10/10 Babies - Come out, come out wherever you are!!!

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, come on little babies, you know you want to come out and play!!!

Look we even have toys all ready and set up for you all!!

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Advice plz! Rubbish night last night. Awake til 330. Then slept til 630, back off again about 7ish and wake again about 940. Back to sleep about 1pm and still asleep now.

Question : do I wake him? he should have eaten a couple of hours ago and is obv catching up on last night (shame I haven't).

What to do!?

I'll post later when my darling toddler is in bed but before I forget: dd is a month today!!! Where did that time go?!!

Chat later xxx

Silver I would wake

Sorry bit blunt, was feeding! Dd3 with dd1 now( daily cuddle)

Silver- wake , nappy ,bath feed over next couple of hours to keep him awake a little before bed

A bit late now I expect but I would have woken him too Silver. Easiest way to wake them up is to take off whatever is covering their feet.

hi all

slightly confused by which thread is being used so i'll write on all of them

well lots to report after 3 weeks with no internet...

we ended up moving house on the 17th when i was 38+1 and went into labour that night. James Christopher arrived at 11:44 weighing in at 7lb 4oz. things all went slightly fast and i was fully dilated when we arrived at hospital but luckily everything was fine.

it's been a crazy few weeks but things are calming down now
xx

Congratulations *Cheeky8 lovely names.

Seashells If snottiness is affecting feeding, you could get some saline nose drops - they really helped when ds1 was really snotty.

Just running in to say hello - tyhings manic here an ds2 hardly sleeping...

Thanks all. We did wake. Took his covers off. Since then we have had two dirty nappies and a feed on one boob and now the other but he keeps falling asleep so I am tickling his feet.

I don't have much luck winding him. Sometimes he burps sometimes not. I never know when to quit. Advice??

Motherhood is massive learning curve for me!!

Wind on his left side. Tap to break up the bubbles then stroke firmly upwards to help it out.

Signs that they have wind is that funny squeaky breathing they do, bluey/pale under there lips/nose/eyes. Also when you tap on their tummy you can hear it and if there is no wind their tummy will be very soft.

If he doesn't seem bothered by wind I'd leave him to get it up on his own, not many countries besides the UK and US actually wind babies at all.

Hello

Dilly well done on Tobys gain. DD today was nearly therem just 40g off hers. However I dom't feel much like celebrating. She's six weeks old and having been born nearly on the 75th centile she's between 0.4 and 2nd. I'm strugling on with bfing and it seems my latch is going west on the right boob again - I thouthg I had thrush because of the pain but the doctor and HV said no. I'm really quite depressed with it all. I struggle to wake her to feed her, it takes too long according to the regime we're on, then she won't settle unless I keep her on me and not always then, and is looking for more food after every feed just about. I "express" after each feed - few mls or nothing unless its been a bad feed in which case it might be up to 10-15 - the volume is not going up. It's constantly on my mind now that if she was given more formula, or just totally ff, her weight would be fine and she would be happier. I'm so conscious that this could lead to affecting her brain development because of the lack of calories she's getting. It's also having a big impact on my ds because I spend such a long time doing all the stuff I have to do with her. People at the bf support say oh once she's bigger (by feeding her formula ) she will have more strength to suck properly and you'll make more milk - I think how long is it going to take? If our latch is wrong that's still not going to be the case. How big does she have to get for that to happen? I see these other babies there and can't imagine her growing tht much just with me feeding her. The HV said today she didn't think I'd be able to just bf her ever, and to be honest I don't think so either. I can't wake up at night as often as I#m supposed to be because I don't get the chance to rest in the day. I was hoping to today but DP is away with work, and my mum is here, but I had to go with her to nursery this morning because she was confused and thought he was going to creche which she doesn't feel confident of getting to herself in the car. Then this afternoon I had to go with her to the creche. Them the hv arrived but had to cime back cos dd was asleep.. my the time she had gone I was well awake and finished online food order si we have something to eat tomorrowm then collected ds.... put tea on. Ate. Long session with dd trying to feed. Here i am not putting her down after. Soory for rambling moan.

Oh dear Floozie. you are having a really tough time at the moment. I am there with you, I had this with my DS when he was born early. It is so hard with them being so tiny they just can't suck well enough can they.
I suspect that the stress that you are under is not helping with the amount of milk you are producing. Its a vicious circle isnt it.
Not sure what part of Cardiff area you are in but the bf support group I went to last week was really good - it was on Crwys Rd if that is any good for you.
Breast feeding is so much harder too with the second baby i am finding. I feel so guilty all the time that am not spending any time with DS but I just have to rationalise that it won't be this way for long.

Sorry, not too much help for you but just to let you know that I am with you and totally sypathise, sending hugs if thats allowed!

Thanks x that is a great help. Will leave him to it unless he gets stressed about it.

Congrats monkey!

flooze it's not your fault. Don't blame yourself. It's one of those things and with such a weeny babe it's not uncommon. Find a good support group and see what they suggest. You'll get there. But you gotta look after yourself mentally too. Keep posting and we'll keep supporting.

Dontstopmenow - oh my goodness, we were in the same room!!!! I was there most of the day so we must have crossed paths surely. I'm there again tomorrow so
look out for me - the knackered looking one with the small baby! I'm struggling to remember what your lo is called, will have to fo and look it up now so I can check out toomorrow if you are there

floozie no help on the feeding but whoever said stress won't help was right. I'll send some ((())) your way anyway.Lol @ you & don't stop being in the same room & not knowing

Xav I was crap at winding my big 2 if that's any consolation. Dd3 just burps when I sit her up so don't have to make any effort.she must just be better at it. Baby massage yesterday said clockwise circles on tummy though so you could try that

My older two were bottle fed and were SO sicky that if you didn't get every bit of wind up, I'd lose the entire feed, so I became somewhat of a pro! Finn is excellent on the boob. I wish I'd felt more supported to bf the others.

Silver My friend who is a nurse taught me to sit DS up and supporting him move his upper body in a figure of eight. This actually winds DS quite well. Apparently the nurses use them on the premmies in the hospital where my friend works.

Floozie I'm sorry you're going through a tough time. I hope that you find the support you need soon.

Hi Ladies and bubs
Have been without internet access for a few days here, so missed some of your news. Great to catch up with what has been happening. I think I am the only Oct due that still hasnt had her baby!!! Was due on the 30th but wont get an induction date until tomorrows midwife appointment. Have had a few mild crampy pains on and off for last few days, but nothing else. I have polyhramnios (excess fluid) and was told that I would absolutely not go overdue (the consultant even wrote to my GP saying that I would prob not go to full term!!) ha ha... here I still am at 40+10!!!

floozie so sorry, love, I was in such a state when trying to get Toby's weight up but look it did happen just on breast milk. It's just that little babies have further to go, bless them . You are doing right to bf, but listen - if IF you decide to give a bit of formula maybe find one you feel ok about (non-dairy, goat's milk whatever) and remember it's not forever. On the night before Tobes was weighed we were so desperate (well, I was) that we actually made up a formula feed, just didn't use it. It's always a back up and there's no shame in it. Re calories & brains - breast milk is designed to grow human brains, that's part of why it's so important, to do with essential fatty acids. Hang on in there, get to a good support group, maybe phone La Leche League? I found them great. Also Tobes is on the bottom centiles too so your LO has company

sorry for garbled post - tired & one handed (and I struggle w nights too and have no excuse!)

lots of hugs and support from me!

kel good luck w mw tomnorrow!

I will also try those other techniques so thank you.

Fellow c section victims can I ask how long til your wound healed?

My stitches were taken out on Saturday and was told all was healing well. However today I stupidly lifted a bag of clean washing to put away and now I am in agony. I also looked at the wound and it looks yukky on one side. Have called mw but no surprise answer phone.

Keep an eye on the open bit as it can get infected. Mine was sealed by stitches coming out on day 5. But last time took ages & occasionally wept up to a year later. Smell can be a guide & let air get to it.
Oh & REST! My Mw said if it was a normal op you would do nothing for 6 weeks & poss up to 3 m so take advantage

Oh just been for nursing bra fit. Was 36c pre preg & now 38 F dread to think what I was in the Jordan days!!!

Ignore that asterisk please! I hit send before I meant to!

Floozie, I have no BF advice really as I am a firsttimer, except to say seek further professional advice and support. Am stunned they are pushing for you to resort to formula. Best of luck.

kel, come on, join the club! :)

No news here really. DS is one month today though. The time has flown so so fast, I can't believe it's a month already. Loved what xav said in response to Hermya about loving all the ages, but I just think it's going too fast still!

floozie I hope you are ok today. I want to tell you about breastfeeding and my first baby. I was determined to feed her myself and although it was difficult I got off to a fairly good start. After a couple of weeks though she had awful colic and wasn't feeding so well at all. She began to lose weight and everyone was concerned. In the end I resorted to formula feeling a failure. I know now that she had a severe tongue tie and it wouldn't have mattered what I had done, unless the tie was snipped she wasn't able to feed from me. I know this is going to be unpopular here but I am going to say it anyway. It is ok to feed your baby formula. Although your reasons are different to mine, sometimes for whatever reason that is beyond your control it is very hard to successfully breastfeed. Your baby has been fed by you for weeks which will have really boosted her immune system. I am not saying that you should ff, just that it is ok to decide to if you think it is best for your baby and you. I hope you aren't offended and that I don't get slated for this post - when I was in your position I needed someone to say that it was ok and that it wasn't my fault, which I hope is what I have for you. I am thinking of you, Sam x

Hey Floozie,
Hope you got on okay today at the breast feeding support group. I didn't go today as was being driven to distraction by my DS.
I was actually wondering - when I was at the group last week, I thought I kind of recognised someone there with a tiny baby - I wonder, I know from your other posts that your DS was born early, was it January 2007 time? Only wondering cos I figured out (3 days later) that I recognised the person from the scbu when my DS was in. Was just wondering if that was you - what a strange world if it is!!

Sorry about this post everyone else, fairly dull for the rest of you!

Have been trying to catch up on the last 4 weeks worth of news since I was last on here. I had forgotten how tiring this baby business is! My biggest problem at the moment is a baby who needs to feed every 2 hours and I have no where comfy to sit so my back is in agony. Ho hum!