feb 2011 - waving those pom poms

[slowangels1]

just to start a new (and possibly last) ante natal thread - come on knitta

Bensmum Anna loves to sleep on me, I am trying to transfer to her Moses basket but after having the "incredible non-sleeper" aka dd2, I am not pushing it, any sleep is better than no sleep. I tried for so long to get dd2 into some kind of sleep routine that I think it left us both exhausted and exasperated for the best part of a year. The relief I felt when I just decided to let her get on with it and sleep with us was immense!! Anna will go back to her Moses basket at night so taking comfort in that!!

ponyo the doc told me to add it after it had been warmed up. Not sure what happens if you don't but if your unsure maybe stick to that advice. I am hoping the Aptimil agress with her. She had it in hospital but when we got home we switched to cow and gate.

slow what are her symptoms??

As regards to c-sec scars....i am almost at 6 weeks post op..and it is still a little sore. not that bad, but hurts if my trousers, granny pants (yep still wearing them!!) rest on it. It is red/purple looking. If it is weeping, i would get it checked out...do you still have the HV coming?

Angels stinks doesnt it?Ill tell you what to do,i had the same.Salt bath everyday,dry well-use a hair dryer on cold-then tape a panty liner onto it to keep it dry,i did this for about 2 weeks and its ok now.I was very self concious.

bensmum new woman?Now that would be pushing it tbh,i had about 2 hrs sleep last night so can i get back to you on that one
Have to say tho she has slept a lot today-maybe due to lack of sleep last night or could be the swing.I always put her down for a sleep after shes fallen asleep on me,you have no choice with the reflux as have to keep her upright.Today ive put her into the swing to sleep as she's upright and swinging,ive transfered her twice into the pram and she's not woken up.
She is sleeping now so hopefully she can go to bed later so the early feed is later iyswim?I am off to bed at 7.

I anyone elses dh a bit dozy at times?Last night i went for a bath then straight to bed leaving him to do the usual night time stuff.
At 3am i found no milk,meds or cool pack for d's feeds,the heating was still on and Ellas packed lunch was not made he had been working or out for 3 nights grrrrr.

Btw i joined a netball team today,what a laugh.

pinky, granny pants on the scar? They are not true granny pants,mine rest on my waist i am back to regular pants now,it can irritate the scar but i feel unsexy enough with my ahem "new shape" i just needed to feel a bit feminine.

Ledkr yes Mr W is suffering from doziness!! He was to feed A for her night feed (about 2amish) and I said I would get up with her at 6am, he was going to lie on - doing overtime tonight. Dd2 woke at about 1.00am, and I went down to see her, sleeps on another floor, I must have fallen asleep. I woke up at 2am, A was squealing the house down literally you would have heard her a mile away. Mr W was asleep in the bed right beside the moses basket, didn't hear a thing. The air was blue by the time I'd finished with him .

haha our air remained ok untill i stomped down the stairs and tripped over the big rucksack he had left at the bottom of the stairs-i was holding D,i shouted up you silly twat are you trying to booby trap me?Ella heard me,she reccounted it this morning over breakfast It begs belief that they hold down the jobs they do,i wonder if they lose prisoners n stuff.
I am off to bed when Ella is in from brownies,d has had lots of sleep so dh is sitting up with her hopefully she will have last feed about 9 then her early feed should be about 5 which i can live with.
Inccidentally as you are Irish,do you say eeeejit and wee shite when you turn the air blue? Or have i watched too many roddy doyal plays?

ledkr oh you misunderstood me. My pants are very much still on the waist! No sexy lingerie for me......yet

Thats good then altho someone did comment that i had my figure back today,not too sure if thats good as i wasnt 13 stone and size 16 before
Trying a new later last feed tonight pray she has feed a bit later in morn then if she doesnt settle ill just get up.
Dh has driven me mental tonight,he says hes tired

Ledkr I tend to go more quietly scary when I'm pissed off, more unhinged Jimmy Nesbitt than cuddly Terry Wogan

The preparations for bridezillas little sisters big day are starting in earnest - eyebrows being plucked etc tomorrow, hair being de-greyed and cut on Fri. Am actually scared of trying my dress on, damn Tescos cheap Easter eggs and my total lack of willpower!! Bring on the Spanx

Hi ladies and babies, hope you are all well. Delia im sorry your having a tough time at the minute, but things will get better.

I have been a bit quiet these days, just been getting on with things as best as i can. Have some good days and bad days and taking each one as they come along. I have been posting on a bereavment threadm the ladies there are so inspirational!

Need some advice, how is your bleeding? Im 3 wks post birth and still bleeding a fair amount, i have also been a wee bit achey down there at imes too; is this normal?
I have also been suffering terrible trapped wind its so bloody painful any tips?

Hope you all sleep well.

I was still bleeding and was achey at 3 weeks post-partum. Much better now though. I also have a lot of wind and it feels like everything got irritated inside. Glad you are finding some comfort on the bereavement threads, jane.

Jane Morning, glad you're posting on bereavement, for various reasons I've been over on that forum once or twice and not only are the women that post inspirational , they are fantastic and a real shelter in the storm, you are one of them x. I am 5 weeks post-partum, I stopped bleeding about 10 days ago, but the bleeding seemed to get heavier the last few days before stopping .

jane I got the trapped wind last week end - I was in such agony I couldn't move and my screams for DH to come in and help (although not exactly sure what he could have done ) were in vain as he was sleeping next door (yes, he too is the incredible sleeping man). I don't really know if there's anything to help it but if you find anything please let me know. I'm glad you've got support on bereavement.

Thanks for the csec scar advice - had a salt bath last night and mum cleaned up the scar using some ancient technique used when she was a nurse in the olden days . I love the panty liner idea - will try that today.

pinkie alices symptoms are the other night she projectiled up most of her evening and nightime feeds and posseted alot after every feed pretty much the next day. Since then she's posseted less and no (yet) more projectile incidents so maybe it was an occasional thing [hopeful emoticon]. she's been really unsettled though in past few days - couldn't settle her yesterday at all between about 5pm and 2am. It seems to be the typical colic type behaviour but some of the screams were so bad she looked like she was in agony with pain, but then, she will suddenly quieten down for a few mins and be completely fine so I don't think she's ill. Maybe the screams are for trapped wind as often screams are followed by loud trumps

wiggles hope wedding preparations continue well and I'm sure you'll fit into your outift.

Peppermint tea is supposed to be good for trapped wind. I'm still bleeding a little bit, not much though. Still a wee bit achey but I think this is because I'm not doing enough pelvic floor exercises, I keep forgetting

Well you can tell from my rambling posts yesterday I was tired

slow dd was screaming loads yesterday, I think it might have been some tummy ache because she had a poo and seemed much better :) Think the gaviscon might be having an effect on her poos because it has gone from being runny to hard, hope she doesn't get constipated poor thing.

ledkr the other day my dp offered to make bottles, there were some in the sterilizer and some washed on the side waiting to be sterilized, and yes, he made up 4 bottles with the unsterilized ones The thing was, I knew before he did it that he would do something like that, but thought I wouldn't nag him, he's capable, leave him to it

jane I think my bleeding stopped about 4 weeks? And I second the peppermint tea recommendation! Glad you're finding the bereavement boards helpful xx

pinkie how are you getting on with the aptamil? Like I said, I think it helps dd bring her wind up, it would be the most expensive one she likes wouldn't it

good to hear from you Jane am glad there is some mn support for you - I am still bleeding almost 4 weeks on but it sporadic, sometimes a day with none and then it will start up again. Have you tried arnica tablets or the aching? That will sort out any bruising.

Mikey had a great night one before last, 10-4, felt like a new woman! Last night not so great so am trying a loose routine today, aiming to feed at 7,10,2,5.30 and then 7 (bedtime) 10 (dream feed) and see what happens during night! Based loosely on Gina ford but without the whip cracking if we are a bit flexible! Also trying to keep sleep to a max of 5 hours in day so he is suitably tired at night! Wish me luck!!

Anyone else bfeastfeeding noticing much change in baby depending on your diet? Mikey is very windy if I have anything too adventurous! Trying to drink milk and eats yoghurts and not too much citrus fruit. Am hoping this will help him settle better. Am also trying to put him down awake but can't help wanting to cuddle him all the time!

40 I was looking through my gina ford book last night for inspiration on routines but felt a bit and scared at how prescriptive it is - I know you're only lookly basing yours on it. I wonder if anyone out there does it rigidly. I can't think you have any kind of life, it's like 9:45 sterilise bottles, 10am drink a glass of water, 11:32 have a poo (well, I jest with the last one but it feels like that when you read it ). My tactic is slightly gina mixed with baby whisperer - I've got approx a 3 hr routine all day of feed, change nappy, try and do something wide awake with alice then try and get her to nap until next feed. She doesn't always go along with it but I'm trying. She's really wingy today again though and it definately seems tummy related. I wonder if I'm eating anything that disagrees with ehr but no idea what or how to tell. It's the evening that's the hardest as she starts getting wingy when DH comes home and gets worse and worse through the evening but after 2am feed she's usually fine . I'm going to try a bit more of a bedtime routine with a bath and maybe baby massage.

Btw - does it work that the more they're awake the more they sleep at night or is that an urban myth? I find if alice wants to sleep in the day I cannot stop her - if she stays awake she gets over tired and really high maintinance.

good to hear from you Jane am glad there is some mn support for you - I am still bleeding almost 4 weeks on but it sporadic, sometimes a day with none and then it will start up again. Have you tried arnica tablets or the aching? That will sort out any bruising.

Mikey had a great night one before last, 10-4, felt like a new woman! Last night not so great so am trying a loose routine today, aiming to feed at 7,10,2,5.30 and then 7 (bedtime) 10 (dream feed) and see what happens during night! Based loosely on Gina ford but without the whip cracking if we are a bit flexible! Also trying to keep sleep to a max of 5 hours in day so he is suitably tired at night! Wish me luck!!

Anyone else bfeastfeeding noticing much change in baby depending on your diet? Mikey is very windy if I have anything too adventurous! Trying to drink milk and eats yoghurts and not too much citrus fruit. Am hoping this will help him settle better. Am also trying to put him down awake but can't help wanting to cuddle him all the time!

Sorry I posted twice!

Angels I have always found if they sleep well in the day then they will sleep well at night; as long as they don't sleep ALL day, of course. If they are over tired then it's curtains. But every baby has been different and need a loose routine but nothing too rigid as want him to be flexible enough to fit in with everyone else! but also need some sleep! Not asking much am I?

Have been googling slimming world when bfing, anyone else thought of this? Have about 1.5stone to shift? Might see if there is a thread - apparently doing it when bfing gives excellent results, as long as you follow the bfing guidlines to ensure baby gets enough calcium (and us of course) which happily means eating more than normal!

Also, I would read Gina ford as she does have some sound advice, but then do your own thing as she makes you feel like a failure if you feed one minute later than stated! I just refer to her routines for each stage and use as a rule of thumb. Take the advice you need and scrap the rest!

ponyo well still had posseting after feeds but MASSIVE TOUCH WOOD no projectle. My only issue is she just doesn't want to eat anymore! She will have about 2 oz per feed and then get fed up. She was on 4 oz a few days ago!! But we have our 6 week check on Monday, so i will keep her on what she wants for now and see if she is still putting weight on or losing it.

slow that sounds like very colicky behavour if you ask me....you might be lucky and not have to go down the reflux route. I'm sure though colic is just as nasty but does usually phase out by 3 months...

So tired. DP is away today and tonight on a training course. Dreading doing it all by myself tonight....i take my hats off to all ladies who always do it, or on their own!!

angels, it's natural for babies to wake more during the night, it's something to do with milk production (even if you are not BF). Don't worry, it doesn't last!

40weeks, there's no evidence that diet affects BF unless your baby has a food allergy or intolerance and these are pretty rare. There's some good info here. There's some info about dieting on there as well. I think WW also have a BF-friendly diet. Pretty sure chocolate is a good source of calcium (I may have made this up...) . Although cows milk is usually the number one suspect of affecting breastmilk so you may end up having to eat lots of spinach instead, sorry!

Nice to hear from jane,i think the aches and pains are normal and also the bleeding.Mine went on for 6+ weeks i think it was worse cos of D's traumatic start and all the running around to the hospitals i did in first 2 weeks and the shock of the cleft etc.im sure that would explain yours too.Glad you are getting some support,theres nothing like someone who's been there is there?

angels i was talkng about that last night,i do think less sleep in the day may help them sleep at night but not to the extreme,and i cant wake up dd either,the 2 times ive tried to interfere with her evening feed ie make it later,she woke all thru the night so i tend to leave her to sort herself out.
Last night dozy dh had her downstairs while i had an early night,he was so dozy it was untrue,just not listening or taking his eyes off he tv.I ended up doing everything myself and left him to try and hang her out for a later feed.Insted he let her fall asleep and she didnt take much of her last feed so woke up at 2-she always goes 7-3 or 4,he then gawped at tv untill 1am despite being tired,so i thought well you obviously dont need sleep and let him get up at 2,he was rubbish,didnt swaddle her and woke her up too much so she was still awake at 4.He was so good until he went back to work now hes like a total novice.

oh yes ponyo re the gaviscon,give dd a little water during the day-D' has a 5ml syringe or 2 and it will stave off the constipation before it gets a real problem.

i agree that less sleep seems to make b sleep more at night and he settles more quickly now, i hope it's due to bedtime routine of bath, massage, skin to skin whilst feeding then bed. i read GF and got myself into such a state about everything that oh wanted to burn the book but looking at it now it's really just common sense (with a lot of guilt thrown in...) but taking it too far in my naive opinion.

ledkr oh dear, dozy dh needs a kick! have you had the 'but i'm at work all day/night' speech yet? i was close to bursting when that emerged!