They'll tell you all about birth options so let's talk about it after that'. I felt a bit like she was just rushing me along, but didn't argue.

As I said, I've been a bit ill lately but my bump is suddenly starting to feel huge - I think because I've had a really busy weekend and have been on my feet the whole time. I'm having a bits of discomfort and what I think is ligament pain too. I'm kind of worrying a bit about whether I should go get checked out - pamplemousse has been a bit quiet over the last few days, but definitely still moving and kicking at random intervals. Because I have an anterior placenta it's quite possible that the baby has just moved into a different position and I can't feel as much, so I really don't want to start fretting every time the pattern changes, but likewise I don't want to miss something because I'm being stubborn and foolishly assuming all will be ok. What to do? I guess I should take my own advice and go get checked out, but I don't know... hypothetically speaking, would I contact my MW, or just go to A&E, or ask for a GP appt?

[frets]

ghost if you want to be checked out call your mw and tell them your worried. gp wont be able to do anything really other than say see your mw and a&e will be able to do a doppler but staff may not be trained properly and them not being able to find anything is more of an unnecessary worry than its worth.
your mw will be really lovley, try and reassure you on the phone then probably invite you to her next clinic to get checked out, or if shes concerned send you to the maternity unit where they will check you out right away. hth

Yeah, my friend's little boy had atummy bug so I think I must have caught that. Still having hotrod pains on my stomach today, don't know if worth worrying about our not... Like you, ghost, stomach has started being much more intrusive this last week. Guess it's just the time for it.

God I hate being home alone when i'm ill. At least the clingy cat is doing his job.

Horrid pains. I miss my laptop.

cakes Get well soon. Being it's not fun being ill a the best of time, but with a LO in there it's even more concerning.

I think I'd have been more worried had I not been 100% convinced it was an IBS attack, I've had 3 like this now. Abi was also going mental in there...bashing about most of the day. Only calming finally when I got home. She had a relatively quiet day yesterday, but seems to be back to normal today.

miamama re: flu jab. Just made an appointment for 3rd oct for mine. Hopefulyl a nurse will call me back about what the vaccine they offer is.

Righty, both my boys are up, so I'm off to strip the bed (how nice of me to wait til my furbabies were awake!)

Oh what a horrible weekend for most of you! Hope you all start to feel better soon and have a better week. Ghost In my experience baby gets quiter when im busy. But if your concerned, and you sound concerned, then call Triage. If anything just for peace of mind. Hugs to all under the weather.

This belt that the physio gave me is really taking some getting used to. Not actually sure if it is helping PGP or not. Physio said to wear it when im on my feet for any length of time and to wear the tubagrip the rest of the time. Going shopping in Glasgow this afternoon so will see how im feeling after that. Although if yesterdays stroll round Ikea is anything to go by im not going to be worth a button afterwards.

Dp has just realised how little time we have until baby comes (26wks yday) and has started 'planning' to do stuff round the flat. I say planning cos he likes to think everything is his idea even though Iv had everything planned for months.

Flu Jag - I had mine in April, was the end of the winter batch. Havent had a cold as such at all but have had that feeling of having a cold. In a lot of ways thats worse. Was told to call back at the end of this month to check if the new batch had changed much as I may not need to get the new one.

Keep brushing against the work top and getting my tops dirty with out noticing due to bump, then wondering why I have to change my top again, will have to start wearing a pinnie if this keeps on going. Hope those stomach pains stop. I find lying down really uncomfortable now and turning over it feels like I have an immovable object attached. I know I am moaning but can't complain when those who are having twins must be worse.

hi ladies, thanks so much for your advice and support. It means a lot to be able to check my neuroses with people in a similar situation. I'm getting a bit teary thinking about it.

I am probably worrying more than the situation warrants, if you see what I mean. After your posts I set myself a deadline of midday, and if I didn't feel any strong movement by then I was going to call the MW. shonno I think you're absolutely right - probably I've just been too busy to register the movements.

Anyway, now that I'm sitting still at work things seem more normal - I've had at least a dozen definite baby-movements in the last 15 mins so I feel a lot happier and more reassured now. The bump still feels a bit odd, but I think it might be gastric pain rather than anything else, which would make sense with the upset stomach. Really wish I had a doppler right now! Of course, the MW has always struggled to find a hb right away (she can only ever pick anything up by sticking the sensor right into my belly button!) so I'd probably start worrying about that, too. Plus, I read some scaremongering articles about people using the doppler incorrectly and picking up the placenta noises instead of hb noises and getting false reassurance. So if nothing else I'd be doubting that too!

so I've basically resigned myself to 16 more weeks of crazy!