feb 2011 - waving those pom poms

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just to start a new (and possibly last) ante natal thread - come on knitta

Heh heh...lovin your style ledkr...glad ur enjoying yourself!

i really need to start getting freya into some sort of routine as she just sleeps when she wants to and feeds when she wants it. She's not too bad at night but does seem to end up in our bed at half 5ish for cuddles till tom gets up at 8 then it's 4 in the bed while watchin cartoons and chatting until someone bladder bursts or we have to be somewhere. Go ledkr with your vodka in the changing bag
Jane how insensitive, some people just don't think. Zen hugs x

Sounds like your having a blast Ledkr!
Hubbard, Noah has kind of put himself into a sort of routine, although it can vary a little each day. Hasn't made a difference to his nights though. We've had a few nights of 11pm til 6am, but as you can see from the time of this post, he's woken at 3 for a feed tonight! I really thought it would just get better and better, not be so up and down with night feeds! Oh well, that's the name of the game I guess!

Funny little buggers, aren't they, babies.

S woke at 4.30 for the day today- I fed her then put her back in bed and she cried a bit then slept till 5.50 and cried again. Now feeding- and has dropped off to sleep, doesn't know if she's coming or going. Why couldn't she have dropped off quietly at the 4.30am feed???

Ah well, a few months and we won't even remember this.

hubbard S has a loose baby whisperer style routine- eat, awake for an hour or so, sleep. Bath at 7 with DD1 then feed and bed at 7.30. She normally goes till about 5.30 or 6. Your 4 in the bed sounds great, DH would never put up with that!!

Right, going to put peacefully sleeping baby in her cot. She's in the kitchen so she doesn't wake DD1!! Back in a mo....

I suppose I ought to go back to bed too but I know I won't sleep. Besides, I bet S will be up again soon little monster darling little angel.

And... she's awake again.

This too will pass...this too will pass...this too will pass....

me too debs,it would seem you dont get any grace even when on holiday,she had a late night cos she was partying so i guess i thought it would be ok,Woke at sodding 5.45 but despite sleeping all thru feed then refused to settle or even cuddle quietly on me,the walls are like paper and i dont want Ella awake early or she will be moody and spend a day of her holiday being told off. Me and dh have now had words and i said all the usual stuff about not enjoying this baby and feeling my life is now terrible etc.Feel a bit stupid now but it really does get to you doesnt it,i can categorically state that i hate the new born stage and cannot believe i have done it 5 times.So glad im not planning anymore I dont even mind her waking for a feed its the failure to settle i find soul destroying.

I am 100% with you ledkr, the feeding is fine, it's when they're awake for an hour afterwards...

We're going away on Thursday and will all stay in ONE hotel room until next Tuesday. (DH runs shows and we're going to this one, it's in the NW). Am quietly dreading trying to keep S quiet in the bathroom at 5.30am so DH and DD1 can stay asleep.

Yup, newborns suck don't they, sooner they get to about 1 the better

Morning ladies...yup,not liking the erratic sleeping patterns...N was up at 2,5 & then 6.30 ( think he heard dh get up for work)..N still awake now! need to put N in own room soon me thinks!

Just wanted to share a 'wonder product'! Friends got us a body shop baby body butter set. N has been really dry skin on forehead,side of face & a bit if cradle cap...was all red & sore on his face that I thought he was developing eczema. Used the buriti baby body butter from the set...& omg...what a turnaround! Cleared up within 2 days & his skin looks amazing! I was trying to only use natural 'products'..olive oil etc but to no avail...but this cream has worked wonders! Gonna stock up on some more me thinks!

Yep, not enjoying the baby stage! Noah took a measly 80ml at 3am, was then awake and squeaking for a bit, then woke again at 6. I brought him into bed with me and dh and he slept until 8, but wriggles so much that I don't think I got much sleep. Ben got up at 6.30 cos he needed a poo!
When will it all get better? The lack of sleep is like torture!

Grannyapple thanks for the tip - Anna has dry skin and the usual olive oil etc hasn't worked.

See I quite like the newborn stage, the lack of sleep doesn't bother me and I find babies really portable, just stick in pram, car and go out. Now the year old stage just when they are starting to walk I find really, really difficult. The constant following you everwhere etc, grr. I find that whingeyness much more difficult to deal with than crying babyness

Debka Sympathies re the hotel room, I know a few mums who have camped put in the bathroom for a few hours, bring some magazines . I'm lucky although dds are early risers when they sleep nothing could wake them, Mr Ws the same, must be having to change sleeping patterns etc for his shifts. When he sleeps not even a nuclear Anna could wake him, as has been proven by me uttering a few harsh words to shift him when its his turn for night feeds!!!

Jane, that was so insensitive of your friend, some people really dont think. Maybe she needs a wee whisper in her ear!? Awful about your friends little girl too, life is so cruel :(.

So sorry there have been tough nights all around. It will most certainly pass! I just hope sooner rather than later!

OH and I had a huge blow up last night over the MIL who still hasn't appoligised to me and is being mega witch. He thinks I need to forget it for Saturday and go for Easter meal and if I don't then I'm ruining it for everyone (read: his family) as Z will be staying home with me as he is bf. I wouldn't mind if it was only 1 thing or even the first time, but no, she is such a bully and I'm not having it. Even the thought of her taking Z from me the second we get there makes my skin crawl and so angry. He won't care when there arnt photos of his first Easter... Right?!

Oh a lighter note, my little physical genius rolled from tummy to back this morning! He did it yesterday but I was on the bed so of course it dips, but this morning he was on the floor! Only 10 weeks tomorrow!

Tarlia you really have my sympathies - having a huge issue at the minute with Mr W brother - didn't pick him to be A's godfather and he is seriously huffing -hasn't spoken to us in 4 weeks or so (he's 40 btw!!!) Making things quite awkward, we have never fallen out before and his children are the same age as dds so its quite sad. A's baptism is on 1 May and at the minute don't even know if they're coming - hasn't responded to invite I sent!!!

For what its worth I'm sticking to my guns - I sent an olive branch, he can decide what to do, am usually the peacemaker in all rows - my family bicker quite a lot but I'm really pissed off and hurt with him - he's being a dick and I have enough on my plate (really worried about Mr W and the safety of his job etc, especially with what happened to that poor boy a few weeks ago) to cajole him like a child!!! Rant over.

Well done Zachary - we put Anna on her side last night and she rolled over onto her tummy and has kept trying to do it!!

tarlia what a clever little man you have! Sorry to hear of your mil but i would be dooing the same as you and staying awaw, life is to short for you to "please" people. Look out for yourself and Z that is my new outlook on life. I have spent so many years trying to please people around me to keep them happy, not it's time to look out for number one!

What is it with the non sleeping babies at the moment, dd was awake and grunting from 4.30am - that is not like her, we've been pretty lucky with sleep recently Hope this isn't the start of something bad...

I'm enjoying the newborn stage when I have enough sleep!

tarlia sounds difficult with MIL, do you think she will apologise? Its so bloody hard when it comes between you and your oh, luckily mine is quite sympathetic, I'd hate it if he couldn't see how annoying she can be

jane how has work been today?

Ponyo today has been better thanks, well i only have been working for 2 hrs!

One of our friends had her baby this morning a girl. I am so happy for them but cant help feeling upset for what we have lost.
On a happier note the civil celebrant who is conducting our wedding ceremony came out for a chat today. So exciting, she is such a wonderful woman. (she also conducted Zoe's funeral service)

jane Glad you've had a better day and how lovely that you feel you have someone in your corner. Ps How are the plans coming along - any wedding dress hints yet

Well dd1 came home from school today with the most convoluted story of Easter I have ever heard!!! Apparently some boys and girls weren't very nice to Jesus and somehow this ended in him being tied on a cross Thought nothing could top the nativity story for trying not to laugh out loud but I deserve a medal for the face straightening that was going on in our car after school Talking of cars have you got yours yet Angels?

Hope the sun is shining on everyone today and Ledkr hope you have as much success with the vodka smuggling tonight

Hi all, I used to post on this thread but have namechanged (was geek giraffe). Thought I'd update and get back into the swing of things.
DD is 9 weeks, a big old bird (91st percentile), masses of hair and a big smile. Loving being a mum but wish she slept more at night, of course! She goes to bed at 730pm, feeds at 2ish and 4ish, then up and at em at 630. Think need to introduce dreamfeed but scared to wake her!!
Dh being good, ils no more annoying than usual (very!), and I've met some nice mummy friends. Today is a good day - I do have tearful 'what have I done?' moments too!
Off to catch up with the thread now.

wiggles that's so childish of him. Why on earth does he think it's his right to be Anna's godf? Well done Anna, if this strength continues who knows we might have tiny 5 month (or something) crawlers. Eekk. Naughty boys and girls indeed teehee. Schools make me giggle.

Life is too short, I agree. I hope she will as she is being totally weird, since we got on pre-baby, though she has always been tactless.

Glad you had a better day, Jane. Tell us, are you going for a big dress? Colour theme?

Welcome back wandering!

jane glad today has been better but lets be honest, it couldn't have been much worse than yesterday really . I think its nice you're having the same person for your wedding as Z's funeral, glad you've found someone lovely, you both deserve it :)

Hi puss, ooh yes give the dream feed a go! If it doesn't work at least you've tried it. And it can be very useful posting about annoying inlaws here as myself and other posters can verify

Sorry cross posted earlier, welcome back puss, she sounds lovely. Don't mean to rain on your parade, but we do a dream feed and he still wakes at those times :/. He does stay in bed till at least 8ish though as the 5amish one I usually bring him to my bed, snuggle and snooze while the eat all you like is open.

I also meant to say earlier, it's amazing that since parenthood struck arguments can be muted but just as forceful!

Bugger it! I also wanted to say, good luck with the dream fed tonight puss I have my fingers tightly crossed it works for you!

Arrrggg, need sleeeepp!!

Hi wiggles tarlia going for pink and silver for the colour scheme, i looking for a simpelish dress, im not girly at all so going to struggle with the whole "dress" thing! I dont what to do about a dress, when to order etc as i may be pg at the time no later than 12-16 wks though.

wiggles sorry to hear how crap your BIL is being, think he needs to grow up a bit!

HI puss congrats on on your DD, what did you call her? Good luck with the dream feeds!

jane he needs a bloody slap but as you said earlier time to put ourselves first Not going to let him annoy me.

Lovely colours for the wedding esp the pink ( I always think of pink as being Zoe's colour now), now she can share in Mummy and Daddys big day!

My sister got her wedding dress off the peg in Monsoon and it was gorgeous. They always reduce really well in sale time. She got hers from £240 to £70.

jane what a first day at work and your 'friends' behaviour. Wedding wise - could you have an empire line style dress (is that the phrase?) so should you be pg it would hide the tum/be altered if needed quite easily. I had an empire type dress for my wedding dress to disguise my fat tummy. I got mine from monsoon too and didn't need any altering . I paid full price for mine though . Love the pink theme (but then, I'm biased - our theme was pink too) and reminded me of zoe too.

Good to hear from wandering and geeky puss

wiggles at the non godfathers reaction - quite frankly he doesn't sound like great godfather material . Still no new car btw - am awaiting the log book of current car before I can part exchange it. Hopeful for this week end but who know

went to an afternoon course on baby first aid/cpr. was nice to see other mums and babies and I can proudly say that alice was the best behaved there - she slept the whole time. All the other mums were and . I was but they didn't see the screaming fit she had as soon as we got home

hope ledkr is busy strutting her stuff on the dance floor as we speak. Preferably with D in the pram along side her - get her started young

often think of some of the other mners from this thread who haven't posted for ages like pinkie byron dreya etc etc - anyone lurking out there and fancy giving us an update? guess they're too busy.

Thanks tarlia and ponyo. Kind of tempted to just leave her and see what happens. Enjoying the peace/muted bickering with DH - we have to spend ALL of easter sunday with ILs rather than the quick lunch I had hoped for!
jane I was so sorry to read your news and really admire your attitude. Your wedding sounds great, and fwiw I got married pregnant - in a coast empire line dress!
angels my DD does that - great behaviour in public, screaming fits at home. Everyone assumes I'm a wonder mummy, but am far from it!
Jealous of ledkr. Want to go out and

My latest PFB fear is 'do I talk enough to DD in the day?'. I read that we should have an ongoing dialogue with them, but I'm just too tired! Any tips welcome. I do sing a lot... (poor baby!).