Mad March in the PESH deli; in like a lion, out like a lamb?

[Medee]

BESH BAYBEES

dontrythisathome, girl born March 25.
Cheggers, twinz girlz, born April.
FannyPriceless, boy, born June 8.
CurlyCasper, girl, born June 24.
CUNextTuesday, boy, born June 29.
AlpinePony, boy, born 1 July.
Carrots, boy, born July.
IggyPiggy, girl, born July.
Cosmosis, boy, born Sept 5.
Backinthebox, boy, born Sept 7.
Skatergrrrl, girl, born Sept 10.
VAG, boy, born Oct 2.
Silversky, boy, born Nov 1
SomethingSuitablyWitty, girl born Nov 2
okiecokie, girl, born Nov 12
Honeymoo, boy, born Nov 11
ReginaMonologue, boy, born Nov 13
Maswera, boy, born Dec 24
PollyPoo, girl, born Jan 5
MrsFC, boy, born Jan 7
ChoChoSan, girl, born 6 Feb
Ginhag, boy born 11 Feb
Muser, girl, born 15 Feb
CluckyKate, boy, born 18 Feb
Perfect Dromedary, boy, born 23rd February

UPDIFFED

Medee, Gah! Top of the list! Was due March 12
Casserole, cracking open the sunroof on March 31
Scorpette, thinking of displaying her enorma-bump at freak shows, due 18th May.
Laurielou, the unmarried hussy with the "surprise" diff, due 31 May (ish)
Rocketleaf, sprouting out all over the place, due 1st June.
TwinkleToes, supergluing her fanjo shut, due 20 June.
Orchid, hoping for a zen like child, due 1st July
Ginfox, loving the new mega-boobs, due 12th July.
LadyGoneGaga, Has lost her waist, due 24 July
Ivegotmrbitey, appears to have eaten posh spice, due 27th July.
Milanomum, eating for 7, due Aug 6th
Owlbooty, suddenly weeble-shaped, due 7th August
Ocarina, there's a what in there?! due late August
Mountie, too shy to shine, due Autumn
Truffkin, growing a padawan, due 17th November

Morning all.

Congratulations Kat, and hurrah for viability Gaga

Last night she managed some of her feed without the nipple shield so that was good. Her BS maintained through the night, actually higher 4 hours after my breastfeed than the 2am tube feed done by the nurses. Got a call to go feed her at 6am, and she did 3x 12 minute feeds. My only concern today was that my 3am express was pants, only 20ml, compared to the 50-60 I need and have been managing. Nurses told me not to worry as that was counter-productive! My CMW (who's been fab) is popping by to see me this afternoon, so shall speak to her then.

To compound our problems, I was just in the kitchen making my breakfast, when I spotted a fucking mouse! The perils of a kitchen made out of outbuildings I suppose, but WTF!

lou the NCT classes feature one session on C-Sections; it was really useful to understand the sheer number of people and amount of equipment that is involved, but I can understand your reluctance to plan too much around that possibility.

GG hoorah for the viability milestone! I am so looking forward to getting to that one, tis v. exciting. And unbelievable that they are not actually supposed to turn up for another 4 months or so.

Meds sounds like you and EA are doing sterling work there on the feeding, long may it continue :)

KittyKat Ignore them, you may not barf. I didn't. I did worry endlessly about not barfing though.

Lozza MrL sounds like a star - if I sent Mr Boots out to buy baybee things he'd probably come back with a tonka truck and half a tonne of meccano. I am trying to get his friends who are already dads to educate him in a non-scary way. So far no joy.

Having seen lots of teeny tiny babies over the last week, it really is amazing how quickly they are well - just being cared for as normal, but in an observed environment.

medee Thinking of you and little EA. You are doing amazingly well, and MrM sounds like a rock. Just dropping off this bag of extra ESH strength. Please feel free to dip into it any time needed.

scorpie I had two elective C sections due to SPD. It was defintiely the right decision for me. (I was in a wheelchair.) The only other option I would have considered was water birth but they wouldn't let me do that. Let me know if you want any more info about it all - I went through all the options and advice for SPD births.

Meds lovely to see you here. Seriously, I take my hat off to you - I know all this gushing is not the way of a troo ESH but you are one hell of a remarkable woman! I feel exhausted thinking about all that feeding, on top of that you are back & fore hospital (I know its not a huge journey, but.....) & you can't underestimate the exhaustion from worry. EA certainly sounds like she has more than a healthy dose of your determination. I do hope MrM is ready for the pair of you, you shall make a formidable team .

On top of all that, a fucking mouse! The damned cheek of it.

Booty I think Mr Loz was guided to Boots by a new dad, who TBH is a lovely guy but a bit of a fuss arse . He has been stressing himself at our laid back attitude of picking things up "soon". Sounds like he decided "soon" was yesterday.

A friend of ours popped to local video (yes, it was that long ago) shop not long after his daughter was born. He came back with a life size cardboard cut out of Darth Vadar. For his daughter

Oh lord. Yes, that is exactly the sort of thing I am expecting Loz .

Meds I used to do hearing tests for the little 'uns in SCBU - I always loved working down there because the nurses were, frankly, the most dedicated and caring I'd met anywhere and the babies were a right bunch of bad-asses (in the very best way) - it was always so lovely to see them getting better and increasingly feisty and shouty and hungry as they worked out where they were and what was going on around them. A shouty hungry baby is a baby that is making big steps in the right direction :)

Aw, I miss my old job. Especially the snuffling. I don't miss the clearing up of projectile vom quite as much; even the teeny tinies can barf an astoundingly long way when they want to.

Thanks, Fanny - I would really like some info if you wouldn't mind DMing me. Physio says it's 'only' moderate SPD, but the double-jointedness complicates things. Can't help worrying about birth messing me up for ages/ever. If I get past 37 wks then I can have a water birth but that's only if it's free and there's no complications with me and/or baby, so no guarantee.

Medee, did the mouse have clogs on? Seriously, talk about a bloody cherry on top! Sounds like EA is slowly but surely getting there. Stop worrying about not expressing enough; some is better than nothing. Is fab news that she managed without the shield, huzzah! Like Loz says, she definitely gets her strength and determination from her amazing mum who is humbling us all with her stoicism and level-headed devotion to her baby. I really mean that; you are awe-inspiring Lucky, Lucky little EA, with parents like you two.

Loz, I think your example proves why it's wimminz wot need to have Teh Baybees. SIGH. If it was up to TYF, our shopping for The Lad would consist of a few cute t-shirts with robots on and a full orchestra of kiddy instruments (that's a bit mean - he's very good - but has been v confuzzled by all my psycho-level shopping list precision).

Actually, I'd quite like a cut-out of Vader, but then again, I am a colossal lady-nerd

Hoorah and Huzzah for BabyGG and viability! Big, audible sigh of relief moment, eh?

Kat, I was one of those poor deluded fools women who spent the first few weeks after the BFP thinking 'oooh, I'm going to be one of those women who don't get many symptoms!'. Come 6 wks and I was starring in my very own remake of The Exorcist vomming scene Not saying this to scare you, just to prepare you

meds sounds like you had another good night, which is great news! Try not to worry to much about the expressing, I am sure it will all come right and sounds like she is getting the hang of feeding direct. Thanks so much for keeping us up to date.

yey!! for viability milestone lady I have to say it wrecked my head when that came round so early, babies born that early must be so wee!

Welcome to kat look back to a few Delis threads where my tag line was 'no longer jealous of MS" :D Oh hpw i wish I had kept schtum about ack of symptoms :D (hope they dont hit you like they hit me)

In fact I think i am back in the 1st tri again but with a bigger belly, feeling knackered and nauseous pretty much all the time, wtf? Hoping a heady combo of Spatone and Tums is going to combat that.

Weekend was so lovely although pretty lazy, I did do a 2.5 mile walk from Symonds Yat down the river, over the bridge and then back up. Not too bad going really considering. Even managed a bit more of a mooch round Ross on Wye later that day. Then on SUnday we went to the Bird of Prey Centre (nerd alert!) Not sure why really as neither of us are particularly keen bird watchers but we do love Birds of Prey and esp, Owls. They do pretty cool flying displays there which we caught 2 of and I have to say the little Burrowing Owl stole the show, it was so cute and sort of cat like in a way. Proper funny :o The place we stayed was really cool too (thanks to fishandlilacs), a bit shabby chic, haunted and 'eco house' and the guy that runs it is a consumate feeder so felt like i had to be rolled about most of the time. :o

sorry if i;ve missed loads of people out, still feeling a bit groggy for some reason. think a nap might be in order.

TB so far has been great at tracking down electronic baby bargains (monitor, steriliser) under strict direction as to which make/model. other than that he's come hope with a wooden giraffe money box and a sponge bob mesh toy bag :o If he could figure out a way to justify Sprout needing a ful size Storm Trooper outfit I am sure we would have one of those too. Actually I think I have been a bit too specific as he says he doesn't want to by anything with out checking with me (controlling moi?) So hopefully he'll loosen up when shes here.

Rocket welcome home Sounds like you had a lovely weekend.

Strange you should say you feel like you're back in the 1st tri but with bigger belly - I feel exactly the same! Yesterday I felt particularly bleurgh, with bad heartburn, feeling nauseous, tired & achy. Feel better today but not on my usual form. I put it down to the fact last week was very busy in work, but I knew that once it was over I was on the homeward bound for mat leave. Also psychologically looking at my calendar & seeing days rather than weeks left in work......... But maybe there is something about this stage of diffment.

(To be fair I fully acknowledge that I've never felt totally rubbish & have escaped very, very lightly)

yey for approaching ML lozzer you are on the home stretch! Whoot. Sorry to hear its not just me feeling rough though :( I am fully aware of how lucky I am not to have to drag myself into work at the mo. Hope this is just a bit of a blip for you and you are back on top form for the rest of the next few months.

Back from chiropractor. I do have SPD but looks like not too badly at the moment. Is aggravated by the fact I have flat feet and that I have a bit of asymmetry in my hips which she worked on today and should be able to improve things. So going to start wearing orthotics and have some special exercises to do. Going back next week.

Your weekend away sounds great, Sprocket. We stayed somewhere in the Forest of Dean a few years ago and did canoeing at Symond's Yat. And did a team building thing tehre too in my old job I thnk.

Third trimester starts to get tough at the end, Loz - lovely that mat leave is now in sight. Feels much less tough when you are at home doing what you like IMO. On the c-section thing I would just stay positive and not dwell on it particularly. The odds are against you needing one and it's not like you have to be an active participant - they will talk you through what to expect if you need one. IMO if you ned one at the end of a long tiring labour you will cease to care what the hell they are doing to you as long as it gets the baby out!

That is sound advice re c-section LadyG. Think I will worry about it if it has to happen. Meanwhile I have enough to worry about with a eh, "natural" birth

I'm only really just into the 3rd tri, so was hoping not to be at the moany stage just yet. That is another thing I have ear-marked to do during mat leave. That & eat custard slices

Sorry, meant to say Bah! to all this SPD. Sounds nasty.

Oooh, I had a custard slice on Saturday. Was well tasty. Proper wobbly custard. Mmmm.

loz I wouldn't worry about the c-section too much at all. Except to say, if your health deteriorates and you're diagnosed with pre-eclampsia, GD, severe SPD, breech or they want to induce you - be prepared for it all to end in a c-section.

Good point Alps. So far, so good with health. MW wasn't 100% sure of baby position last time, thinks head down. But still plenty of time to move around. If they're still uncertain at 36 weeks I'll have another scan. That could then possibly determine need for c-section. But I see no reason at the moment for that.

LadyG God, that wobbly custard slice sounds AMAZE. I now think I'll have to leave work early & happen to wander by a bakers........

Troo fax, one of my best mates owns a bakery - he is a Master Baker - but when we were all still in school I worked in the shop as my Sat job. The massive trays of custard slices were often left with thin bits around the edges that were too small to sell. So we chopped them up & munched on them throughout the day. Fresh & free! Was the best job in the world

I dreamt the other night that I had my baby (a girl), but that I'd gone to sleep pregnant & when I woke baby was born. Instead of being delighted at missing all the pain & gore I went into panic mode that something major had happened to me but I had no recollection of it. How odd!

But I want symptoms! A massive dose of morning sickness would be very reassuring. "The Fear" is consuming too much of my thoughts. I keep thinking symptoms = good sign. Obviously this theory has no basis in actual science and I am only 5+3 at the most. I will regret wanting more symptoms very soon I expect.

Oh and I have been very good today, I have not pissed on any sticks at all. I am weaning myself off the addiction, but it is like crack cocaine.

Sorry to barge in after posting so little and so long ago.

Medee, in a scary stalky way I came to see if you were OK as you'd been so absent elsewhere. I'm so sorry to see what's been going on and agree you're being amazingly strong through it all. I hope EA continues to shoot through the getting well stages, and I can't imagine how hard it must be for you all to go through. And if course will say nothing anywhere else. Much love to you and MrM right now and I really hope you don't mind me finding you on here.

Am 36 weeks today, started AL last week, and couldn't wait as I also have crappy, horrible SPD which has left me virtually housebound. My sympathies to everyone on here with it-it does seem to be a hotbed.

not at all Stiffy, very kind of you to think of us. Yes, we have pretty much taken a vow of silence on all other online places; this has been the only one. Glad to hear you have started your ML, hope you won't be kept waiting long.

Oh Kat, such famous last words!

Medee, I hope today has been a good day

Well, after today, I really think I'm going to have a serious chat about an elcs with my consultant on Monday, because I cannot see how I'm going to lay naturally with all the pain, stiffness, etc., I'm suffering with. I had to go to the MW this avo - even thought it's only 10 mins walk away, I had to ask my Mum for a lift (thank Gawd they live quite nearby), which she was happy to do (I let her come in with me and made the MW spend extra-long doing the heartbeat so Mum could melt) and then she dropped me off at Tesco, which is only 4 mins walk from my home, as I was determined to try to walk a small bit. Well, it took me aaages to get round a small supermarket for 5 things and the walk home took me 15 bloody minutes! I could barely make my legs move and was taking tiny, unsteady steps like an OAP and every movement was sheer agony, like someone was stabbing me in the pelvic bone and foof. By the time I got to the apartment block, I was sweating like a pig and nearly in tears with the pain. Then I had to go up the stairs - joy!

I can't see how I can have an active birth - I can barely walk, I have CFS anyway, and when we practised AB positions at NCT class, I was physically incapable of most of them and the only 2 I could manage (1 on birth ball, so not suitable for actual labour), I could only do them with TYF manhandling me like he was wrestling a greased pig and I was grunting and shrieking with pain (not at all humiliating in a large group) and when I got into the positions, they hurt so much I had to go sit down anyway. I dunno how much help the physio can be teaching me birth position tips when I can barely get in and out of chairs any more.

Sorry to whine; just so fucking pissed off and worried. I realise people have a lot worse to contend with.

scorps that sounds terrible. Sorry to hear you are in so much pain, I think your worries about a foof-lay are totally reasonable and perhaps having the elcs as an option would make sense. Especially with the CFS, that would make labour difficult even without the spd I would think!

Sunroof my dear scorcher, sunroof. It's hard after the sneeze cos of movement restrictions and only being allowed to carry baybee but if you have helpful peeps around you it will be easier. Obv getting said peeps to get you out the house is hugely important as cabin fever sent me stir crazy.

As you were.