The infamous Wagoners are welcoming new bumps, new babies, planning a wedding and, as ever, there's always shopping!!!

[SESthebrave]

This way Wagoners :)

Evening all!

Hi Diege, I didn't have SPD either but I've read my fair share and echo what the girls have said - you need to keep your legs together girl!! There are lots of tips like when you get out of the car, make like you're a princess (which you are, natch and hold your knees together and ankles together and turn in your seat before standing, rather than stepping out sideways.

There's so more info about it here www.babycentre.co.uk/pregnancy/antenatalhealth/physicalhealth/pelvicpain/ and www.babyworld.co.uk/information/pregnancy/pregnancyproblems/pregprobs_pelvicjointpain.asp

I think the second link is slightly easier / better / more helpful reading.

I've read about pushing supermarket trolleys (and therefore I guess, heavily laden pushchairs, if relevant) making it worse. I suffer from a bad back and before switching to home deliveries, when I got to the checkout I'd always ask for someone to push my trolley to my car for me to save my back. Going round the supermarket was OK because it was flat, but the slightest slope puts pressure on your lower back to keep the trolley going in the right direction - and at £33 per ostepath session to fix me, I decided to swallow my pride! They've always been happy to help.

Tink - missed your post about DD1, it must be a relief to have a diagnosis so you can put a plan in place now. DS has just finished a course of Rhythmic Movement Therapy, which can be used to treat Dyspraxia. A lot of his 'traits' were similar to those on the dyspraxic scale, but it just didn't quite sit right. When I reviewed this site www.rhythmicmovement.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=11&Itemid=18 and the symptoms that could result from a specific reflex not being integrated properly, it all just fell into place.

He's now toilet trained (finally) and his tantrums have stopped. He's more co-ordinated (he used to trip over his own feet when walking) and he's more articulate. His stamina is improving (although still can't walk very far he is much better than he was), he can cope with change (i used to have to phone nursery to let them know when I was a few minutes away so they could start to prepare him). He was physically aggressive towards his carers and all this has now stopped. He ticked most of the items on the Fear Paralysis Reflex list, and all these, without exception have now resolved.

Kay and GingerbreadGiraffe (GYo?) - it seems really strange to hear you talking about ttc again. Wish it was an option on my horizon - I shall have to experience all the highs and lows via you guys :-)

I just want to say to everyone that I'm really sorry, I feel like a real traitor to the wagon when I leant so hard on you all after my MC. I hope you don't mind me being back, and I hope you don't mind my (self-absorbed) mega rambles.

SPD Link one - www.babycentre.co.uk/pregnancy/antenatalhealth/physicalhealth/pelvicpain/

SPD Link two - www.babyworld.co.uk/information/pregnancy/pregnancyproblems/pregprobs_pelvicjointpain.asp

Rhythmic Movement Site - www.rhythmicmovement.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=11&Itemid=18

Hello!!! Great to have a bit more chat on here again - and that definitely includes you LaTour :)

Giraffe - sorry AF reared her ugly head but you sound very positive for this month. Hope you're enjoying a nice relaxing holiday - maybe that will help with ttc this month?!

Diege - sorry for the SPD. I've not sufferred but I remember others on here having it and it sounds awful. Not easy to rest when you've got other DC so I hope it doesn't progress too much.

LaTour - sounds like your DS1 has come on really well. Sounds like you've really helped everyone work together to resolve things for him.

Kay - is your DP home now? 10 days till ovulation means some serious GOFing pretty soon :)

tink - glad you've had a confirmed diagnosis so that you can ensure DD1 is supported in the best way.

Bumps - hope things are ok with you?

Rugby - hope you and DP have got used to the idea of DC2 being on their way now and all is going well.

Gruff - hope things have settled down with DS2 and you're getting a bit more sleep.

All ok here - just the usual worries of early pregnancy! Was on a training course all day yesterday and kept trying to subtly prod my boobs to see if they were still sore. They weren't which was a bit worrying but another BFP this morning and sore boobs again today so hoping all still ok.

Thank you so much everyone for the support, sympathy and links! I feel better after resting tonight, and hope to use a few of the tips from LATOUR's links to help manage it. ON that note LATOUR you are a fully paid up wagon member and don't you forget it
SES, I'm sure all will be well - my boobs were exactly the same, in fact one day not sore at all, and took about 2 days before some soreness returned. I remember being quite worried at the time, but then read somewhere that it's totally normal as hormonal levels fluctuate in the early days. And stop doing tests missus!!! You know madness lies that way...
Sorry to hear about af GING - it all sounded so hopeful, but you sound in good spirtis and also have KAYZ as a cycle buddy
Off to bed with a cushion ready to put between legs. You're right, def helps not to open them too wide! As is I needed any more reasons to deter dh's advances
Night all!

LaTour, it's lovely having you back!! I was away for quite a while too and it's like I never went AWOL at all.

Diege, I don't know if it's on the links but always try to get out of bed lying on your side and keeping your legs together and sort of letting them swing down of the bed while you push yourself up. I still get out of bed like that now.

hi chatty ladies

have been busy this morning!!

tesco, next to pick up rest of bits and dropped a betteware order round

ses - it is hard at the early stages

ginger and kay good luck

latour u cant get rid of the wagon and us that easily

diege keep those legs shut girl

Morning . Thanks KAYZ, useful tip! Was pretty bad in the night, esp turning over but feels much better since getting up. Can still 'feel' it, and lots of clciking going on when I walk/get up, but so much less painful than yesterday. Hopefully managing posture etc will prevent it getting any worse - the big push up and down the hill with loaded buggy this afternoon will be a test anyway!
Hi TINKS - sounds a busy and productive day

I need a kick up the bum to remember to take my pregnacare. I haven't taken them in ages.

which boots for dd1 who is 6 :-

www.next.co.uk/x48714s4#117485x48

www.next.co.uk/g474478s7#417272g47

www.next.co.uk/g474478s8#446473g47

www.next.co.uk/g473478s1#723784g47

she has wellies for rain

The top ones are my favourite Tink. I love them!!

Is anyone else obsessing about the satellite this evening, or just me? Should add, I am still at work, but having 5 mins alleviation from the boredom of the spreadsheets I'm working on by glancing at MN... am fascinated by the Satellite thread...!! Will actually read all your posts later, but for now, must return to work
Still shall have a when I get home (as opposed to a [whine] on here]....

hi cheers kay they r gorgeous but pricey

same here star i get paranoid hv seen that thread 2

I am obsessed with the satellite too. I am not worried about it really but I would love to see some of it as it burns in the atmosphere.

i would luv it if some bits landed nearby

Tink, it'd be pretty cool to find some bits

...stuck in your head
Hope everyone's ok. Day of rain here and just counting down the hrs till bedtime if I'm honest... Pelvis very sore last night - have to get out of bed and in again if I want to turn over, and pillow between legs is giving me cramp in my calves
Looking forward to x-factor bootcamp though

hi diege

soory for bad pelvis

boot camp great

which boots diege

Diege, I am dreading spd. I had it with DS2. Walking up the stairs and rolling over in bed were the worst things for me.

It looks like I might ovulate next Sunday and it's DPs birthday on the Saturday so his birthday present can be lots of GOF

kay

We had the night from hell here last night. First the dog wouldn't go to sleep. He was barking like a loon and DP ended up taking him out again at 11.

Then DS2 kept waking up because he has a cold so we couldn't get any sleep. Then at 3am when DS2 finally went to sleep DS1 woke up I am exhausted

oh no kay

Hmm KAYZ that does sound grim Hoping you can get an early one tonight to make up for it.
TINKS, on the boot front I like the Kickers' red pair best (they do come up big size wise though).
Have just booked dd3's birthday party (make your own pizza at pizza hut) for the 15th , a whole 3 weeks befor eher birthday . I just have a feeling this baby is going to come at least 3 weeks early, and don't want to have to cancel/not be there if I go into labour at the time of the actual birthday. Plus we have dd2's birthday 2 weeks after due date so enough to have to plan! We'll of course have the actual birthday on the right day (7/11) but I'm taking no chances. All these valentine conceptions eh

I am fully expecting another bad night. I think I might keep DS2 off playschool tomorrow if he's still bad

hi kay good luck tonite hope it goes better bless him

hi diege - very organized party at pizza hut sounds yummy

i went for the grey snow boots and the ecru cat ones she tried them all on and they were the best
she luvs cats so really wanted them and i luv the snow boots very practical
so have both

put out betteware books this morning then chillaxed dh worked

Hello!

Kay - I really hope you get a better night tonight! Sounds like your ovulation is very well timed this month :)

Diege - love your party planning! Sounds like the best idea though. Have you just got one more week of work left now? Hope the SPD doesn't get any worse.

Tink - I really liked the ecru cat ones too and thought she could always wear them as snuggly slippers during the winter.

Star - still at work at 7pm on a Friday? Not on! Not for much longer though :)

Hello LaTour, Giraffe, Gruff and anyone else around :)

All ok here. Have v v sore boobs when I take my bra off and a week on Tues is my scan so I'll have a better idea of what's going on then.