December 2010, where we waft about in mat gear eating icecream

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Yo December 2010 ladies, here we go - the mid-point of our pregnancies...and beyond!

oh bugger MrsSnaplegs there goes my sofa slumping! Should I be getting down on hands and knees then?
hi there heidipi and rockinmum

MrsChris that sounds rubbish. I think GPs think they know a lot more than they really do, they have tobe a bit of jack of all trades and so end up saying some really stupid and often downright untrue things.
I would still go too, did she give you a letter?

welcome to the newbies (again) - it's busy on here today!

notso I've probably already said on one of our threads what I think I'm having but I think I'll keep it a secret for now

mrschris if you're worried, go back and ask to see another GP (if your practice has more than one). I expect it was her inexperience of pg women that made her so vociferous in her opinion.

Chloesbaby and CherylAT I am also white, with short hair which is brown with highlights in. I suspect I will also be wearing jeans and a t shirt with probably a turquoise coat. I will also have a red pull along suitcase as going home for a week (woohoo can you tell I'm excited) Oh and I'm pregnant by the way so I have a big belly Popeyes is outside at the top of the ferry ramp by the way - would suggest meeting there and then decide on the weather if we want to stay there or go inside somewhere.

Heidipi I can't be bothered to work either, written my handover for my week off as my boss has just been away for 2 weeks, clearing my desk of all the little jobs and trying to work out if I can take tomorrow as leave as well so I don't have to get up too early

MrsChris It sounds as if your GP handled that really badly, she does have an obligation to make you aware of the risks because if she didn't and something happened she would be to blame partially for not having advised you, I do however think she did it the wrong way. You sound like an intelligent woman who can make decisions like the rest of us. I think you will probably get more value from the rest on the holiday which will be better for you than staying at home. We all take risks in pregnancy I do the shellfish, runny eggs, peanuts thing - I also have soft cheese and the odd glass of wine! Where are you going to anywhere nice? Sorry that was a stupid question, you wouldn't book somewhere horrible would you

cholesbaby I agree about not ready to meet loads of people from P'mouth yet! Dustycups or whatever her name is has been trying to actively recruit so I thought I would give it a bump here. Maybe in a while we can all go together and hold hands!!

MrsChris - I'd complain. That's against NHS advice for one thing! Enjoy the holiday! We're off in 3 weeks as well...I'd better get a note from my GP too, just in case.

MrsChris - Thats GP sounds WAY over the top... If she's as young as she looks perhaps she just massively over-keen. Agree its just scaremongering advice. I've flown loads in my pregnancies and over the 28 week limit (with GP letter) so as you say - ignore it, relax on the flight and have a great time! .

Welcome newcomers!! Great to still be getting new faces on here .

MrsS - Love the present idea, the reviews made me chuckle .

Reshape - I have 2 boys (soon to be 3!) and I can relate to what you're saying. I really wanted a boy for my first, not really sure why now, but it seemed like a good idea at the time . When I was told my second son was a DS I did have an odd feeling about never having a daughter (we were stopping at 2 at that point). When I thought about it it wasn't that I didn't want another son, just I wanted the experience of having a daughter as well (greedy I know ). BUT, of course you'll adore your DS2 as much as your DS1 and once he's here it wouldn't feel right to have it any other way. I love having 2 boys so much and enjoy the interaction bewteen them. My eldest is quite a caring boy and looks after his little brother so much and they just seem to 'get' each other if you know what I mean. I'm hoping their closeness carries on through the rest of the lives. In fact I enjoy it so much that I had a slight preference for another boy this time round. Its strange when talking about the gender combination that each person has as it can sometimes come across in a way "what I've got is better than what you've got", and I dont mean that at all - guesss I'm just saying that I think having all boys is equally as rewarding as having a mix or all girls - each will have their pluses and minuses.... I know I've waffled on a bit but I guess its something thats close to my heart as I can't tell you the amount of peoople who say "Ah, 2 boys, you'll be wanting a girl then".

Right-o, better get on with work...

Hi all and welcome newbies

MrsS love the gift idea for C&G- def brought a smile to my face!

Strix count me in for a dinner meet up.

Just a quick query- has anyone else been getting a burning pain in their tummy? I have it above my ribs slightly to my right hand side- it feels like I'm being jabbed with a hot poker- and it gets a bit itchy. Nothing to see on my skin but it's very uncomfortable. It also hurts when I touch it (like it's bruised). Have had it for 3 days now and no sign of it abating. Anyone else had anything similar or know what it might be?

Better get back to work.....
catch you later

I know what you mean Chooster. The subject of gender came up at my scan. The sonographer asked what we already had (a DD) and promtly said, "so you're hoping for a boy then?" It's funny how people make assumptions.

Thanks everyone for your kind words. Am v hormonal at the moment and don't really trust my own judgment, so thanks for confirming that the stupid GP was talking out of her arse

heidipi where do you buy the magic socks from? And thanks for putting my mind at rest about radiation... It's only a 4 hour flight!!!

DF she said the letter will be ready mid next week, so will let you know if it arrives or not! I will definitely complain if it's not.

maxpower I have made sure I'm seeing a different GP at my 25 week appt. All the others are lovely (apart from one who looked at me disparagingly a year ago when I said I was 33 and "thinking" about getting pregnant and made me feel like I'd missed the boat already )

MrsSL we're off to Crete. I'm going to spend a week sitting in the pool reading books. No laptop, no work, no stress!! Glad to hear we're all normal and not pandering to the eating fad crap. Don't you find that having someone tell you not to eat something makes you want to eat it all the more?

japhrimel where are you off to?

Chooster thanks for the kind words. I intend to enjoy it!

Am back in the real world now

Welcome to the newbies. Can't tell you all how great it is to have MN to let it all out!!

Hello everyone,

I'm new here, though I've been reading all your posts for a week or so and enjoying them hugely. I'm due on december 9, adding to the number of the little boys on this thread!

Everything (even the smallest detail) is pretty exciting at the moment, as it's my first pregnancy.

No strong, painful kicks like a few of you have been describing, just lots of wriggling. But I think that's to be expected because i've got an 'anterior high' placenta?

Anyway, thought I should introduce myself as I was beginning to feel like a bit of a stalker reading all your posts and not contributing..!

Hi everyone, sorry I have been MIA for so long, feeling very neglecting/neglectful/whatever the word is :)

Welcome to new people, hope everyone is being nice enough to you :o

C&G Great news about the wedding (am expecting my invite in the post lol) also really good to hear things seem to be getting sorted wrt your kids and their dad... I'm sure karma will be out to get him in some form or another!!!

MrsSnapLegs Love the bike, hope your housing situation gets sorted soon, how did you get on with your letter?

Notso can completely sympathise with the UTI, had one really early in pregnancy that I didn't treat straight away and it was sooooo painful, very jealous of both wedding and spa!!

In fact I'm jealous of anyone getting out of the house atm as the only time I leave is to visit my grandma everyday, which I walk the five minutes to hers, sit for 2 hours, then walk the five minutes back, this is all I ever go out (with today being the only exception in 2 weeks!)

Sorry to those who are having work problems (cannot fathom how you are working when doing an hour of ironing the other day left my back and hips in agony), also sorry to those who are hormonal, I find the whole thing extremely frustrating when I cry over something stupid but can't explain why I'm crying.

Today I am having a completely pregnant-brain-day, had my 25 week midwife appointment so had to take in a urine sample, but dropped the little container down the toilet this morning and lost it, my grandad had to bring me round one of his!! I completely freaked out and thought I had blocked the toilet but it seems to be fine (fingers crossed).

My family is on holiday in Majorca so it has just been me and the dog in the house since last wednesday, my friends don't bother with me anymore so has been kinda lonely...I almost wish I had a job just for the social side.

Midwife appointment was fine, got my HIP form to send off, she said everything was normal and she had a giggle when I told her my worries about my height...I am 4ft11 and I know there is no way that my uterus can grow another 15cm - she said she will keep an eye out and it may be a case of delivering early if the baby is big and causing problems. She said people my height do go full term though and I shouldn't worry till much later on.

Sorry for the neglect will promise to try harder, hope everyone is doing well :)

Wow, I don't look at the thread for a day and I have 3 pages to read

Welcome to Rockinmum & Hettie

Hi again to Heidi I'm also going to be a November birth, probably the first one, but didn't want to leave this thread as everyone was so nice. So I stayed and never even read the November thread.

Aimee hope you're ok, and not feeling lonely, we are always here have you looked into local mother and baby groups or antenatal classes in your area?
I bet there are lots of other mums to be, sat at home, feeling the same as you and they are probably a five minute walk away. The only pregnant people near me are Strix, PJen & EmmaXmas and I've only met them through mumsnet. Not Emma yet, but soon
I was on the bus home from work and bumped into a friend from school (in Cornwall and I'm now in London) who I've not seen since I was 16. She has a 3 month old little boy and lives 3 roads away from me so we've arranged to meet and I'm so happy to have someone close. I'm really hoping that after 7 years in London, I will make some really good mum friends now I'm expecting. I have moved around a lot and have friends around, but London is so big and if you live in SW london and have friends in SE Or NE london it's a trek I won't be doing that often with 2 babies

MrsChris Enjoy your holiday and ask to see another doctor next time. They are they to support and advise, not berate you. I would be tempted to mention it to another doctor.

Notso I'm very jealous about V festival!

Japhrimel Zoe is a lovely name, we are really struggling, I had 2 boys names picked but now I know they are girls I'm stuck

Chooster Shocking about you MIL friend giving her that info! and to second what you were saying to Reshape about having 2 boys or 2 girls. I think people assume parents want one of each, but as a child I think it's much more fun to have a sibling of the same sex.
Actually I saw a programme advertised not sure what channel though about a family swap, parents of 4 boys swapping with parents of 4 girls for a few days. Should be interesting viewing, I'll google it and see what it called and when it's on.

MrS love the gift for C&G

Strix I like both colours but would probably pick red for your pram. I also will vacinate, but am keen to read more into the debate.

Strix, Pjen & Emmaxmas when shall we organise our dinner? I am on holiday from the 28th August until the 6th Sept, shall we do it later that week of the 6th?

Hi to Maxpower, DF & everyone I've missed, hope you are all well.

I ordered my pram yesterday, the i candy peach blossom, it should be delivered in 6 weeks or so. Lots of lovely stuff arrived today from joules, so gorgeous, it's all getting that little bit more real So much more to get though, I'm getting the nesting feeling!

hello everyone, hope you are all well?

I'm wondering if anyone else is suffering from PGP? haven't been on for a while and haven't read back through the thread, so apologies if you've all been discussing it! Anyone have any advice?

I went to the GP this morning and described my symptoms but neglected to mention that I was pregnant as I thought the visible bump and medical notes would make that clear, but she questioned me for about 10 minutes before twigging what was up! She was very reluctant to refer me for physio and didn't give me any advice. I thought I'd been getting off lightly with the side effects of pregnancy until now but I don't fancy pain on walking and sleeping for the rest of the pregnancy!

I've been looking at www.pelvicpartnership.org.uk/ and I am wondering if I should just try and find a private physio. Can anyone recommend one in central or south east London?

Here's the link children swap. I missed the programme but it's interesting reading, maybe they'll repeat it.

Mammoth post before, soory, that must be my record!

MrsChris - we're off to Provence. My in-laws have a house down here - I live it!

likethemapples - I've got SPD and hip issues. Push for the physio referral. Your MW can refer you very easily. Physio and swimming, along with regular massage, is really helping me.

Hi everyone, and hello to people who just joined :)
I've just been on a few days but loving it lots already

Found out that the guy with the annoying comments was asked to leave a family activity centre on two occasions, 1 for wearing a t shirt 'i'm not a gynacologist but i'll take a look' and the other
asyouworkoutwhatthissaysasistareatyourtits or something to that effect. P**ck.

emmaexmas i've had pains think maybe a bit similar to what you were describing, like a little circle of cramp almost there, sort of burning tightness when was trying to sleep. People keep telling me how normal aches and stuff are though, not sure [hmn]

Hmmn just trying to work out how to get DH to stop playing his playstation at the moment and pay me attention ...without sounding like needy/spoiled/horrible wifey!

Wow, welcome to newbies and people checking in - glad you're ok aimee

japhrimel I think the baby doesn't tend to settle into position until later, but having had an OP (back to back) baby last time I am already trying to be mindful of my position and not spend all my time slumped back in office chair and sofa. Figure it can't hurt to get into good habits early! Oh and Zoe is v pretty name.

I'm hainvg some SPD pain too and have referral to physio, although some days it's ok so I feel like a bit of a fraud. I've found yoga helps and have swapped my office chair for a more comfy one.

My widgey pillow came today. It was harder than I was expecting it to be, but it does look like it will be good for supporting the baby for feeds. It is so firm I'm not sure it's going to be any good as a pregnancy support but should be v good for when the baby is trying to sit and keeps keeling over!

I've also got some yoga bricks on order so I can do some of the poses better at home.

Realised there are a few things we had for DD we need to replace, like both our change mats have disintegrated and been using muslins as tea towels so could do with some new ones. Need to make a list.

Well I am officially on leave for the next 11 days - WOOHOO decided to take tomorrow as a leave day so I'm not rushing around to go home and meet up with Chloesbaby and CherylAT

Aimee Glad you are back - agree with the others about finding some groups to join - is there an aquanatal group near you - my midwife runs one and it sounds great. They had a teacher who had her baby 3 weeks ago and she came last week to give a "presentation" on having a baby with her sleepy LO in tow - the MW said if she had access to Powerpoint she would have used it

Hettie welcome to the fun!

DF Yep no more sofa slumping - onto your hands and knees woman (says the lump from her slumped position in bed!)

emmaxmas keep an eye on the itching - that can sometimes be an indicator of something - chat to your midwife if it gets worse.

MrsChris Crete sounds nice I had mushrooms stuffed with stilton at dinner (amongst other things!)

I finally decided to call in the big guns on the housing and spoke to the families federation (NFF) - the dep. head has managed to get an active response out of the housing centre and they are looking at what else is available in the area - now why couldn't they have done that before!! We have decided to get the house and into it and then letter of complaint will go in at a high level and copied to our MP.

ButtonAzure Are you a game widow too? I have warned my DH that once the baby is here he will have less time, or no time, to play his PS and other gadgets.

MrsSnaplegs I have just spent the last hour on my knees cleaning the bedroom have a great time on leave you lucky thing.

Am hoping to start yoga on Sunday (new class starting in Roath for anyone interested) and really need to get swimming too.
Nice to see you back Aimee

Hi again ladies. :)

Aimee good to see you're ok. Sorry you're lonely though. It is difficult when your friends don't have children, so you kind of drift away from them. I second finding baby groups. If you're planning to breastfeed then find your local support group and start going to that as well.

Was going to reply to loads more but I can't remember who posted what
to everyone

Oh strix I could probably get into London. I can get to St Pancras or Charing Cross and waterloo east too I think. I would only be able to do a lunchtime meet though and would probably have to bring DS along as well.

Hi, very very quick message for MrsSnapLegs & Chloessbaby.

DP's parents are possibly down for longer than expected. They are thinking of going home tomorrow eve rather than morning as planned. They're playing it by ear, so I won't know until tomorrow morning what they are doing. Obviously if they are still here, I won't be able to make it tomorrow, if they do go earlier on, then I will! I will email you MrsSL to let you know.

If I do make it, I am short, white, long dark/ginger hair, prob wearing denim skirt & top, I'll be the one waddling! Hopefully see ypu tomorrow.

Hello- just popping in quickly...

Lavitabella and others keen for a meet up in London- I can't do until after 12th Sept sorry as will be away.....

Also, feeling VERY proud of myself- made it to the gym tonight- first time in 2 months and did a really good workout- AND I am still alive after it! Yay for finally having a bit more energy!!

Night all

Wow - lots to catch up on!

chooster - thanks for your kind words about having two children of the same sex. I think I'm over my initial disappointment now, though I know I'll get wistful moments when I think about the daughter that will never be (barring highly irresponsible accidents! ). I think it's better to be honest with myself about feeling this, and it'll pass, rather that pretend. It is a bit of a taboo though, isn't it? Admitting to being a bit disappointed about the gender of your subsequent baby.

Anyhow, I am now come round to the loveliness of having two boys! My DS is a gentle, caring boy too, and loves babies. I really hope he has a lovely close relationship with his little brother. He is very animated when he tells you about his baby brother in mummy's tummy!

My MW checked me over at today's antenatal and BP and urine are fine (I'm fretting a bit about both gestational diabetes, and Pre-E, which I may have had last time - my feet are slightly puffy). She's going to set our minds at rest re. diabetes, and come and stab my thumb with a lancet tomorrow and do a random blood glucose. Can't wait. Baby is kicking at least 3 cm above my navel, which certainly makes sense now I know he's big.

likethemapples - I also have SPD/PGP. I had it a bit last time and it's definitely worse, earlier, this time. I saw a chiropractor last week. It didn't have an effect. I'm going to see a physio (privately - last pregnancy, the waiting list for an NHS physio was about 3/4 months) in a couple of weeks, when she's back from leave. It's horrible - I can't even do a supermarket run without being in a lot of pain and needing a lie-down with paracetomol afterwards.

MrsChrist I loooove Crete! I used to go there for free, in a manner of speaking. (I took parties of elderly tourists round the archaeological sites, stayed at nice hotels and was paid! Sadly, those days are over now I've started reproducing. I couldn't face leaving DS for a week, and anyway, my brain has melted out of my ears, taking all previous knowledge with it.) Whereabouts are you staying? It'll do you loads of good to just relax and enjoy the sun. Ignore silly GP - sounds like she needs a few more years' experience and a sense of due proportion! As far as I know, the increased risk of getting a DVT while pregnant is much the same as if you were on the pill. Do they tell people on the pill not to fly? I'm hoping to get to Portugal in sept, house-move allowing, and am not worried about the flight at all.

Hello all from a hotel room in Stockholm :) travelling for work and reading your updates before falling asleep. :)

lavita, emma and strix, I am away till September 5th and should be okay after that for getting togethers. :)

today a doctor in my team was politely hinting that I have put on too much. He said that all the media saying you should put on 15 to 25 pounds are crap and actually you should put way less than that. I know he is an exclent physician and one of the best but surely this huge belly of mine should weigh something??? The belly is not fat and is hard. I am confused now and feel guilty for the huge dinner I had :(

Hiya folks. Well this week baby has decided to kick lower down. My bump has suddenly grown enormous- after putting the others to bed my DP commented that it came down the stairs ahead of me..and did I need a mu-mu. Cheers love.

Also have major pregnancy brain as I am having to ask DP to repeat everything about 3x before it sinks in and I went to put dog food in the washing machine instead of laundry powder this morning.

I had a midwife appointment and had slighly low blood pressure and some protein in the urine sample- but she didn't reckon I needed any treatment. Have been feeling v hormonal, upset and out of sorts so have decided to go to an antenatal class for emotional support as much as anything else, also got some more iron supplements and vowed to get some more sleep but as you can see from the time of this post that aint happening.

strix I am interested in the vaccination debate too and yet over several years of looking into it, to me there are no clear answers; it seems to come down to personal beliefs. Personally, I would love the NHS to do single vaccines but I suppose it is down to money and if you want choice, as in the rest of life, you have to pay for it.

Currently I am on the verge of booking the swine flu jab as I don't want to get it when heavily pregnant, but I keep dithering.

Wish I had somewhere nice to go on holiday, v jealous of all you jetting off especially if you have no kids yet to look after!

My recalcitrant teenager has been v well behaved all week, i hope the lesson has sunk in. As for my daughter I got her a treat and a "period pack" just in case though the mood swings could be a lot of other stuff. We have already talked about it all, but I was hoping we'd have a couple more years before it actually happened! Both of us having mood swings- oh joy.

I luckily don't have SPD or positional problems with my babies usually but I find I just cannot sit on a normal chair or sofa at all now- I have to be perched on the end of a straight backed dining chair and will no doubt progress to a birthing ball as I get bigger. Mind you, I will not be getting down on all fours either- I get bad enough heartburn trying to tie my shoelaces!

PJen - gaa, ignore that doctor! How much you should put on is dependent on how much your BMI was pre-pregnancy (the guideline weight gain is only less than what he said if your BMI was high) and I also think it's very very dubious that they don't take into account boob growing when looking at weight. My boobs have gone from a C cup to a FF cup and as I haven't put on weight other than on my bump & boobs, that is hormones not me eating too much. They're fricking heavy now so I'm not bothering to weigh myself, just going on whether I gain weight elsewhere. Also, bump size isn't a good indicator of weight gain - my bump changes shape and size on a daily basis depending on where baby is lying!

I think I've pulled a muscle - again! It feels like a stitch in the top left of my bump and I thought it was baby sticking a foot or hand into my diaphragm, but nothing will ease it and it hurts to touch. Last night was not a comfy night as it meant I couldn't lie on my left and couldn't breathe in deeply!

frankenfanny - tx for reminding me about flu jabs. I must ask my GP when I see him for an antenatal appointment next week. I has suspected swine flu last year and it was bad enough getting a short bout when not pregnant!

ReshapeWhileDamp - have you asked about NHS physio? In my area, pregnant women are seen as a priority - it took 2 weeks to get an appointment.