I wandered lonely as a PESH

[Muser]

That floats on high o'er vales and hills
When all at once I saw a crowd
Of cackling, quaffing, ne-er-do-wells

Pull up a seat, grap a glass of vino and a piece of sushi, it's Delitime again.

BESH BAYBEES
dontrythisathome, girl born March 25.
Cheggers, twinz girlz, born April.
FannyPriceless, boy, born June 8.
CurlyCasper, girl, born June 24.
CUNextTuesday, boy, born June 29.
AlpinePony, boy, born 1 July.
Carrots, boy, born July.
IggyPiggy, girl, born July.
Cosmosis, boy, born Sept 5.
Backinthebox, boy, born Sept 7.
Skatergrrrl, girl, born Sept 10.
VAG, boy, born Oct 2.
Silversky, boy, born Nov 1
SomethingSuitablyWitty, awaiting update

UPDIFFED
Honeymoo, 3 wees a night, due October 31 (boy)
okiecokie, self-confessed control freak, due November 6
SomethingSuitablyWitty, benelux babe, due November 14
ReginaMonologue, knows when all the sales are, due November 20 (boy)
maswera, jungle hottie, due December 11
PollyPoo, wants to name her baybee after the dog, The New Messiah is due December 25
MrsFC, joining whether she wants to or not, due 22 Jan
ChoChoSan, "and Lo! The lord did resurrect her petrified womb", due 31 Jan
CluckyKate, hatching an egg, due February 2
Perfect Dromedary, defied medical science, due February 24
Muser, will she ever stop puking?, due February 27
Ginhag, reckless cake-carrier, due 28th Feb
Medee, finally over the Haribo craving, due March 12
Casserole, completely out of witty things to add, due April 8
Scorpette, now carrying a RL baby in addition to Clothilda and the squid, due 21 May.
Laurielou, the unmarried hussy with the "surprise" diff, due 31 May (ish)
Rocketleaf, no longer jealous of morning sickness, due 1 June.
Twinkle Toes, supergluing her fanjo shut, due 23 June.

Seems I pre-empted a cat sick story yesterday with all the talk of carpet cleaning. I was loving woken this morning to the sound of wretching on the landing. One of the cats vommed all across it and then decided to come into our room too and finish off. I was up first and so had to clear it up - needless to say in my current state it made me heave and then I was sick, which in turn woke up Mini O. Mr O was highly impressed as he was hoping for a lie in . I dashed out of the door to get to work and left him with it.

Orchid orchid, you have so much to learn. Being up first, or seeing the puke first, no longer means you have to do the cleaning up. You are pregnant and therefore entirely within your rights to force MrOrchid to clean it all up. It's the rules of being pregnant.

If we're doing list updating I want to update my bit to reflect the reduction in puking.

Muser, finally blooming, due February 27

Happy Crimbletide, y'all! Awaaaay iiin aaaa maaangerrr

Speak not of child-proofing homes. As someone who makes Mr Trebus look like an OCD-suffering minimalist, I can't even bear to think of how much work that will entail for our place.

Unbelievably, TYF has gone to work! We've had over a foot of snow overnight (on top of the existing foot!) and yet when I woke up, his car had gone! His moby is going straight to voicemail, which he never bloody checks, and they can't take external calls at work, so I don't know 100% if he's actually got there! I think he's mad to go in when he doesn't need to (boss said he understood if no-one turned up y'day).

Muser, that's an update that makes everyone v v v happy

My sister called me the other day after seeing my latest bump pic, just to tell me I was both blooming and mahoosive. She was chortling at how big I might get.

You don't need to child-proof until they start moving. Stay in denial people.

Re: child-proofing: can I not just shout 'NO!' at them every time they go near anything? I mean, it'll give them massive complexes but I'd rather save up for the counselling they'll need in later life than bother with all that faff

PS Note that I am presuming I'll have more than one. Am slowly starting to feel more human and miraculously forgetting/blocking out the depths of the first trimester nightmare!

Scorps you nutter I can distinctly remember after giving birth saying 'I'm never doing that again'. Seems I have a poor memory too...

Muse Denial is most definately a lovely place to be. Worry not until you're faced with it seems to be a good mantra (and one that I must keep repeating to myself)

Ooh, just thought that I don't want to panic people about the birth - argh - sorry guys! Can I dig myself out of the hole by saying that I actually had a lovely home birth. It was a painful but very nice experience. Fear not!!

Even when they get mobile you just put things on the sofa, then put things on the mantelpiece. Becomes a case of constantly seeking higher ground. MiniG is pretty reliable now at 2 and a a half and I have dispensed with stairgates and fireguards and the like.

MrG been stuck in Leeds for 4 frigging days now in the blizzard conditions. Have just told him not to attempt to get back tonight as planned as we are visiting the Motherland up North on Sat anyway so better to just struggle then. The irony is there is bugger all snow here - just a little dusting! And I love snow - am gutted!

6 weeks tomorrow. Pee sticks darker than the control this morning. Yay! Only 2 and a half weels til scan.

You know this whole moaning thing? Sorry to return back to it but it struck me yesterday that part of it is dictated by what trimester you are in. Generally (and don't shoot me down for generalising, please, I realise there are exceptions) you feel shit, vommy and worried in first trimester so tend to moan. Then you feel lovely in second trimester, glowing, first kicks, growing a little bump, so tend to be happy and not moan; then again later in third trimester tiredness creeps back and assorted aches and pains and worries/impatience about labour. So where you are kind of depends where you are in your pregnancy - and as we are a non-trimester based AN group we are always going to feel these conflicts a little bit.

The birth....I've just requested my birth notes from last time as really want to get my head around what happened so hopefully I can finally get my home birth this time! I might do Hypon birthing properly this time - last time just had a CD. But might find a class. And am going to talk to MrG about shelling out for a Doula as I found I was too inwards looking when in labour to actually talk to anyone and MrG is really not the most assertive man in the world (understatement).

Anyne else got/had a doula? Worth it?

Eeek, my MW just rang to ask if I was going to be able to get to my appointment due to the snow! I had totally forgotten about it I said not, and we rescheduled - she said it's only for her to write up all my blood test results, etc., so not v important to do today. Have also got my 20 week scan booked - 4th Jan (although I turn 21 wk the next day) :)

Orchid, don't worry, you didn't worry me. I was talking to TYF t'other night about birth. I was saying how the thought of that much pain is scary but once you accept that, the fear starts to go away. And he pointed out that the mind has to get over anything traumatic (however minor) quickly so people can keep on going.

Great points about the trimester clashes, LGG :) Sorry to hear Mr G is stranded - hope he gets home ASAP.

LadyGG I think you're right, to an extent, about the trimester clashes. It's a tricky business, managing all the pregnancy hormones.

For me, it's been a bit of a personality/learning thing, too. Having had enormous quantities of support from the lovely BESH throughout the whole fail-to-concieve-be-sent-to-assisted-conception saga, I haven't wanted to bitch about ANYTHING to do with this pregnancy, even when it has been tough. I think it's part of my people-pleasing makeup to keep everything nice.

I think the other thing that I've struggled with, and the reason that I've posted less and less, is that it's quite hard to post trivia/gossip after someone has talked about their horrible experiences. Feels a bit insensitive to me. But again, that's just me, and everyone else is right to say that it ought to be a thread for everything to do with pregnancy.

But often when something horrible is hapening I think it helps that person to be distracted by random gossip and trivia.

Eurgh, so not feeling work today. Want to be at home playing with MiniG and daydreaming. I had his pictures back from nursery yesterday - they are lovely . Going to get some framed for family presents for Christmas.

Aw, Drom, is good to hear your take on things. As someone who has beel v ill and had a right old moan, I love the trivia and gossip and light stuff, because it really brightens my day and also helps remind that things are just going to get better and certain horrible things are temporary. If I feel crap, I don't find it tactless if others feel great, quite the opposite.

Having a moan about stuff doesn't mean that people are ungrateful, either towards all the amazing ESH support they've got and still get or about being pg in itself. Having a moan when things are really horrible is healthy, because you get it out of your system and don't get resentful or ungrateful. Is only human nature to need to offload when things feel like they're getting a bit too much. I personally moan about the smaller things so I can feel in control of the bigger things (yes, all the health stuff I've discussed here is the least of my worries!). It'd be lovely if everything could be nice all the time, but all too often things aren't nice and people need a space to have a vent. Then things can be nice again after it's out of their system :)

LGG, I want one of those! :)

Sorry to clusterpost, but WOOHOO! My maternity exemption card has finally arrived and I can now go to the chemist and claim back all the £ I've spent on prescriptions. I'm in the money!

TYF is coming home early again, my hair and skin are actually looking okay and I feel quite well compared to how I have been, so is a good day today :)

Now all I need is that ass-hat Stuart to be kicked off The Apprentice tonight and I'll be in clover

LGG sorry to hear about Mr GG being stranded. What an arse! Glad your boy's pictures are cheering you up though

Scorps good to hear your card has arrived and you have another scan booked. I'm hopefully ringing up to get mine sorted tomorrow as I've not heard anything yet. Even better to hear you're turning the corner with the symptoms.

Drom pliz to post trivia. I don't think any of us see it as insensitive, we need all sorts of dicussions on here (good, bad, poignant, trivial) - it makes for a more healthy board in my opinion.

I have been in bed all day (mostly working) as after getting up at 6.15 to go in I failed to be able to park my car safely at work. First of all I skidded down one side of the car park, only to have to spend 10 mins skidding back up the other side. I thought I was being clever by parking at the top of the hill so that if the snow worsened I didn't have to try and get up the hill, only to find that my car wouldn't stay still. I got out and it slipped about a foot down the hill again!!!! I then had to ask 4 blokes to push me out of the car park to safety . I've got to go out again soon which should be fun!

Oh wow Orchid, that sounds grim. Much better to be at home.

I have a Question about my left hip. I'm currently sitting down and hip hurts, sort of deep in the bit where hip becomes bum. When I tense I can feel it popping.

What the hell is popping? It doesn't pop on my right. What can be popping that deep in my bum/hip? I'm sure it's too low and far back for hip joint. But I could be wrong. Anyway, surely it's not meant to pop?

Is it the hip joint? Haven't a clue am sorry, my hip is a bit clicky sometimes but has never, to my knowledge, popped. I bet Casserole knows.

I think it has to be the hip joint, even though it doesn't seem to be where I think my hip joint should be. It's definitely a pop rather than a click. I get clicky knees all the time.

Deep where hip becomes bum suggests sciatica to me, but not if it is the joint. Sciatica is definitely tissue.

Orchid, that sounds pretty scary Glad you've been tucked up safely all day - do you really have to go out in the car again? I know how hilly parts of our dear city/county can be

Muse, sounds painful. Could you have just slept or sat a bit funny and it's now protesting? Things clicking can feel like popping (not that that helps!). If it continues, it might be wise to have a word with someone about it.

Gah, spent nearly an hour and a half at the chemist cos they said they didn't know how to process the refund and were treating me suspiciously, like I was trying to fiddle them. Got me cash in the end though All £14.40 of it!!!

It's not really painful, it's stiff more than anything. I have a midwife appointment week after next, so I can bring it up then. It's been niggling since the weekend.

Could also be your sacroiliac joint Muse - a pillow between your knees at night might help. An Osteopath would also help....good for getting hips & pelvis into optimal birthing position too so worth the investment in the latter stages.

Glad you found some knights in shining armour to get you out of that fix Orchs - reminds me of a time a friend went to Ikea with her horse trailer & only realised at the top of the spiral car-park ramp that said trailer was too tall. Builders working nearby had a right laugh at her attempts to do 51-point turn until one of them came to her rescue.

I don't mind Stuart Scorps....at least he is entertaining. Can't stand that Chris knob tho...

I have just googled pelvic girdle pain and wondering if it is that. They do describe it as pain in buttocks. And the pain is really at the top of my buttocks.

I do the pillow thing already. I am sitting on an exercise ball as we speak and am about to have a nice bath.

It's not very painful, just a dull ache and sometimes more of a stiffness. I'm sure I'll be fine.