The PESH Deli - No ESH left behind

[PerfectDromedary]

I have opened the virtual gin, found the Desperate Romantics and am about to start playing I've Never. Who's with me?

drom i fancy that kari-me sling too, would like to be able to pop a boob out and feed on the sly. I am shelving the pram debate until closer to the time, 6 weeks is a wee bit early to be thinking about it I spose.

cass fingers crossed for blood test tomorrow.

lozzer perhaps if we ever do meet the universe will implode or there will be 2nd big bang :o

switty I hope you are staying nice and chilled out.

scorps geriatric differs unite!

Sorry this is all a bit one liner, have had a horrible day, nearly hurled in most boring meeting ever this morning which would have been in front of all the managers in the business. Then spent all day in more meetings trying to be enthusiastic. Have to say that at least concentrating on something is the only thing that stops the nausia. lozzer i am going to look for some of those sickness bands but I am guessing would be a bit of a give away if I started accessorising like somat out of Star light express.

oh gin loads of luck re HB chat, stick to your guns if possible.

Rocket, are you suggesting that at 7 wks I shouldn't have bought everything already?

Heheh, not really - I just have one babygrow that I bought when gripped with baybee need fever last summer 'Tis navy and white striped with a purple star motif, so v unisex.

I'll tell you what, ladies, that Elle McPherson 'Got milk?' advert that keeps popping up on the right can fuck the fucky fuck off. Apart from the fact that it's hilariously suggestive, the last thing we need on a site with a high rate of pregnant women is someone so slender and perfect in a bikini.

I want to see Jo Brand with pastry all over her chops belching, 'Got pie?'. That'd be more like it!

I'll take the pie. I resemble a pie eating model at the mo.

muse when I was pg with mooch I didn't feel anything until a few days (can't remember exactly) after the 20 week scan. Understand missing it once you've felt it though. It starts to become more regular (and obvious) soon... Before you know it you'll see a foot threatening to burst out just below your belly button :)

@ 'got pie'!

rocket sorry you feel lousy...

We just had one of those conversations where it becomes clear that we are both stressed about almost every single thing in our lives and one or both of us may shortly implode. Which is, as drom would say, all the funs.

Night all, I'm knackered and have to Be Strong tomorrow...

gin good luck with your consultant tomorrow. I'm sure he or she won't rule anything out just yet... I've got my 36 week chat tomorrow pm when they hopefully give me the green light. Unless MW is still worried about mini moo's size and is convinced I am actually giving birth to a 7 year old child.

silver I hear you on the bending down. Have cleared out 3 cupboards today and it nearly bloody killed me. Also cooked giant chicken stew. Knackered. Hospital bag still not packed.

okie I bought most of the vag pads in Wandsworth :) I swear to god I feel like I'm preparing for armegeddon, the amount of buying, cooking, cleaning and washing I am doing.

I don't really understand the bugaboos make you smug thing people seem to have in general. Maybe it's my hormones, but seems a bit unnecessary. Surely people buy what they think will suit them, last the distance quality wise and is in their particular budget? I know they are pretty pricey, but I wanted a new one so that repairs would hopefully not be necessary and also I can flog it for a decent price in a few years... made sense to me, and doesn't match my handbag!!

GOOD LUCK for tomorrow Gin! And pass 'Streme some lucky, lovin' vibes from me :)

Have also heard the rather brilliant "The cat will sit on the baybee's chest and suck the breath out of its lungs"! I cannot even begin to comprehend the physics of that...

Jailbait's gran got us a cat net to go over the pram/moses basket. We do not have a cat. However, it's fucking marvellous to put over the pram - people can't see the baybee therefore complete strangers don't stop you in the street to talk to you (wankers) - and it also made a very effective fly net over the pram at the stables.

honey I can't believe you're 36 weeks! You're in definite laying territory now.

I thought Stokke was the most smug of all the prams - or have the North London Meeja set done a full circle and are now back at the Bugaboo? If yes, where does that leave all the poor Stokke-pushers?

AP am liking the "mozzie" net for the stables. Genius.

Honey Absolutely didn't mean that the possession of a bugaboo automatically makes you smug! Just surrounded by yummy mummies in Richmond and can't even struggle into Starbucks most days and the correlation between that and Bugaboos is firmly established in my mind so I don't want one. Also remember excruciating evening in pub about 5 years ago with woman I really didn't like talking me through all the bugaboo colour combination choices - with a swatch! I just wanted a gin...

Good luck for consultant appointment, ginlet. And

Honey Absolutely didn't mean that the possession of a bugaboo automatically makes you smug! Just surrounded by yummy mummies in Richmond and can't even struggle into Starbucks most days and the correlation between that and Bugaboos is firmly established in my mind so I don't want one. Also remember excruciating evening in pub about 5 years ago with woman I really didn't like talking me through all the bugaboo colour combination choices - with a swatch! I just wanted a gin...

Good luck for consultant appointment, ginlet.

IPhone plus morning = fat-fingered twattery.

Our bugaboo is soooo disgustingly grubby that it would destroy any 'yummy mummy' connotations for life. As would one glance at me.

Btw regarding the 'backwards facing' thing - we actually carried on doing that till we stopped using the thing with mooch. Was nicer than having it the other way, as we could have proper chats. There is a danger inherent here though.... We now have the most talkative child on the planet :)

okie hope it goes well with mw, and mini okie is the right size of mini! For me hb is already 'ruled out' as they are very anti anything other than consultant-led, very monitored birth for vbacs. So I know that I am going to be advised against a hbac, just don't know how strongly as that depends on the consultant/registrar. We'll see.

I have been awake for most of the night. Ggggrrrrr.

Jeebus, sorry, MOO not okie!!!!!!

Did I mention that I haven't had any sleep? Apols for crap brain.

Drom hours of chat about Bugaboo colours? Dear god. I think I would be put off by that as well.

moo I have been looking at secondhand Bugaboos but I suspect MrM will want to go new for the same reasons as you. And as we do plan more kids then it's probably worth it.

drom touchy and hormonal, moi???? don't worry I won't take offence, but if you do it again I'll have to run you over with my giant pram!!! :O You're so right though, the buggy to normal person ratio on the streets of SW London is fucking ridiculous. They should actually have a buggy lane I reckon.

Anyway as alpine pointed out, the real wankers roll with the stokke varieties. Now they DO look properly smug and stupid.

Muser I didn't even bother looking through the hues of beige/hot pink etc - we just got black! Poor thing, but I thought practical, non gender specific (and also matches handbag :)). Don't worry rest of moo house will be decked out in red plastic soon enough...

Alpine don't say I am in laying territory yet!!! I have too much to do!!!!

How do you know baby has started to engage? I've been getting some slight twingey downward feelings on my cervix, but last night as I waddled to the loo I could feel a bit of pressure on my coccyx oddly. Gone now, and no idea if this means anything. Anyway I guess I can ask later...

People keep telling me about babies born 1 or 2 months early - 3 people yesterday!!! Am getting The Fear. Also off to meet my neighbours new little boy baybee.... can't wait for a cuddle.

Apparently preggos now allowed a couple of drinks... PHEW, maybe that will shut the likes of kiki84 up now.

gin I meant to say (having obviously no particular knowledge on this subject) but I hope you can get the support you need from the consultant as you say. I'm sure it IS possible after CS, but obviously not a popular option for doctors to endorse. It must be hard when you and your OH know what's ahead and the medical establishment is trying to convince you otherwise. I am probably only considering doing the HB thing because I am naively cluesless about what's in store for me!!! Good luck again!

ginpetal I'm not surprised you're stressed. Let us know how it goes. Am sure you will kick arse.

I create my own SW London lane with my buggy

drom do you work in Richmond? In theory, we could meet for lunch...

Good luck Gin, I hope you manage to bring the consultant round to your way of thinking. After all, they keep banging on about how it is every woman's right to give birth wherever she wants to (while closing all the midwife-led units in our area, the bastards).

I have midwife appt today and I'm going to push again for HB and see what her reaction is this time. She went from mad keen to 'you might not be allowed' when she realised the due date. Grr.

Yay for sense on the 'drinking rules for preggos'! Apparently govt is sticking to the 'safer not to drink' line though.

Good news PESHies!!

Dept of Ostrich Heads and Women Haters

I threw up again this morning. The magic pills appear to be losing their power. Can I just weep over in the corner for a bit?

BUT in more exciting news, we are heading Oop North on Saturday to see tiny nephew. I thought we maybe wouldn't be allowed by the hospital, or the thought of visitors would be too much for the parents. But they said to come, we'd be more than welcome, come admire baby.

So we are whizzing up and back on Saturday, for a flying visit. TINYBABY!

Morning PESHlets.

Am back from surgery with plasters all over both arms as apparently my veins thought it was a good morning for a game of hide and seek. Results back 'in a few days'...

Gin the message I generally got was that the NHS wouldn't agree to a HBAC but most IMs would be happy to take one on. I know that probably isn't what you want to hear but I'm saying it rather in a "don't be down hearted; all is not lost" type way in case they are unhelpful this morning.

I really REALLY want the Jo Brand "got pie?" advert to be true

Sorry. Just to clarify, GP surgery. I haven't had surgery. Sigh........

How many pills you taking Muse ? Maybe go back up to 3 if you haven't already...