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BESH BAYBEES

dontrythisathome, girl born March 25.
Cheggers, twinz girlz, born April.
FannyPriceless, boy, born June 8.
CurlyCasper, girl, born June 24.
CUNextTuesday, boy, born June 29.
AlpinePony, boy, born 1 July.
Carrots, boy, born July.
IggyPiggy, girl, born July.
Cosmosis, boy, born Sept 5.
Backinthebox, boy, born Sept 7.
Skatergrrrl, girl, born Sept 10.
VAG, boy, born Oct 2.
Silversky, boy, born Nov 1.
SomethingSuitablyWitty, girl born Nov 2.
okiecokie, girl, born Nov 12.
Honeymoo, boy, born Nov 11.
ReginaMonologue, boy, born Nov 13.
Maswera, boy, born Dec 24.
PollyPoo, girl, born Jan 5.
MrsFC, boy, born Jan 7.
ChoChoSan, girl, born 6 Feb.
Ginhag, boy born 11 Feb.
Muser, girl, born 15 Feb.
CluckyKate, boy, born 18 Feb.
Perfect Dromedary, boy, born 23rd February.
Casserole, girl born 19th March
Medee, girl, born 26th March.
StiffyByng, girl, born 17th May
Scorpette, boy, born 21st May.
Rocketleaf, girl, born 23rd May.
TwinkleToes, girl, born 7th June.
Laurielou, boy, born 9th June.
Orchid, girl, born 24th June.

UPDIFFED

Ginfox, loving the new mega-boobs, due 12th July.
LadyGoneGaga, No, it's not fucking twins, due 24 July.
Mrbitey, so hot right now, due 27th July.
Macaroonmum, thinking of calling baybee Vanilla Ice, due Aug 6th.
Owlbooty, sticking to a schedule, due 7th August.
Ocarina, there's a what in there?! due late August.
Mountie, too shy to shine, due Autumn.
Truffkin, growing a padawan, due 18th November
BarbiesBeaver, can't quite believe it, due Christmas Day
BrownB, INSERT WITTY COMMENT, due 25th January 2012
AlpinePony, INSERT AMUSING COMMENT, due 19th Feb 2012

Congrates on the pink flavour brownlet Bgirl Lovely news. Sorry the witch is still making your lives hard, try not to let it tarnish the lovely stuff you have going on too much

Alps - having a girl means that I don't have to buy ANYTHING. My child will be mostly wearing hand-me-downs... Don't think she'll mind in the first instance! I was prodding my belly with a torch yesterday and I definitely felt a prod from the inside. First time I've felt that, so yes... it's all being put into a different perspective as it goes... sigh.

Excellent news BrownB amidst all the other shite going on at the moment.

Anyone up for a stealth raid on the BESH? We can bomb them with delicious booze, fish related lesbo violence and inappropriate pictures.

Congrats Brownie, girls are ace.

And brilliant news occers, your wee girl is a beauty. I hope you are all settling in at home ok. I am vey jelus that Curly got a cuddle.

Also congrats to Kat on the scan. Tis a relief, non?

Quick thought before I forget - I currently have the ESH hippobirthing book and am happy to pass it on to any interested PESH. Yell if you'd like it.

Yes please Orcs! I was quizzed by my friend (who is a nurse) last night about my preferences for birth and I came over all flustered. So would do me good I reckon to start thinking about it all...

You gave birth to a hippo as well as a little girl?! Much respect!
Is there anything in this hippobirthing stuff then?

kat fwiw i think the hippobirthing training helped us not freak out about not getting the homebirth, create a calm environment despite being in the delivery suite and deal with the pain of a posterior birth with only G&A*. Plus I used the breathing down techniques to get Sprout out much quicker than they thought I'd be able to given her position. But we did one to one training not just the book and cd so I don't know if that made a difference. To my mind, it can't hurt and the more techniques you have at your disposal the better.

*that said, all these could be attributed to sheer bloodymindedDHBness.

Well anything that makes it easier is good. I have nooooo chance of being able to have a homebirth given all the medical ishoos. Should I make it past the magic 12 weeks this time I may look into it. Normally I am quite cynical about things like that but it seems to be mentioned quite a lot so must have something going for it.

I only did the book/cd, and it certainly helped in earlier part of labour. I think if I had done a course it would have been better to see me through all of labour.

I on the other hand felt comfortable with my home birth and stopped working at 36 weeks with the intention of doing my hippo and relaxing. Best laid plans of men & mice et al.

I'm getting on fine with it so far alps a few bruises on the belly but nothing major. Ten weeks today!!! A quarter of the weeks done! I wish I could have another scan as the one I had a week ago has stopped working for me as far as reassurance is concerned.
I agree with what you say about baby clothes. What is she going to do? Rip it off and complain that it isn't pink? I don't think they have learnt about gender and colours yet. Admittedly dressing a boy up in a pink frilly dress might be taking it a step too far...

As for your final suggestion, we could be like those awful people off Embarrassing Bodies. We could inspect all the ESHmen and give them instructions on performing their duties.

Bagsie I do cock inspection.

Just to echo what alps said, if you want to do the hippo stuff, start early. Because I, too, planned to do it in those last few weeks, but Squeaks decided to show up at 36+1. She and Bear were very much in sync when it came to screwing with the best laid plans! Apols to anyone who gets the hippo book with crinkled stuck-together pages: I dropped it in the bath.

Just popping in to agree with CurlyWurly on the hippo thing.....I started at 18 weeks with no.2 and it worked a treat. MrCluck was throroughly fed up with the CD which wafted me to sleep every night but, hell, it gave me a pain-free labour so ver glad I did it, along with the classes.

Spotted this Alps and thought it might amuse...

Oh lordy kate - what are they like? I'm still reeling from this www.mumsnet.com/Talk/pregnancy/1299773-Quick-question-on-accidentally-inhaling-gas-from-the-cooker and the "my daughter works in a butchers but she's pregnant, will meat kill my PFBGC?

What is the name of this hippo book so I can look it up on amazon once I get past my dating scan on the 3rd October?

Theres one thread today that goes "I ate a chicken mayo sandwich have I killed my baybeeeee?!"

I had the Marie Mongan book and CD Kat. Mind you, if I could a) find and b) afford a course, I would go down that route next time.

The one I've got which will soon (ish) be on its way to Brownie is this one

I found it interesting to read, bits of it were way too woo for my tastes and I wasn't disciplined enough to practise any of it. But there was good stuff about breathing which tied in with things I did in yoga and I certainly used. I think I'm probably with Rocket on using sheer bloody mindedness as a technique for dealing with labour. I definitely agree that the more options you have that may be useful when it comes to it the better - as long as you don't have a set idea in your head that you're not happy to even think about budging from (because as Alps says, sometimes these things are out of your hands). I was glad I'd thought about what I wanted and that the midwives knew that, even though in the end it didn't work out as planned - even in the middle of a load of interventions I never would have wanted, they knew where I was coming from and were supportive.

that's the one occie, might even be my copy you have. Not that it's mine any more!

kitty I have that book and cd which you are welcome to borrow once i locate it. I went for one on two classes too- which, if nothing else were fantastic for BBB as with the best will in the world he was never going to read the books and shiz, (he did start the DK one, but never got further than about p 34 if I recall, which was still on how to conceive ) and he got a personal tutorial on every aspect of labour. He was uber geektop of the class at our NHS crappy class I also didn't get the exact birth I had ordered planned, (home birth transferred after 18 hours, she popped out half an hour after we got there- may I recommend an ambulance drive to dislodge pesky last half cm of cervix) but the hypno def made the 18 hours a. go much quicker, b. be at times pleasurable and c. very very calm and relaxed.
I also think that in the last few weeks, where you're getting at once so excited and terrified, it really helped me to have something 'to do'- you feel so out of control about the whole situation; feeling you were doing something positive that could help, (and wasn't the heinous perineum massage) was a Good Thing. It also helped me sleep at the end too.
End of preachy hippo talk.

I know Alps there's just this absolute penis of a man who takes pleasure in being a pain in the arse and after a few clashes yesterday I was losing my rag! Am off until Monday now and even then am not in until lunchtime as I'm seeing the midwife. I'm also going to a breastfeeding workshop on Wednesday so have half a day off for that too. I felt a bit guilty at first but am over that now and see it as a way of recouping all of the unpaid overtime I've worked recently

All this hippo talk makes me feel very, very lazy. I feel really disconnected from the idea of labour and birth and am hoping that's just because I've still got 9 weeks until my due date. I'm hoping that when we do the antenatal class, that might start to focus the mind. I'm wondering if I should have my bag packed too but again, it feels like I won't need it for aaaages!

So I'm off to Chester tomorrow for a hen weekend. I'm not sure how I managed to be pregnant during 'the year of wedding shiz' but am glad that this is the last one now. Have one more wedding next month and then the wedding linked to this hen weekend is exactly 2 weeks after I'm due, so who knows if we'll make it? Thankfully the bride is chilled about us committing now so we can make the call when we know what's happening.

Re: BESH. I'm wondering as it's a rugby themed thread, should we get the alpha male Tindall on the case? His overload of testosterone will surely lead to many a diffment in le palais?

Truffs at 9 weeks to go I don't think I'd even thought about what was going in my bag let alone packed it (in the end TH nagged me into doing it which is saying something - he's usually the last minute disorganised one). We'd done that bit of antenatal classes by then I think so I had thought a bit about things like pain relief, but it was another good few weeks before I wrote a birth plan. And I think I stayed pretty disconnected from the idea until it happened - not quite denial, just not able to relate it to me. And it's going to happen anyway, so it's not like worrying about it will change anything (if you're the worrying type). I guess the hippobirthing stuff is good if you're the sort of person who likes to have things to do in order to prepare and has the motivation to do it (which is where I fell down).

Have fun with the hen weekend!

truffs I have never understood those deliberately vile in the workplace - what does it achieve? People tend to work "against" you and EVERYONE thinks you're a cock. :( I am pretty good though at leaving it behind when I swipe out - except of course the other week where I barely slept all night and kicked off in the morning.

Good idea about sending the alpha-males in to BESH.

I still haven't ordered those bloody jeans as am still in pre-maternity - I'll probably balloon overnight and have to go around nekkid.

This morning - without distractions - I finally tried on the IO stuff properly. The dress is gorgeous and obscenely "sexy" - I never thought I'd feel SEXY in maternity wear! I also figured out the wrap top which for some reason I'd mentally thought was going to be horribly complicated - but it really isn't - and again, it looks gorgeous and is flattering etc., etc. Will I be an IO convert post-partum I wonder?

I will do a small amount of hippo this time (at around 30 weeks) - I've done hippo stuff before for horses and also within the realms of psychotherapy so I was able to draw a little on it last time around - although I expect to have another sun roof put in.

OMG! I just realised that last night I had chocolate and haggis for dinner - have I killed my baybeeeeeee?

I agree with curly that if you can find the funds a course is well worth doing and start EARLY. We started at 33 weeks which is actually a little late from the POV of doing a course. The great thing about ours was that she did gloss over a lot of the more 'woo' stuff and tailored it to make it more UKcentric as the Monagon stuff is a little earnest in places. Also the way we did it was for TB to read the scripts to me at night, this way he got very familiar with it and it really involved him in the last few weeks of pregnancy and prepared him to be my 'advocate' during birth*. I used the cd a few times during the day towards the end when we were ramping it up but not that much. We discovered he has a really lovely soothing reading voice and I like to think Sprout could identify his voice with being very calm and relaxed after she was born. If you think your chap would be up for it then I could scan the scripts in and email them to you? I also have the book which I can pass on although I am not too sure where the cd is, I could probably burn it from the copy in itunes.

pone I am envious of your lovely IO stuff. I went on a disastrous shopping trip yesterday and now just feel like a hephalump. The only things that fit made me look like a tent and I have now gone up ANOTHER size in trousers (and any that fit my arse were huge on the waist) :( Who said BFing was supposed to help you lose weight. fecking liars.