May 2011 - Bring on the 2nd Trimester!

[MummyWilliams]

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xposts kiwi take it easy and hope the pains go soon.

I just had to share the cutest thing happened last night. DS (who is 2.5) has a line of giving us imaginary things - generally food, or snails - particularly when he is sitting on the potty before bed. Well last night he gave DH an imaginary baby in his outstretched cupped hands! Later he brought it over to me, then tripped and said "oh no baby fall-ed over" picked it up again and gave me the imaginary baby to look after. He keeps saying "bigger, bigger bigger" whilst moving his hands progressively further apart - so I suppose my message about the baby having to get a lot larger before it comes out has got through. Lots of his nursery friends have expectant mothers so there is lots of chat about babies in mummys' tummies. He's also started saying "hello baby!" to my tummy. I think the novelty might wear off soon.

Hello everyone - back again after about a week away...and had first scan yesterday which went perfectly - we saw he/she kicking away and we're a week further than expected so 13+1 now!
makes it seem all the more real now, especially for DH who I'm sure had his suspicions I was faking the whole pukey thing...

kiwigirl I am with you on the giant boobs thing - I went to buy new bras 2 cup sizes bigger than normal and they were too tight! DH loving it but I'm batting him away right now AND my jeans no longer fit. am going for pjs when at home..is that way too slobby for 13 weeks?!

as you say - if only the nausea would leave me alone for a few hours I could be a bright and breezy 'hurrah I'm going to be a fab mum' kinda girl but right now....

Afternoon all! The exhaustion where you don't have any energy seems to have gone. So pleased. Unfortunately though DD (4) has severe asthma and is off school. She has been hospitalized twice in the last 6 weeks, and am probably going to ask for her to go part time.

Lucky that we didn't chuck out the expensive baby stuff like cribs and car seats, but gave away all baby clothes.

Hmmm. French baby clothes sound adorable....

Fortunately have my birthday coming up. Would it be weird to ask for baby gros?

Kiwigirl: I have been suprised with the boob growth thing. My boobs are in proportion to my round body and at 13 weeks I have gone up 2 sizes to a G cup!! I thought they would not be changing that much, so can only guess how they will end up!!

Had my 2nd scan with consultant today and my due date is now 15th May so a little earlier than he thought last time, was lovely to see it again and this time doing sit ups! A bit miffed tho as they said last time they would be doing it all today but now I have to go back again for all the bloods next week so I'm not looking forward to telling work I need more time off as they have been very supportive so far.

Now working out what to do with the rest of the day as not feeling great but still want to do something

plasma glucose level - anyone any knowledge? Just rang for blood test results (same scenario as cowboylover) and the doctor had left a note to ask if I was fasting when they took the blood, and they'll ring back. Trying not to panic, but anything coming up online mentions gestational diabetes. I've been eating whenever possible to quell the nausea, so alarm bells!

Thanks for any advice...

hey everyone, just wanted to say i have been reading and catching up, still no laptop tho so just wanted to say hello

iheart- glad all went ok :)

and i would also like to find out sex of baby for DPs sake i really hope a boy but i really dont mind for myself think its nice to know in advance i like surprises normally but it feels like a surprise anyway afta waiting 20 wks

sorry cant namecheck but as soon as i have a laptop i will send a proper message

speak to u all soon

Hello everyone one, sorry for long radio silence.

Sorry to hear some of you are having tough times with your DHs/DPs. It's not surprising really though that pregnancy can be a strain on a relationship, once you factor in the exhaustion, hormones, anxiety and probable lack of sex...

Ilovemydog yes isn't it a relief now that the total all-draining exhaustion has passed? I almost feel like "me" again and have remembered what it's like to feel vaguely energetic! Sorry to hear about your DD. Hospitalisation does sound severe, poor thing.

Gingerwench very cute! My DS says "hello baby" to my tummy too, it really does melt you doesn't it? My mum gave my DS a doll for his birthday recently, which he calls his "beebee" and he pretends it's crying, feeds it milk and then burps it!

Sorry sesame, don't know anything about it, but I'm sure someone will have some wisdom to impart.

Cowboy snap, I'm currently a G cup too! Was a DD pre-DS but never got below an E post breastfeeding. Would love to go back to a DD after this one, anything larger seems rather unwieldy! (not to mention a PITA with clothes)

Yes we'll be finding out the sex too - I can't wait. Jbells I agree, it already feels like a surprise after waiting 20 weeks - or in my case, it'll be 28 weeks. It's really frustrating but they don't tell you at the 20 week scan at my hospital - last time I was in London and they did. We've booked a 4D scan for late January so will find out from that. Seems an eternity away! DH doesn't care I think, but I'm hoping for a girl, because this is our second and final child, we're both definite about that, and I've always wanted a daughter, so this is my last chance. Having said that, if it's another boy, DS is so gorgeous, I couldn't possibly object to having another little one like him! I will need some time to come to terms with the fact that I'm not going to have a daughter however, which is another reason (other than total curiosity) to find out pre-birth.

Scan today. All's well. Tiny wee thing in there waving at us. So that's marvellous.

And it turns out that I when I had an unspecified virus a couple of weeks ago, followed by fatigue of monumental proportions (natch attributed to 1st trimester), it was in fact glandular fever.

Unexpected. Must stop snogging all those freshers.

Fortunately it seems no damage done to wee babe although fatigue is still horribly present. Not much can be done except rest, massages, strapping young men in loins cloths smothered in baby oil waving fans over my prone body on sofa and lots of peeled grapes. That sort of thing.

<strong>kiwi</strong> I also had the John Lewis experience and seem to have had an identical one to you. But weren't you extremely disappointed by the frumpy range of unwired bras on offer? I feel about as sexy as Dame Edna Everidge in scaffolding at the moment... Not a good combo with all those oiled up, loin cloth'd young men.

V jealous of the massage & loin cloths - reminds me of my hen do

Have been off sick with now nasty bronchitis & sinisitis, so total sense of humour failure. Really not sure how ended up cooking for hubby & stepson - how pants is that?!

Hi all!

Really enjoyed reading all the scan news and good to hear gran is recovering :) Sorry to hear about troublesome DPs, sickness and worrysome GD though. Thanks very much for well wishes re my dress and sympathy re my DP (who, to be fair has been lovely since). Apologies can't name check as on phone again.

Just chipping my two penneth in quickly- anyone got bad tummy/bump related ache? I've been really uncomfortable/in low level pain the last few days. Hard to explain but I feel HUGE, like i've eaten a 20 course meal, crossed with nagging period pain and my bump has shot out! Good for bean but worrying for my wedding dress! Had a patch of this stretchy pain about a fortnight ago and then it passed but it's back with avengence :(

Hi, I have name changed back to my regular name, its IheartRPatz. I still do heart R Patz, but much prefer my regular name! I'll update my stats details shortly.

Am still bleeding/spotting which is getting really bloody annoying now, as the big perk of pregnancy is not having to deal with that kind of stuff. Hey ho, hopefully things will settle.

Tinwe - also suffering from aches and pains in stomach/back. When I was having DD, I had the same kind of pains and the midwife told me it was most likely related to softening of ligaments etc. Am trying not to worry about it, but everytime I "ouch", DH jumps up in a panic!

We're torn between finding out whether we're having a boy or girl. We didn't the first time around, after all, you dont get any big surprises in life anymore so it was nice not knowing until the day, especially as we were having a section, so no guessing games as to when the baby was making an appearance. However, this time, we may find out just to let DD know whether she's getting a brother or sister. My next scan is on 6th Jan. Luckily DH will be off work for that one, so at least he can attend :)

Annoyingly, got to have a glucose test done as well, think that is in February, and am already not looking forward to it, the whole not eating for hours, then having to drink lucocaze and having more tests two hours later before finally being able to eat. Am hoping I dont throw up in the hospital waiting room! The consultant had said I could have the glucose test done at my local surgery, but they have booked it for the hospital which is frustrating. May see if I can get it changed.

Ilovemydog This may sound like an odd suggestion but have you tried DD on Goat's milk? Goat's milk is far easier for little people to digest and for children with asthma and echzma (excuse spelling!) it has significantly improved their symptons. Also, for anyone with children prone to colds or runny noses, goat's milk helps rather than hinders the immune system (like cow's milk does) and is not mucas forming. Although my DD has no respiratory problems, since giving her mostly goats milk she rarely suffers with a cold and if she does catch one the symptons are very minor and short lived. Just thought I'd share that with you although I expect you have been down all sorts of avenues already doing everything you can for your DD. Hope she's ok and pleased you're feeling less wiped out now.

Tinwe yes I have period type aches but I think it's just things growing inside and stretching outside! Seem to remember having the same aches and pains with DD so it shouldn't be anything to worry about.

just needed to post. Got my combined nuchal results. The background risk for Downs is 1 in 155 based on my age. With the nuchal measurement (which was an excellent 1.8mm) and the bloods though the risk has increased to 1 in 100. The other results for Edwards and Patau were v v low risk.

Have to decide whether to go for diagnostic test or not now. My first reaction is not on the basis that 1 in 100 means 99% chance everything is ok and I'd hate to risk a mc unnecessarily. DH is slightly more in favour of an amnio. We're going to discuss tonight and I'm going to contact ARC as well.

Gingerwench- having never been in your position and not knowing what we're going to do either, i'm not sure i'm the best person to help. I suppose it comes down weighing up the potential stress of not knowing for the next few months against the small risk of knowing an unwanted result... whether you could put it to the back of your mind if you don't have it done?

Thanks for words of wisdom re: tummy pains. They grew much, much worse today though and got really crampy and painful despite paracetamols, so decided to leave work sick and go to hospital in case. In panic mode, on route, I had to stop on the hard shoulder to be sick lots and pain immediately eased so i'm assuming I now have a tummy bug (as well as stretchy pains). Sorry for TMI but oh, the relief! I was so worried and would've been really embarrassed turning up at hosp with an 'emergency' tummy bug. 's just so difficult cos I don't know my own body anymore- different feelings everyday which I can't use my usual internal systems to check on

Oh and on the topic of whether to find out a boy or girl- we are planning to. I was always adamant that it should be a surprise but DP wants it and I suppose I agree with him... Ever since we first met I told him I could 'see' him having a blonde baby girl, he dismissed it as he didn't want kids then but I was so sure and stuck with it over the years! Don't know why, as I've never felt able to make predictions like that before or since, I just KNEW with him. Anyway, I'd not really thought about that until he reminded me that he's expecting a blonde girl so we'd better check so to be prepared if it's a boy. If it is a boy he'll panic then cos he'll know he's having at least another one

Thanks all

I had a useful chat with the woman at ARC - recommend them to anyone else needing to talk through antenatal test results.

One useful suggestion she had was to ask to be referred for an amnio but then see how I feel as the date approaches as to whether I would go ahead or not. I'm confident DH and I will work things out - we are not diametrically opposed just wavering on different sides of the fence. Luckily we had talked a bit about it beforehand but we hadn't got as far as determining how "high risk" the result would have to be to want an amnio. My gut feel is that I would go ahead with an amnio for a 1 in 10 chance or greater but 1 in 100... well that's 99% chance that Downs is not an issue.

I don't feel anxious but I am slightly emotional.

By the way I have tried to word this sensitively and sorry if anyone takes issue with any words. Don't mean to offend those with DS children or other friends/relatives.

Ginger that's a very tricky decision and not one that I've had to make. I've been trying to put myself in your position and think what I would do - obviously this is a completely personal reaction, but I think that my instinct is that 1 in 100, although obviously not what you'd hope for as a result, is still 99% likely to be ok and that's actually pretty good odds. For me, I don't think I could take the risk of MC faced with those odds (as you say, 1 in 10 is a different story), because even if it's a small risk, I think I'd feel worse about having to deal with a MC if it happened (which I'd inevitably blame myself for) than dealing with the 1% risk of DS. But as I said, that's just my (hypothetical) reaction. As Tinwe rightly pointed out, it's also a question of whether you can put it to the back of your mind for the next few months. It sounds like sensible advice to book yourself in for the tests while you think about it, to at least reserve your position though...

Rollercoasteryears I am glad its not put me thinking that! I have always thought of having a son and not sure why its the way I have been thinking of that but I always have so yes I think it would take some time for me to get used to the idea of having a daughter; I would still be delighted with a daughter but would like to mentally prepare.

perpetuallypregnant I have not heard of that but I am concerned that I have got a very high BMI and they have not mentioned it yet and I have got veins in my legs coming up darker so I think I will have to mention them when I see my midwife next. Not if they want to put me on that tho!!

ginger
I had a CVS after a dodgy nuchal last time - my bloods were fine but because I'm an old bird the slightly increased nuchal rang alarm bells.

Having the CVS was incredibly reassuring - the consultant who did it was amazing.

Your odds are not really that high so I am sure the test will bring you nothing but good news. It will put your mind at rest and you also get the chance to find out the sex

Me again as still reading there was a whole other page!

HotButteredToast: You poor thing! My DH used to get that until he had his toncils out and was really had.

ElfOnTheTopShelf: I got to have that as well with diabeties in the family but didnt realise thats what they want to do to do me! I really should ask more questions.

gingerwench: 99% chance everything is ok is the way I think I would look at it as well and not sure what the decision I would make. My great Uncle has DS and when me and DH had the conversation about 'what if' so we didnt feel time pressure when we do have our results back. It soon become obvious that we had very different opinions on what we would do even with a 1 in 5 result but did settle on that we would need alot more information so I am glad they where helpful.

I went for a Nandos last night and regret it! I dont think spicey food is for me anymore as instant upset tummy with mega heartburm so DH went to the 24hr Tesco to ge Rennies and I was awake all night back and forwards to the toilet so I have been sticking to corn flakes today!

hi ginger sorry to hear about the decision your faced with. my sister has a ds child, she was only 26 when she had her and there is no family history so it came as a very big surprise. the consultant told her it was just one of those things and there was no explanation as too why her child has ds given her age etc. she is now pregnant again and has had a few blood and scans taken to assess the risk of this child having ds, she too was offered the amnio test and was very unsure what to do as she didnt want to risk mc but also felt like she would like the reassurance of knowing the reault. in the end up she decided not to go for it and when she informed her consultant he told her he was glad she had come to that decision as the risk of her mcarrying due to having the test would have been much greater then the chance of her having another child with ds.

I know everybody is different but you have to think of how much it will dwell on you throughout your pregnancy. personally id be looking at the 99% chance everything is ok, its up to you though, hopefully when you do decide you can put your mind at rest knowing you've made the right decision for you. take care

gingerwench sorry to hear your test results are making you worry. One of my friends had a downs baby and there was also a problem with the heart. Because they knew all this well in advance she got extra special care and they had an operation scheduled for his heart for a few days after he was born. Really cute baby. So even though she still wanted to keep the baby, having all the info early meant she could get the best care for him

hotbutteredtoast those bras at John Lewis were so frumpy - I feel like such a grandma wearing them. I'm going to keep looking for some nicer ones so I don't feel so old! If anyone sees some cool ones please let me know

Apparently my pains are just ligament pains but god, do they hurt - shows how rubbish I am with pain. I'm getting referred to physio which is good