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February 2011 - still some left to pop, surely not...

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ZeroMinusZero · 09/02/2011 21:55

Took it upon myself to start a new thread. Everyone's popping right now!

PS: Sorry for the awful rhyme, it was all I could think of Blush

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slowangels1 · 10/03/2011 08:07

oh knitta how frustrating - I can imagine seeing all these baby posts is not helping matters either Hmm

americanexpat I hardly get any out either - always seems like so much effort for such little return - I get anything between 5ml and 35ml and I try and do it for maybe 15 mins (mw told me not to do it much longer or might get sore nipples and already have nipple issues). Am getting to the point of giving up on it as it's just so time consuming and each feed with all the bits and bobs will often take me an hour.

Has anyone got any recommendations for baby books that show what babies do at what stage in the first year or so? DH and I have no idea at what point babies focus/talk/crawl etc etc. I know these things vary between babies but we want to get some kind of generic book month by month style to give us an idea. I have my mums old penelope leach (sp?) birth to 5 book (an original from the 70's Shock ) but it doesn't really have an age based type format and is quite flouncy with what point they do what.

takingforeverkid · 10/03/2011 09:38

Now am crying because of all your lovely posts... there is no way round it! thank you so much, you've all been so wonderful all this time, I don't know what I'd do without you! (sorry for over emotional post).

40Weeks · 10/03/2011 11:10

angels do you express when Alice is in the room with you, if not I used to find that looking at a photo of baby helped. I know it sounds weird but it really worked! Or record them on your phone when crying and play it back when expressing. That might also help.

There is a book called "What to expect in the first year" that a few friends had - is there any info in your red book? Or try babycentre.co.uk for updates

ZeroMinusZero · 10/03/2011 11:57

Hello everyone. I haven't had the time to look at the thread too much recently but if anyone likes birth stories, here is mine, which is quite long.

On Monday 28th Feb I was finally booked into a scan as I had been measuring big for so long. I had been told by my community midwife that my dates might be wrong and the baby would come early, but this theory was discredited by midwives at the hospital. Unfortunately this scan was later cancelled because the scanners were too busy (I later heard that they told the midwife they would only scan me if a doctor wanted it done). Incidentally, baby was back to back at this point, and would end up remaining back to back throughout.

On Wednesday 2nd March I saw a community midwife who insisted I get scanned and this time I was finally booked in for one... despite the fact that they previously claimed to not have any space this week.

On Thursday 3rd March I finally had my scan and it was revealed (not very much to my surprise) that I had polyhydramnios and was holding close to triple the average amount of fluid. They talked to me about the danger that this could cause cord prolapse, which got me very scared about my waters breaking ? they told me to ring 999 if they broke.

That night, at about midnight, I felt a small amount of fluid come out, and as I had been so freaked out by the talk of a cord prolapse, I called 999. We were diverted from my regular hospital, Pembury (3 miles away) and had to go to Maidstone (20 miles away) because Pembury were too busy. But once at Maidstone it became apparent that my waters hadn?t broken and poor old MIL had to drive over to get me at 3:30am because a taxi would have cost a fortune. The nurses did say that I could stay till a more reasonable time in the morning but it turned out very lucky that we did call MIL because...

.... almost as soon as we got home my waters broke at 6am on Friday 4th. This time they came with a MASSIVE gush of fluid that just wouldn?t stop. I got on all fours, as I had been told (to avoid cord prolapse) and just stayed there for about ten minutes as fluid poured all over the bed and ruined the mattress. DH called Pembury and this time they did have a free space there so we drove over. I continued to gush fluid all the way there. I don?t know how much there was in total but it felt like a couple of large coke bottles being emptied out from inside me. Sorry if TMI, but it was still coming out hours later. The good news though is that it didn?t cause a prolapse and ultimately didn?t really affect anything.

That Friday morning I had a gel to induce labour to bring on some contractions. I have always struggled with internal exams and have always found smear tests to be excruciatingly painful, so they let me have G&A for the gel. But sadly while my tightenings did get much stronger throughout the day, they didn?t become especially frequent. I spent that night in hospital and DH was sent home for some sleep. The next day, Saturday, was more of the same. Stronger contractions that became quite painful, but they never got more frequent than every five minutes, at best. Most of the time they were closer to ten minutes. So that night, at about 10pm, I was taken to delivery for another induction, this time with a drip, which apparently is a stronger way of inducing. I had now gone for ~32 hours without fluid, so the clock was ticking (72 hours being the max they can go for after waters breaking, I think) but baby was maintaining a good heartbeat throughout. In fact, baby never seemed to have any issues at all, she always found herself perfectly comfortable inside me, even without fluid. She was clearly not that interested in undergoing the struggle of birth and I don?t blame her.

I went into delivery and had a typically excruciating VE, using G&A. The mw was concerned that if I struggle so much with a VE I would find the contractions later more difficult, especially as baby was still back to back. So I had the epidural, then the induction drip. I then lay there and coped for the next 12 hours while we waited for me to get fully dilated.

The epidural didn?t work very well. I continued to use G&A as it wore off quite quickly, and ended up having to be continuously topped up. Baby?s heart was monitored throughout the night and various midwives constantly raised their eyebrows at it as it just wasn?t quite variable enough. But every time they raised their eyebrow, there was a small variation and they were just about satisfied. As it turned out, baby was happy and presumably just simple had quite a steady natural beat.

The second worst moment was when I was about 7cm and they wanted to triple check baby?s happiness by taking a swab of her head, and also securing a heartbeat monitor to her scalp. Even with the epidural and G&A together, this was the most painful moment of my life and became a bit of a shambles when the swab kept mucking about and had to be taken about five times, and when they spent about 20 minutes trying to find the right attachment to the scalp monitor thing.

When I finally reached 10cm I tried pushing a bit but because of the epi, I never could really tell if I was pushing in the right place. But none of my pushing made a difference so they started getting ready to go to theatre. The plan was to try a ventouse quickly and if it didn?t work, immediately go into a section.

Theatre was harrowing. My epi had almost completely worn off and I wasn?t able to take G&A with me. This led to the ridiculous scenario of an anethatist trying to put in a spinal block as I went through the worst contractions with no pain relief (other than the remnants of the epi which was very faint by now). I was in hysterics and DH was getting really upset. I was amazed at how many staff they were dedicating to me: I think I had at least two doctors, if not three, for my section, plus the aneathatist, a peadotrician to check the baby when she came out and about eight midwives hanging around, offering support. They probably spent more time comforting me than they did providing actual medical treatment. The sight of so many people all there simple to help me and baby was very touching.

The ventouse was a no go. They tried for about one minute before giving up, which was probably for the best as I have since read up on mumsnet and there are a few bad stories about ventouses, big babies, tears and so on.

Baby came out and was crying immediately, which was fantastic. I got to look into her eyes when they laid her next to me and then got to hold her back in delivery after I was stitched up. She passed all the rest of her tests with flying colours and was 8lbs 11oz which was exactly what the polyhydramnois scan predicted. I spent the next three days in hospital and was discharged yesterday. My beautiful baby Sophia is wonderful and is loved by her whole family, including five great grandparents.

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byronicheroine · 10/03/2011 12:40

Wow - massive congrats zero that's quite a birth story you have there! Well done. I know it's not exactly what you were planning but in the end you got your gorgeous baby girl and that's all that matters. Enjoy all the cuddles!

Jane we're thinking of you, and sending love. We'll be wearing pink tomorrow too, I think that's a lovely idea.

All much the same here - apart from it was SNOWING yesterday!! I barely know if it's day or night at the moment, and now even the seasons are confusing me. I've been in Greece for 3 winters now and never seen snow settle - we had a few flakes swirling around before Christmas. Weird.

I have a few people threatening asking to come out to visit, and I wish they'd sort themselves out so that I can organise myself! It's not that I don't want to see them, but they can't all come at the same time.

I'm trying to get out and do something every day, but it is is struggle sometimes - especially when it seems so so cold outside. Remind me why I live in Greece again...?! Today's 'trip' involves buying milk. I know, I know, but little steps and all that!

smallblackflowers · 10/03/2011 13:21

I've not been on mn for ages and have only just seen your incredibly sad news jane. My thoughts are with you and your family, and I will also be wearing pink tomorrow xxx

Zero congratulations on your new arrival, Love the name Sophia too - it would have been my choice if DS had been a DD.

wigglesrock · 10/03/2011 13:27

slowangels there is a bit in my red book, called your babys development in the section development, screening & routine reviews which gives guidelines for when baby can follow objects with eyes, raise head etc.

Zero congratulations again, well done - am sure Sophia is gorgeous, take care of yourself xx

byronicheroine Snow lying in Greece, never would have thought it, we're freezing here and supposedly snow on its way but its Ireland [shrugs shoulders] Hope you can continue getting out, I really recommend getting out even if its just to get the paper, always makes me feel better.

takingforever thinking of you, baby will be here very soon. Hope all goes well for you, know its not what you wanted but don't forget some of us on this thread myself included have had really positive inductions, good luck xx

40Weeks · 10/03/2011 13:33

Oh wow zero what a story! You really went through it, well done though and congratulations

Tarlia · 10/03/2011 13:39

knitta I'm so sorry things are not going to plan for you :(. I have my fingers crossed that things kick off naturally for you x

Angels I second what 40 said. I also find I can express more after a hot shower and if I massage the breast. My health nurse also gave me a lecture about not getting cold, especially boobs and feet...Hmm

Awww Zero the end made me well up. Many congratulations again. Sorry it all took so long - but glad Sophia is here safely.

Byron Enjoy your milk buying run Grin. You are doing much better than me, I can go for days without getting out! Due to the 'if you put me down I'll scream and scream' patch we are going through and the fact we live in a 4th floor flat and I find carrying him up painful with my stitches.

Is it the weekend yet? I'm really tired! OH has been away this week with work, so I've been alone for the night feeds. Because of his weight gain the nurse has said to no longer wake him every 3 hours..he has decided that because we are not waking him, he will wake every 2.5 hours Shock. Good thing he is so scrummy!!

Still no news on the name.

TMI ALERT Is anyone still bleeding fire engine red after 4 weeks?! I expected it to be darker by now Hmm

slowangels1 · 10/03/2011 13:42

zero love the birth story - I was thinking while reading it we may have had our babies in the very same room as I had csec at pembury too! I remember commenting at the time (mine was much less traumatic) of having it while in the theatre that I was suprised by how many people were in theatre - something about as they are working with 2 people (ie baby and me) they need alot more staff on hand should anything go wrong with either of us.

Thanks for red book reminder - will check mine. I now have 2 as the hospital gave me a new one despiute me having my original one with me Hmm

Have got a Grin helpful mum update. Since her 'help' yesterday of melting my sterilier and everything in it alice got her own back just now by doing a massive explosive poo all over her while she was being changed - it went all over her best trousers Wink Shock . I know I shouldn't really but I got the giggles a little bit Grin. Only bad thing is it also went all over my carpet Confused.

kntta have you tried trampolining as a last ditch attempt?!

ledkr how did the apt go? Sorry if I missed the post but I don't remember you saying what happened.

slowangels1 · 10/03/2011 13:45

expressing wise I always do it when alice is in the room and often she's crying alot at the same time! also I do it straight after feeding when poss. I think either I'm rubbish at it or I just don't have much milk after all this formula is mucking us up - have a bfing counsellor coming on sat to help me/advise me, she seemed to think it might take a while to get lo sorted back on just me feeding due to the mws enforced formula feeding messing everything up (from bfing point of view).

byronicheroine · 10/03/2011 14:26

tarlia we're on the 6th floor and would struggle without a lift - maybe you could rig up some sort of pulley system out the window? No?! Also have no family around so I have to get my own milk or there would be no tea and that would be bad for everyone, believe me!

angels sorry you are having a hard time with the bf, but i'm really impressed that you are still going and you are doing the right thing getting help. The la leche league have been great, if a little keen on bf for over 2 years already - just let me do a week, then 6 weeks, then we'll see!! Keep at it

Tarlia · 10/03/2011 14:41

Haha Byron what a fab idea maybe I'll give that a go :D. I wish we had a lift! Thank goodness I can leave the pram at the bottom! Luckily just before I gave birth we discovered an internet grocery shopping company which delivers all the way to the door 4 ltrs of milk, 4 ltrs of juice, huge box of soap powder along with usual stuff all delivered on Monday. I'm sure the drivers curse when they see our address :D

janedoe25 · 10/03/2011 14:47

Hi ladies and babies, I am posting a link to Zoe's memorial page for you all to visit if you wish. Again thank you all so much for your support it has been such a comfort to DF and I.

www.zoe.beveridge.muchloved.com

We have arranged everything for the funeral, heading over to the funeral home today to sit with Zoe in her coffin as reccommended by the funeral director.

Oh knitta i hope your baby decides to come soon! You must be to cosy for baby!

knittakid · 10/03/2011 16:20

jane I've just packed a pink pj for tomorrow's induction, really hope you still have some strength in you after the most trying time, you've been amazingly brave and as somebody else said already, really astonishing, you are really an inspiration.

So just back from last monitoring, booked for tomorrow, and had another sweep in the hope of something happening tonight. Not bothered anymore about it not being at home, they are all lovely at the hospital. When i can think about something else I'll read all your other posts. Xxxx

tadjennyp · 10/03/2011 17:00

Jane that is a lovely memorial to Zoe and I have been in floods reading it. Though I'm 8 hours behind you I will be thinking about you tomorrow and will find some pink to wear.

Good luck tomorrow knitta, thinking of you too.

slowangels1 · 10/03/2011 17:06

hi jane , zoe is beautiful. I've just donated and have found a pretty pink material flower corsage to wear tomorrow (none of my pink clothes fit me again yet). I'll be thinking of you at 11:15 and saying a little prayer for you and your family and zoe. xx

slowangels1 · 10/03/2011 17:08

knitta good luck. even if it isn't the birth you planned it'll all be forgotten once you have dc in your arms, plus, at least it will all be over soon!. know that doesn't help at the minute though...

tadjennyp · 10/03/2011 17:20

Have made a donation and got it to accept my American card. I hope we can make a difference, however tiny. Much love to you and your family.

debka · 10/03/2011 17:40

What a beautiful girl, jane. Her memorial page is lovely. I am also in tears reading it. We made a donation too. Have pink outfit all washed and ready for tomorrow. We'll be thinking of you at 11.15 too. Much love D xxxx

Chloe55 · 10/03/2011 17:43

Hope you don't mind me dropping in. I am not sure many of you will know/remember me from your beginning days but I have lurked over the past few months to see how you are all getting on. Congratulations to all of you who have so far had your beautiful babies.

I wasn't going to bother posting, have been happy just lurking but I felt compelled to wish Jane and her family strength for tomorrow and I too will wear pink. I am so sorry you have to go through this Sad

tadjennyp · 10/03/2011 18:04

Hope things are going well for you chloe.

slowangels1 · 10/03/2011 18:19

lovely to hear from you chloe and I hope that you are well??

wigglesrock · 10/03/2011 18:48

Jane beautiful, beautiful memorial page, well done sweetheart. Will be saying a prayer for Zoe, you and your fiance and whole family tomorrow. Have pink top for me and pink clothes for 3 dds, and Mr Wiggles is wearing a "non-girly!!" pink T-shirt tomorrow. We will be N.Irelands answer to the Pink Ladies tomorrow!! Thinking of you xxx

wigglesrock · 10/03/2011 18:53

Jane Sorry just realised that when I posted message on the Sands donate page, I didn't say I was from Mumsnet, incase you're wondering who Fiona is - its me!!

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