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moomin156 · 03/11/2010 18:10

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Mummynumber2 · 03/11/2010 20:10

Just a quick post. Very sick this evening and need to sleep!

cep did you have an internal scan by any chance? Just wondering as everytime I've had an internal scan since my first lot if bleeding I've had a bit of spotting the next day.

Feeling really annoied, got letter posted this afternoon saying I had a midwives apps today at 11.45. It was only posted day before yesterday. Now I can't get hold of the mw as the no on the letter seems to be wrong!

Night night everyone!

Mummynumber2 · 03/11/2010 20:12

Annoyed not annoied! I need to sleep!

cep · 03/11/2010 20:24

it was an internal, i hadn't thought of that.

Night mummynumber 2 - How annoying i bet they used 2nd class as well, can you gt a messgae to her via the gp?

i think i'll be going to bed as well now, sooo tired.

Night All

milliemuffin · 03/11/2010 20:35

Knackered - what's wrong with your knees? I've been seeing an osteopath for a couple of months who wanted to refer me for an arthroscopy as I've had painful knees since I started snowboarding ten years ago but would you believe he only sent the letter to my gp today! Pretty sure they won't operate on a pregnant lady!

Clarkiee · 03/11/2010 20:54

I'm very tired tonight. I'm a primary school teacher- started work at 7.30am and it was parents evening so finished at 7.30pm.

But Wednesday afternoon I get some release time because I am part of the managment structure. I'm normally snowed under but today I said I was going to the resource library and I actually went home for a nap Shock not told anyone! Just wanted to make sure I was alert for parents evening Wink

Clarkiee · 03/11/2010 20:55

p.s hope everyone finds us here- shame theres not a link from the last thread (took me a while to find this one).

Star82 · 03/11/2010 21:33

Thanks supersunny for explaining your situation. It helps a lot as i don't really know anyone that has had a miscarriage. I'm very lucky in that the only two pregnancies i've had have resulted in two healthy babies. To you and issystark, what is an ERPC? Excuse my ignorance, i'm delving into waters never touched before here and unsure on abbrieviations. I'm assuming it's a d&c type thing?
I will go on Saturday and report back on findings and go from there.
I am disappointed with the hospital but the sonographer tried her best for an earlier scan because i think she realised how unlikely it would be to have conceived 2 days before i got a positive test. I asked if they'd consider taking my bloods 48 hours apart and even that was a no!!
Anyway, thanks so much to everyone. Have a lovely evening. Off to watch apprentice i've sky+, :)

moomin156 · 03/11/2010 21:36

ERPC is exactly that, a d&c.....but it stands for evacuation of retained products of pregnancy. Sorry that this is such an anxious time for you, let us know how you get on and we are all here to support if you need us

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8rubberduckies · 03/11/2010 21:39

Just a quick check-in before I go to bed Wink.

Star really sorry to hear about your scan, I hope Saturday goes as well as possible and you get an answer one way or the other.

I am very excited as I have my booking appointment tomorrow! I am with a different group of midwives to last time and I've heard this group are fab.

Wolfcub I don't know if it's the same everywhere but around these parts you only have the same midwives for antenatal as for labour on NHS if you go for a home birth. Different ones usually work at the hospital / midwife-led unit to those who are attached to your doctor's surgery. After you've had bubba and are at home you will again be looked after by the midwives who you saw throughout your pregnancy. Welcome and congratulations by the way x

motherofsnortpigs · 03/11/2010 22:12

Evening ladies! Just checking in to the new thread.

With regard to brown discharge/blood: that was my first pregnancy symptom this time round (OK, so I am a bit of an idiot and can't count so hadn't really registered that I'd missed a period). mummynumber2 said about it being possible after an internal scan - it is also possible after sex (due to changes in the cervix, I think). I could type 'try not to worry' but that is pointless...

yellowtom don't freak too much about having 6 vials of blood taken, they only stab you once :)

lol Clarkiee No point in being on the SMT if you can't take advantage occasionally (and parents' evenings are hard work, I used to hide in my lab and have a quick snooze beforehand, and I wasn't even pg).

Well, I've booked to see the MW on Monday. Scan has already come through for 20th Nov. Going to go to bed now and quitely contemplate when I can next eat Primula cheese spread with prawns.

KaraStarbuckThrace · 04/11/2010 07:15

Couriselle - you are entitled to paid time of for AN appointments. Shock at the sleep walking. I have had periods of wakefulness and strange dreams, but don't think I have been sleepwalking.

Cep - glad you are feeling more positive now. I sympathise with the coughing toddler, my 2.10 yo does sometimes nap, but all the times, and if he does nap he tends to stay up to around 8pm, which is a problem if I need to start work then, and DH isn't home!

Broughthimaround - your GP sounds lovely :)

Star - hope you are okay :( Are you able to self-refer to your EPU?

Wlfcub - I agree it depends, generally it is tne community MWs who do your AN appointments, and PN appointments, and a different set of MWs at the hospital.

IssyStark · 04/11/2010 08:02

cep just to add that when I was spoting with the garklet, I always had a little bit more after I'd had an internal. It freaked me out as well until the Spouse (a scientist) pointed out that I'd just had a big probe inside me rummaging around and it was almost bound to dislodge any old blood lurked about ;)

Star82 · 04/11/2010 09:26

Kara I'm doing ok thanks.
No i need a GP referral. The sonographer tried to put me through once she realised that this wasn't going to be a case of me being behind with dates but there were no official avenues to refer me to them as i'm not bleeding/cramping.
It wouldn't be so bad if i thought there was a chance i could just be behind, but to say conception occured two days before my positive test, is just impossible. I'm just waiting potentially for 5 weeks to miscarry. I think it'll likely send me insane. I already feel like i can't focus on things as that's just playing on my mind. I obviously miscarried a week and a half ago but they wont help until my 12 week scan or until i bleed. DH has a doctor at work who's quite helpful so will get him to see if doc can speed things through.

neenewps · 04/11/2010 09:38

Oh star82 how absolutely awful for you. I hope you manage to see someone sooner than 5 weeks time. I really think it is appalling that you have to wait that long?

Sending you a big cyber hug

IssyStark · 04/11/2010 09:49

Star if the private scan shows no change from the NHS scan (as it is likely too), then that will be enough grounds for the GP to refer you to the EPU. I've done this myself many times as I used to pay for private scans at 9w because I regularly miscarried at 7.5-8.5w and then take the scan report to my GP who would get me into the EPU the same day or the next morning (I'm so well-know at the EPU they let me self-refer now, not a loyalty card i ever wanted to have!).

Sometimes the NHS can be a bit slow, and in many cases women are off by a week so you can understand their caution to an extent. They don't often pick up missed miscarriages this early or this recent but a 5 week wait is ridiculous and certainly will not be the case once you have evidence that the pregnancy has indeed ended.

Apologies for not saying before how sorry I am that you are going through this. Take care.

knackered76 · 04/11/2010 09:52

Morning all,

cep - luckily I didn't need to put ketchup on them, they are so full of it anyway!!! Hadn't thought about the internal aspect either so probably the cause.

Clarkiee - don't envy the parent's evening! I used to be primary as well (in my former life:)) but have to say I used to really enjoy parent's evenings, although was never pregnant at the time :) Agree with mother, no point being SMT if you can't have a few perks (I used to get first choice of pastries with the head!)!

Star82 - glad you're doing okay at the moment. Waiting 5 weeks is poor patient care. Fingers crossed your DH can get something done quicker for you. I know how you feel about waiting, once mine was confirmed (after 2 healthy pregnancies as well so a complete shock) I just wanted it over with. Is your scan on saturday at a private hospital? I was diagnosed at a private hospital and the man who did me actually carried out my erpc and booked me in at the local hospital where he also worked. I was diagnosed on the friday and had the procedure on the following tuesday.

Milliemuffin - I did the grim 8 2 years ago and destroyed my knees. Apparently a classic case of doing too much too soon. Since then I have seen a physio, an osteopath a sports injury specialist and a doctor. I've had an mri on them and they can find nothing wrong. My osteopath reckons it's because my cartilage is soft but I can't even run for 5 minutes now without them hurting :( Very annoying as I loved running, especially outside in the cold! Every few months I try and build up slowy. I managed to get to 4 minutes on the running machine pre this pregnancy!!!!

8rubberdukies - hope your appointment goes well today :)

Enjoy your day ladies, happy thursday!

takethatlady · 04/11/2010 09:54

star and cep what a worrying time for you both. star that treatment sounds ridiculous - not even letting you have a blood test! I went to the A&E a couple of weeks ago with stomach pains (which turned out to be absolutely nothing) and they gave me four blood tests, a urine test, an ECG and all sorts. Like others have said I'd see what happens in your scan on Saturday - it might just totally clarify things - but if it's still uncertain I'd start stamping my feet.

Did another pregnancy test yesterday, Tesco's own, and the line was very thick and darker than the control line and appeared before the control line had even started to emerge. With no ms I just wanted to check!

Still can't get through to the midwife. A week of trying and she's never turned her phone on! Ringing the GP later to try and get it sorted out.

yellowtomato · 04/11/2010 09:55

Star i am really sorry that you are going through this. I had the same experience at Issy in that I had a private scan which confirmed mmc which I then took to the GP who referred me to the EPU. They scanned again before they would discuss options but at least it got things moving. I totally feel for you about the limbo, it really is difficult to think about anything else. Big hug.

wonnaywombat · 04/11/2010 10:00

Thinking of you star and sending lots of well wishes your way.

wonnaywombat · 04/11/2010 10:04

I seem to have turned into a hunger monster and constantly thinking about food (sorry for those of you suffering with ms....) I've even started liking lamb which I never used to - must be something to do with the bean being half Kiwi!

Evening wedding reception tomorrow night so planning my (non)drinking tactics in conjunction with DH - such skullduggery involved in these early weeks!

takethatlady · 04/11/2010 10:18

Grin at the Kiwi bean.

I was just making a drink in the kitchen and all of a sudden started retching and wanting to throw up. It was absolutely awful for about 30 seconds (tmi, but the sick only made it half way up my throat Blush) and I felt like absolute hell.

Now I feel back to normal, completely, and have just eaten some Shreddies.

Does anyone get ms like this? Or is it just totally psychosomatic? Grin

broughthimroundtotheidea · 04/11/2010 11:14

Oh my god I'm so nervous about today , am physically shaking and feel like I am gonna throw up, and remembering the last time I felt like this was when my bro was dying is only making me worse. Especially as the hospital I may have to go to is where he died (but also where DD and DS were born so not all bad) ah well I best get going hope it goes well for you today 8rubberduckies xx

TabithaTwitchet · 04/11/2010 11:15

Here you all are! Lost the thread.

takethatlady my ms is like that sometimes, although I also feel generally nauseous nearly all the time. But something like opening the kitchen cupboards/fridge, changing DD's nappy, thinking about a (usually completely innocuous) food quite often has me retching uncontrollably. I can usually just about get a grip on myself by taking lots of deep breaths...
Finding it a bit hard to cook anything at the moment as I never know what will set me off Grin.

Has anyone else told their DC that they are pregnant yet? Or know when they are planning on telling them? We have told DD (aged 2) already - didn't mean to, but DH was telling her to be careful the other day when she was throwing herself onto my stomach on the sofa, and she asked seriously "Is there a baby in your tummy, Mummy?" Smile. We were a bit taken aback, although to DD I suppose it is a v natural state, loads of my friends are pg at the moment. I thought she would forget, but she keeps talking about the baby, and how she is going to push it in the pram and give it cuddles etc. Now I am a bit worried that we have told her far too early and she will get fed up with waiting. After all, I will probably get fed up with waiting myself! Grin

8rubberduckies · 04/11/2010 11:32

Big, deep breaths broughthimround, and let us know how it goes!

Tabitha I have told my ds, who is 2.3, he is not a happy bunny, so we daren't mention it in front of him now! Whenever we have asked him how he feels about having a baby brother or sister he scowls at us and says "NO!". Any mention of babies at all in front of him gets the same response. He has started being very clingy to me since we found out, wakes up a lot in the night when he used to be a great sleeper, and won't let dp hug or kiss me in front of him Confused. He launches himself between us and takes over on the kissing and cuddling front himself, whilst pushing dp away... poor dp! He has always been a very touchy-feely little boy, but he's very possessive of me now! I think we may have trouble ahead ... Hmm

NoMoreChocBiscuits · 04/11/2010 11:46

Tabitha we've told our DS (2 and 3/4) but I don't think he really understands though, either that or he's in denial, because he does get quite jealous when I'm holding someone elses baby. Actually sounds a lot like your son 8RD

Can't believe how hungry I am today!!

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