February 2011 - still some left to pop, surely not...

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Took it upon myself to start a new thread. Everyone's popping right now!

PS: Sorry for the awful rhyme, it was all I could think of

jane I wanted to say how absolutely beautiful Zoe is and how brave you have been getting through yesterday, I can't begin to imagine how hard it must have been.

I know its easy to say this but please look after yourself, and we are all here if you need to talk xxx

To everyone who is struggling with babies who won't settle, have you tried a dummy? I know a lot of people disapprove, but it is a lifesaver with my DD. She is EBF and there are times when she doesn't want the boob anymore but still wants to suck something to help her get off to sleep. swaddling also helps so she has gone down awake in her pram tonight, swaddled with the dummy and went to sleep by herself. just a thought anyway!
before you think I am being smug, she does scream most days between about 5-9pm, in which time we play pass the parcel with her between me, DS1, DS2 and DH...

Am a great fan of the dummy too!

Delilah cant keep a dummy in cos of her weak suck from having the cleft I have about a thousand here as i try different ones.She has been much more settled today on her high calorie milk,she looks drunk tbh haha.
Pinkelephant how old are ds? I have photos of all my boys when dd1 was a baby.they are all holding her and looking sleepy cos i used to thrust her on them as they got up in2 the morning dd1 is now 9 and is a great help carrying dd2 qround whilst i eat/wee/cook/wash bottles im hoping the novelty doesnt wear off.

Ledkr glad Delilah has been better today - bless her it can't be easy for any of you.

My DS are 8 (9 next week) and 11 so old enough to actually be helpful, they will hold her for 10 mins while I cook tea etc. Although DS2 accidentally banged her head on a door handle the other day - oops

yes we too have been using a dummy like nobodies business. Didn't like the idea but it does shut her up quite alot. Only problem is when she sleeps with it and then it falls out and she wakes up screaming for it - this can happen numerous times in the night....I did think I should attach som elastic round her head to keep it on but then thought better of it

We haven't tried a dummy although I m sometimes tempted especially when during the day when Noah needs a sleep he cries for a feed even if he was only fed an hour previously. We end up shushing and rocking him to sleep then as soon as we put him down he cries. Whereas when he goes to sleep after a feed we can put him down and he'll sleep for hours! I think it's the comfort of sucking that he wants so have been tempted to try a dummy.
How often are all of your babies feeding? Noah is tending to feed every two to three hours, sometimes we struggle to get him past the two hour mark! I thought that as he was a big baby he would feed less often but that doesn't seem to be the case!

I have had some success with a dummy, sometimes she looks so offended that I have tried to put it in her mouth and screams even more, but a few times she has sucked and then soothed herself to sleep. Contrary baby! angels at elastic round head!

bensmum dd feeds approx every 3-4 hours, but sometimes she'll have 4oz and sometimes only 1-2oz, so then she'll be hungry again sooner, sometimes an hour. Dp and I end up saying "she cant be hungry again" and checking nappy, bouncing her around etc when she's crying, but no, she is just hungry

Hope everyone had a better night last night - we did thank god. Its just good days and bad days isn't it. I think its easy to forget that there are good days when you've had a screaming, unhappy baby for hours though.

alice was feeding abour every 3 - 4 hrs although often we were having to wake her up for the feeds (all part of the putting on weight plan by mw). Now we're taking out the bottle feeds she's anywhere from 1 hr to 4 hrs.

Erm, is anyone elses baby got what feels like constant loud wind?! Odd question I know but Alice is trumping all the time for England - pretty loudly too. I get really when she does it in company and that people might think it's me and I'm trying to blame DD as it's so loud . Just not sure if this is a general baby thing or we just have a windy baby

Jane, my thoughts and love are still with you. Your little angel Zoe is beautiful. Well done for staying so strong for her on Friday - I wore pink and thought about you all.

How are you today?

Ledkr thanks, its nice to know as I really expected darker coour.

Angels My wee man does man sized farts - they are soooo loud, you really would think he couldn't possibly have done it. Thank god they don't smell!!

Bensmum I have a hungry one, who seems to always be on the breast, usually around every 1.5 hours day and night, but can be up to 3.5. I'm worried my latch is not effective so am going to mention it at his 5 week check this week, but I also read that breast milk is digestd in 1.5 hours, so it might just be that . We are also going through a 'don't put me down' stage - its exhausting.

We've also been trying the dummy this week, it sometimes works, other times like Ponyo's little one, he screams and screams.

Our witching hours seem to be between 10pm-2am, but yesterday it was all day long and he literally could not be put down all day. So I was tied to the sofa enjoyin the snuggles and trying not to think of all the borng things I should be doing..they don't mtter right now..right?!
Our routine has been rather fluid though, so I think thats something we need to work on this week - I've just been too exhausted before but I seem to be getting used to the sleep deprivation. What does every one do for the bedtime routine?

Hope you all have sunshine like we do. I think we are going to try a litle walk after lunch. Runny yolk fried egg sandwich anyone? I've just realised that these are no longer forbidden! YUM!!

(sorry for the dropped letters -keyboard is going mad!)

angels yes to the loud and constant trumping - dd is forever farting and dp and I are still amused by them I was wondering if it is a sign of anything but seems its normal :)

tarlia our routine (if you can call it that) is also very fluid - it just depends on dd and how chilled out she is tbh!
I'm seeing hv on tuesday so might ask her if I need to start thinking about routine yet or just go with the flow for now. It will be interesting to see what other people are doing about this...

Tarlia, the only bedtime routine we have for Noah is that we do 'naked time' at around 5.45pmish. This entails letting Noah lie naked on his changing mat weeing everywhere and Ben and I entertain him, then we bath him around 6ish. He is usually awake after and will sit chilling in his bouncy chair before crying for a feed around 7.30ish.
Angels, yes Noah does frighteningly loud trumps and his belches are quite ferocious too!

good to hear dd isnt the only big farter,and when she poohs its hillarious,all that fuss.She goes bright red and takes breaks bewtween pushes for a little pant,like she's in labour.
The constant feeding has been eased slightly by the new high cal milk but sometimes she still has 4oz and then is either still hungry or hungry 5mins later.I have decided that im just going to feed her and she will throw it up if she has too much,cant keep wasting time delaying the inevitable
She was awake from 12 - 2 last night,not wishing a repeat of the previous nights breakdown i just sat there with tv on and ate my secret peanut mnms stash from my bedside drawer,it helped immensley.
Cheltenham races next week,i cnt wait.Im out with the girls wednesday for bets and champers then sis is having the girls Friday so me and dh can go to gold cup then into town before a full nights sleep,it feels like all my xmas's have come at once haha

brilliant to hear others have trumpers too! ben also does the 'i'm in labour' look when pooing, it's very funny. for all those with boys, how many times has your ds weed all over his face when you change his nappy? i swear ben does it every morning, it must be the cold air when i take his nappy off!

ben goes through stages of feeding every 1.5 hours or 4 hours (had a few 5 hour gaps as well), makes it difficult to plan when to go out as he can feed for ages when he does. i've been feeding him in m&s a lot....

we have bath time and skin to skin at about 9pm then he feeds and goes off to sleep quite well. he loves his baths and has the best face on him in the water. god, i'm so smitten!

Sorry been AWOL for a bit. Had a few rubbish days, well still rubbish TBH. DD1 has a horrible cold which is making her REALLY miserable and clingy. S will not sleep ANYWHERE but the sling during the day so I have her on me all the time. She even detests her pushchair, what baby hates her pushchair?? She bellowed all round town yesterday till I picked her up when she fell asleep straight away. I know she's only tiny but i am v tempted to do some sleep training with her, it probably won't work cos she's too young but I want a break during the day! Have mucho sympathy with others with clingy babies. She's been doing fab at night though, well, fab-ish- down in her room about 8 and last night went till 3.30, I know. pretty good, but then she decided it was morning and didn't sleep except for about 45 minutes until 9am, feeding every 2hours. Wish she'd cluster feed BEFORE her long sleep, not after. Tis exhausting, and I can't sleep in the day cos she's strapped to my chest all the bloody time.

Can you tell I'm not exactly enamoured of her ATM??!!

DH wants nothing to do with her, it's like he has post natal depression or something, he seems jealous of her and resentful that he can't do exacty as he wants any more. TBH I just don't care, he can just work through it by himself, I don't have the energy to try and pander to his self centred adolescent behaviour.

Boy that was a rant, well done for everyone who ploughed through it, have a , I know I will!!

Hope all well, looking forward to hearing from knitta

jane ranting aside, we wore pink in honour of you and your daughter on Friday and thought of you all day. Hope you're holding up.

Debka, sounds like your having a bit of a hard time of it at the moment, and your dh is certainly not helping! Makes me very thankful or my dh who is currently carrying Noah around in the sling as he was fed at 5 before his bath and has already been crying for a feed because he's tired!
Have had a few major meltdowns in the last few days and told dh today that I want to leave. He was so sweet and just listened to what I said nd really tried to help. I honestly think I must have PND cos I just feel so down all the time no matter what is happening. Seeing the doctor tomorrow so will see what she thinks.
I hope your all ok and those with unputdownable babies are getting some respite

Bensmum76 Hope appt goes well tomorrow, and you get all the support you need xx

Anna has had a better day, not as screechy We have no routine to speak of!! Just get dd1 to school, dd2 to playgroup, pick them up, do some shopping, go into town, mooch about. Anna gets her jammies on between 5.30-6.30 and heads to sleep around 7.30ish and up every 3-5 hours to eat!!

A is also a champion farter - sounds like a machine gun

Hi everyone! Sorry I've been a bit quiet recently - I have been reading but it takes me so long that by the time I've caught up and got round to posting something happens and I have to leave it .

Just noticed that we're nearly at the end of the thread - I wonder how Knitta is? I so hope that we hear some good news soon!

Debka I'm sorry that you're having a rubbish
few days and DH is still being crap . I hope
it gets better soon.

Bensmum hope your appt goes well and you get the right support.

DD2 is a champion farter too! Sometimes it feel as if she's shot a hole in my leg. DH and I look at each other as if to say OMG did that just come from such a small person. Her nappies too...OMG! How can so much shit come from someone so small?!?

I'm not really bothered about routine ATM but she's feeding every 3 to 4 hours. Last night she went the longest she's ever gone - her last feed was 10.30pm and then she slept until 6 this morning. I was gobsmacked! So far she seems a lot like DD1 was behaviour-wise.

deb im on my way to sort out dh or shall we just call hm h?Good for you to leave him to it,you cant change other peoples behaviour only your own reaction to it,my ex h was like that when i had dd after our 3ds,he said "you got your girl now dont need me" I had to book into a travel lodge when she was a few weeks old cos he was being so nasty we split up when she was 8 months.They probably are jealous but as you say we have bigger fish to fry.
I have to say i was so touched by dh taking the day off yesterday to help me i felt very cared for.
D also cries in pram and car,very strange.Hard to get out.
I am at all the baby bathing going on,i only bath her a couple of times a week,she just gets a top and tail,but she does hate them and is still so tiny i dont like doing it.
I believe in letting them find their own routine and mine have always slept well.I do think that sleeping somewhere different at night is the way forward tho and i also notice that at 8 o clock she goes into a different sleep to the day,really deep and she cant be woken.
bensmum glad its not just me,i told dd i was leaving too and said what have i done?I have no life anymore i jsut want to disappear on a plane.And i wondered why he took the day off [confused} lol

angels - good luck with weaning from formula. I don't feel like we're making much progress, we're increasing his top-ups because he's still hungry after 60ml.

I had an ugly sobbing meltdown today. DH said he was popping into work for a few minutes then phoned me to say he actually had to work all day (still not home yet). After getting very little sleep last night, I was hoping to have a nap today - impossible with a baby that doesn't like to be put down. I'm bloody exhausted and L screamed for hours for no apparent reason. I feel like I never get a break from him. When DH does hold him at night, he hands him back as soon as L starts crying because "I think he needs to be fed." I don't think he understands how draining it is to do nothing but hold a baby all day.

I'm sorry to hear others are having a rough time but glad I'm not the only one.

Sorry to hear you Dh is being a pain in the ass debka really hope he bucks up his ideas for you.

I have beeen thinking about Knitta hope she is ok and enjoying some new baby snuggles.

Having a better day today, DF took me out for a drive and some lunch which i managed to eat! We have decided to get married this year as we have learned that life is too short, we went out to view a wedding venue today and hope to go visit another during the week. It feels so good to have something to look forward to, but the guilt of feeling better always seeps through.

Jane I'm so glad that you've had a better day today. Congratulations on deciding to get married this year - that's wonderful and it will be something to look forward too. You and your DP are such an inspiration to us all.

*jane8 THAT REALLY IS GREAT NEWS.How lovely.You could have a pink theme for Zoe or some other subtle way of including her.I happened to see you had gone on the bereavment board.how was it?Any help?I remember when i had cancer it was such a relief to speak to others who had been there too.

Can anyone tell me why i am still here and not asleep? I really struggle with going to bed early cos i enjoy the baby free time but regret it when she wakes me up and im shattered

Ledkr I'm like that but then end up falling asleep in front of the telly! The other night I fell asleep downstairs and by the time I hauled my ass up to bed at 2 am, DD2 woke up!

However, I am awake now because I've been giving her her bottle but she's finished now and so off to bed! Let's hope she sleeps for the next four hours!