Twin's Club 2! All Welcome! :)

[holidays2010]

Continued on from Here
Tried to update best I can with limited info and time, but here's the list on the new Twins Club thread, please update if I've missed anything!

Sassy34264 #2&3 EDD 12/09/10, Lancs, Jacob and Isobel born 13/8/10
strawberrylace #2&3 EDD 1/12/10, Suffolk, surprise Zoey and Lucas born 23/10/10 by c section
jjkm #1&2 ADD 29/1/11, outside the UK, Girls born 25/10/10
Lavitabellissima #1&2 EDD 13/12/10, SW London, Identical girls Born 04/11/10 c section (early 34&3)
smokeybacon #3&4 EDD 25th Nov, Nottingham, Freddie and Tobias born 06/11/10, natural birth after induction.
Jenzopos #1&2 EDD 23/11/10, Charlotte & Anna, Manchester 15/11/10 6lb 7oz and 7lb 5oz
Swazzee #1&2 EDD 02/12/10, South London, Adem 6lb 3oz and Rafi 5lb 13oz 21/11/10
Amberc #2&3, Madeleine (6.3lb) & Isabella (6.11lb) , delivered by C Section on 07/1/11 at 37 weeks, Kent
Thingamajig #2&3 EDD 20/3/11, Cornwall, identical girls Hannah (5lb4oz) and Louise (4lb4oz) born 13/2/11
Magic8ballhastheanswers #3&4 EDD 22/3/11 South London, ID girls born 27/2/11
Cerubina #1&2, SW London, Sebastian (3lb 4oz) and Rosamund (3lb 9oz) born 8 weeks early on 26/2/11 by emergency c-section
Holidays2010, 2 Baby Boys born 06/03/2011
CantDrinkAnyMoreMilk, Scotland, Baby Girl and Baby Boy born 01/03/2011
crazydayz, Thomas and Isobel, born on 28/4/2011 by C-section at 7lb 3 and 6lb 14

Tabbycat76 #1+2 Edd 21/02/11, Suffolk, surprise
VictoriaSecrets #1&2, EDD 17/05/11, Basingstoke, Prob Non-ID twin girls!

Snowfalls108 #2&3 EDD 29/05/2011, SW London, ID surprise
MissyMolly #1&2, EDD 29/05/2011, Midlands, non ID boy and girl
RestingKitty #1&2 EDD 15/06/2011, South London, boy & girl
Propercrimbo #2&3 EDD 16/07/11, North Lancs, not finding out
Brassicababe #1&2, 22/07/2011, Lincs, non-id, surprise
MorningsMadness #2&3 EDD 14/08/2011, Surrey, Non-ID twin girls
MrsStevo, #1 & 2, EDD 23/08/2011, Lincs, MCDA ID
Redshaw, EDD Sept 2011, MCDA ID
Tiggersreturn #2+3 EDD 26/09/11 NW London DCDA - not finding out
DoubleDiffedDachs, #1&2 EDD 5/10/11, Twyford (Berks), DCDA, too early to tell!
Fluter, EDD October 2011, Non-ID
PeelingmyselfofftheCeiling #1+2 EDD ... , DCDA
mybootsaremuddy 6+7 EDD 7/7/2011, surprise
silverangel #1+2 EDD ..., ID

Oooh, could this be the start of things?? Let us know how you get on.

Spent a few hours this weekend prepping the nuresery for painting. I am getting so tired though - couple of hours or effort, then need to lie down for an hour!

Hiya going to talk to the midwife tomorrow it seems to settle down when im lying down but i will call the midwife to get checked tomorrow,
I know what you mean about being tired i have been waiting for the nesting instinct to kick in but even if does now im huge and have thatpelvic pain so find it difficult to get up, i will of course keep you posted as i hope you all will too xx

Keeping an eye out for your news twinnerves! Wondering if it's the start of things.... How exciting. When my waters went it was trickles and small gushes, no great anything. Amniotic fluid tends to be slightly pinkish though- I had many pads checked by mw's before I was induced after they went, that was what they all said! Not that that means yours isn't. I never noticed anything particularly pinkish, despite them saying it!!!! Nodded and agreed of course (they also dipped it and tested it and scanned me twice before it was confirmed)

No wonder raven, I'm amazed you're doing so much with your uterus up to your ribs already... I remember the breathlessness at the end with one- prob from 30 weeks ish on which is at least where you are bump wise if not more! Do you have rib pain too?

Hiya, well how silly do i feel, went to the hospital drove myself the ex didnt even offer-hasnt even rung to see if all ok the a hole , heartbeats were monitored and i wasnt allowed to move for an hour and guess what they were absolutley fine humph! however the internal examination didnt help the pelvic pain and ivebeen in agony even had a cry and succumbed to taking a paracetemol which is working thank goodness.

as for counting kicks i always think twin 2 is moving more but when i was moniored today they were so muddled up togther you culdnt tell who was who but they do say one moves more and i always feel at ease when i listen to there heartbeats, but get checked if your not sure you may end up feeling silly(like me today) but its nice to get checked. My movements only became really strong in the last few weeks and they take my breathaway sometimes.
hope all of you are doing well got to go or i`ll miss chuggington apparently!

Hey quempin I'll check out TAMBA. I have found it hard to tell the movements apart. At my growth scan today I found out that all 4 feet are in the same place so will never be able to tell the kicks apart as long as they stay there. Can feel some other shiftings which I think are arms and headbuts. Haven't felt that many movements- - I think they are on the lazy side. I measure at 8:30 am each sat and it takes about 3-S mins to feel 10 movements.

Glad you are ok twin!

raven probably a stupid question, but are they so squashed in there there's no room to move or could they still shift a fair bit at 28 weeks? I'm already wondering how its possible to tell them apart with any degree of certainty. At 16+4 I'm feeling some movements, and because they're obviously still so little I think I've felt both, just because simultaneous movements seem too far apart in my tummy to be the same baby... However, I think it'll only get harder.

twin my waters went like that though, trickled, and not much, and fluid levels right at the bottom of normal but stayed there when measured on scan for 24 hours before dropping significantly. I was told it was discharge at first, and it took collection of the fluid and testing it (positive for amniotic fluid, as I knew!) and 3 scans to confirm before they accepted they'd broken and induced me! I was 40+2 though. And I did think I was going mad, or becoming very incontinent for a bit!!!

I'm still getting very strong braxton hicks. Couldn't get hold of mw today. I want their advice though, as because its so early for them really I want to know whether to really try and avoid provoking them, or ignore them and get on with it...

And you and your family are still in my thoughts too ipswitch xx

Hi dream, they looked quite squashed to me but the doctor said as they are only 28 wks they still have loads of room and can still do acrobatics until about 36 (I tell you - don't feel ONLY anytging right now!).

twin meant to say, don't dare feel silly. I get told all the time by all the pros that they would much rather they were able to reassure you and everything was fine than you worried at home. Your ex does sound like a piece of work. Will you be doing labour with a different birth partner? Sounds like he could stress you out big time.

Hi Raven, half of me just wishes hed say hes not going to be there, but things are really strange as dont want to do it without him as hes the only one whos been with me through everything(15 years since i was 15- which makes it hard)even though he makes me completley mad i wouldnt stop him being there for the birth of his children, its a completley messed up situation but it will soon be over this time in two weeks my little girls will be here and ill be chilling in hospital.
Your uterus could be quite stretched and be numbing the sensation of them moving, sometimes when i see the movement i dont feel it even the big kicks and turns so that could be another reason and unless the movements arefar apart i have no idea who it is x

Just popping in quickly re movements - at beginning I could differentiate movements really well and had very definite styles! From about 24 weeks I'll be damned if I could tell them apart they shifted around so much movements felt weaker and I just wouldn't be able to tell you which was which - a fair few times I went to dau to check on twin 1 not moving enough only to find both twins had changed position and the salsa dancing of twin 2 was actually a combination of them both.

twin please tell me to butt out if I'm being intrusive but dh left because you were pg with the twins so why does he want to be involved? Im confused (as I'm sure you are!) - if he wants to be involved now then why not try and make the marriage work after so many years? As I said do feel free to ignore me!

I'm struggling today - dh has been working 15 hour days (he runs his own business and has a big project with deadline looming) so crawls into bed at midnight and out at 6. The girls are feeding constantly, I'm trying to express enough to give them a bottle a day but they are literally draining me of everything. Ds is being left out and very, very clingy and I am desperate for some proper sleep. My family are a godsend for support but somehow seem to have an opinion on everything I do and I feel suffocated by it all!

Sorry for me rant x hope everyone is ok. dream all quiet on the bleeding / bh front I hope? How is dd?

Oh, BB3, I'm really pleased you've said that. I was worrying about telling tham apart, and it really does seem like it's not possible once they're bigger. I guess even if you think you can, there's no guarantee you're right unless you weren't looking and were being scanned and said 'twin 1' 'twin 2' etc and they could tell you if you were right! You sound like Supermum to me. A supportive family are one thing, but they're not there at night, and sadly when you're bf and have a toddler who wants mummy it's hard and it's YOU they all want! I find it hard on the 2 days when DH gets home after DD has gone to bed so I don't get a break all day, and that's with one!!!! And I'm not attempting DIY. In fact, it's about all I can manage to keep the house vaguely clean and standards have slipped already . I'm amazed you have the energy to lay carpet/gloss/paint etc while looking after 2 babies and a toddler single-handed most days. I hope you do manage to get help from your family and get a few precious minutes to yourself at least.

I must be very stupid misunderstanding raven, because I thought a singleton could wriggle, and turn fully about etc up to 36 weeks, but I'd assumed there can only be so much room for 2, even though you're bigger (physically the gap between ribs and pelvis is finite after all!) so once you hit 32 weeks and the growth rate slows for twins (from what I've read, it's same as a singleton for each baby up to that point?) so I would have assumed that from 32 weeks when growth slows literally because of lack of room that would be it, no more big movements, and full changes of position, and possibly the time when that happens would vary depending on each indivdual's build and frame etc. Oh well, back to the drawing board for me I guess!!

I have just won the go-to-sleep battle with DD after a mere 64 minutes tonight. She has moved on from her roseola infantum illness to a bad cough/cold seamlessly, so we're still having major sleep issues (I totally understand her wanting a cuddle when she's woken up with a bad coughing fit but when she's going to sleep it's all gone to pot, and she just can't/won't- it's not the coughing keeping her awake- was 2 hours getting her down last night...). Plus she's just discovered The Tantrum, to my horror... I'm so tired!! I still couldn't get hold of my mw on the phone today, so DD and I did a playgroup in the morning and drop-in mw session in the afternoon. The mw and student mw were lovely (so different to mine!!!) and said the BH are probably not that unusual, but I do need to remember twin pg is very different to singleton (but in a nice way, not how mine would have said it!), get a risk assessment at work asap, and because of the bleeding had a heartbeat scan at the hospital- a one minute job, but lovely to see 2 wriggling babies and 2 heartbeats.

I hope xkatyx is alright- she has a thread up titled 'worried worried worried' as she thinks her waters are leaking and isn't getting listened to, which happened with her last baby, who then arrived and was on NICU (thats very brief compared to her posts there, but the gist of it). So i'm thinking of her too and hoping she and the babies are ok.

twin, I just hope he decides, and you do too so you know what's happening at the birth- that's got to help you a bit. I know I also don't know the in's and out's, and I'm sure you don't give up on a marriage on a whim, but I can't help hoping he sees his twins and realises what an arse he's been and comes grovelling, if he bailed in a panic due to the twin pregnancy... I'd just love you to have an even happier ending (if, of course, that's what you'd want). Your girls will be a source of joy though regardless.

whoa, mammoth post, sorry guys!

plus, I just weaned DD- not bf for 3 days now as it got really painful... so really, my mn name is no longer applicable!!! til the next lot of boob-guzzlers arrive

hello all

have been meaning to catch up with you all but have been working pretty hard trying to get the house a bit more sorted (Raven - our twin's room is basically in the same place as yours is... and I also don't yet have running water in the kitchen)... Have been fairly chilled about it as was convinced that they were going to stay in for at least another 8 weeks (would take me to 36 weeks) but was scanned today and sonographer commented on how large both babies are (all good otherwise though) and asked if I had any inkling that they might want to put in an early appearance!!!! so slightly less chilled about the house now! [large within normal parameters, not worried about diabetes or anything ominous - just DH and I are tall and these little guys seem to have inherited that...]

both are head down and placentae are well out of the way so they better not turn again as at the moment I can't see any reason not to go for a natural delivery. Genuinely can't see how they would have room to turn either. am HUGE.

Thoughts with everyone that is having a tough time at the moment - there are several on here - especially Ipswich. Sorry not to comment on everyone individually but am being harassed to go to bed! Thinking of you all though.

xx

wow tabby, according to BB3's advice of do no DIY til they're 4 that could be tricky!!!! Great they're a good size, and I guess that's the thing with twins, you do never know when they'll show up... Is there any inkling?! What kind of inkling do they mean? I assume everyone has backache, ligament twinges, general aches and pains, and Braxton-Hicks etc etc, I wouldn't have an inkling what else to look out for...!

The mw today was telling me if I hadn't had a scan they might never know it was twins just from a mw examination, even with a doppler, as so early (I'm only 16+5), then I stood up and she said 'OH!!! I take it back, I'd know there was two in there!'. I'm going to be so huge- both consultant and now this midwife think I'm big already for where I am, even with twins!!

hiya, just wondering is i easy to tell them apart when they arrive what if i mix them up?

Twin it's difficult at first (I got it wrong when dr did their discharge checks ) but soon gets very easy as you get to know them xx

oh, that's good bb3, I guess that means at least they label which is which on their tags in hospital then! Hope you got a bit more sleep last night and feel a bit better today...

yes although the girls were quite skinny so tags kept falling off, luckily all their blood / health checks were the same so didn't matter that I got them mixed up. My two are getting more similar as they grow and I went out for dinner tonight with a friend which was lovely (to see her, talk to an adult about non baby things and eat three courses) strange (being away from all my children for the evening) and knackering (I'm normally in bed by 9 and i got in at 11.45) all at the same time and I came back to both asleep in their Moses baskets and had too look really closely to tell them apart

Great you had a girlie night out im sure its difficult to overcome the tiredness but you need to getoutto keep you sane really quite worried now about telling them apart but hopefully as one seems to be a little bigger thatwill help, or will just write there initial on there feet lol. 12 days to go now so todays agenda- eat a big bar of galaxy lay on the sofa a nd stay there, have a good day everyone xx

Just posting for some reassurance here...20 week scan is tomorrow, at 11am. So that's 11/11/11/11!!! So hoping that is a good omen but at the moment doesn't feel like it. Was caught up in a bank raid of all things last week, pretty scary, all OK but haven't felt ANY little flutters since then, very little abdo pain/sickness/tiredness which, whilst annoying, were all good signals before that the oven was still on.

Is it harder to feel movement with twins? Last midwife appt was on the 2nd and both heartbeats were fine then, but bank raid was two days later.

I know there is nothing I can do so should just relax till the morning, but it's hard.

hells1908, hi and blimey that must of been scary, at twenty weeks i didnt really feel anything its only in the last ten that they have become regular ( im 36 weeks ), it is very worrying especially when some thing like that has happen butdo try relax my movements become more noticeable the more relaxed i am i am sure your little ones will be fine so please dont keep worrying and it wont belong before you see them wriggling arund on that screen and you will wonder what you wereworrying about, i have my last scan tomorrow(i hope) it will be the eighth one ihave had and i m still nervous untill i see the hearts beating even though they are now wrestling each, have yourself a nice relaxing warm bath and early night and let us know how you get on xxxxxxxx

hells, don't worry, it varies so much. How early you feel them is also to do with where your placenta is, uterus position (last time I had an anterior placenta and posterior slanted uterus and felt barely a thing before my 20 week scan). This time I've felt flutters from 15 weeks and a few kicks Dh could feel last night at 17 weeks today. Placenta low posterior now though. It doesn't mean anything so early, though i feel them sometimes, and often when i get into bed, its still not a pattern as such. I don't think the fright will have done anything to the babies, who were just fine while you backpacked round S.America (that was you wasn't it?!) I just feel sorry for you, how dreadful!!! I think 11/11/11 at 11 is lucky!!!! A good omen. Let us know, and i hope you enjoy watching them wriggle.

twin, good day plan. Love the write on their feet idea! Any definites on who'll be at the birth yet? If not ex-Dh who is your other option, if there is one?

I'm thinking of Katy today who is 30 weeks, twin 1 waters broke, her temp was up with signs of infection and there was talk of delivering her if no improvement in 2 hours in her last post, so I'm hoping she's ok and her girls too. She may have her babies now! I really hope everything's alright.

Hope everyone else is ok
Xx

Good grief hells a bank raid - what the heck happened? How scary for you! Don't worry about lack of movements atall, movements are no earlier with twins and you will feel eight limbs soon enough. I know what it feels like to be at the stage where you think you should be feeling movements but can't - your recent midwife apt v reassuring. Let us know how you get on.

Oh no re Katy hope she is ok - where is she posting?

She's posting in pregnancy titled 'worried worried worried' and has had rubbish care, kept getting fobbed off and told her waters hadn't gone when she kept feeling trickling, then a scan showed that yesterday. So I can't stop thinking about her and hoping its all going ok...

oh, just seen more posts by katy in pregnancy 'quick help needed' and babies still in, she's being monitored.

twin, I have just eaten loads of chocolate, and must slow down or I'll be the size of a cruise ship, not just a whale by the time I deliver. Weighed myself though, and back to pre-pregnancy weight, so put on a few lbs and I'm delighted!!!