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shabbapinkfrog · 12/01/2010 10:53

The most supportive, loving, loyal thread on Mumsnet - I wouldn't know what to do without all of you x

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Sunflowersintherain · 05/03/2010 23:25

Hello again and thank you for all your messages - sorry I haven't been able to post before now. The horrible storm has eased a bit, and now I feel slightly ashamed to have been so vocal on here "at my stage," when there are others here have lost their precious babies so much more recently.

peterpansmum - I hope Gregor's birthday was OK. Sometimes it's just such a relief when it's over. I think it's amazing that you're starting to fundraise already. I'm sure he'd be so proud of you.

triplets - Thank you for telling me about Matthew, and I'm sorry things are a bit tough with your husband right now. I think know what you mean though about being grateful for so many things. I feel lucky for all I've had and got too, in spite of losing my daughter. It's hard to explain that to others though isn't it, without sounding like a delusional nutcase?!

lottiejenkins - that must have been a terrible decision to have to make with your little Jack. We too had to agree to allow the doctors to stop trying to save my daughter's life when the virus caused multiple cardiac arrests. I relive the words that were used over and over.

ziggymama - that's such a beautiful symbol, the sunflower seeds for your son. I love the promise of life, sunshine and a fabulous head of yellow petals. I'm sorry you had that experience with the compassionate friends website. I must have found it at the same time as you because it had become closed then. Such a shame. I did go through the process of registering, but then lost my password, etc, and really it was all too much effort in grief. I rang (or maybe it was my sister?) for local support and a brilliant elderly couple came to see me and through them I met a mother who was four years further down the line from me - naively I thought that made her pretty sorted.. but we have become good friends and support each other now. I did go to a few local meetings but my experiences weren't always positive Are there local meetings in your area? They can be really helplful. If you ring the head office or the helpline number they would be able to tell you if you haven't already tried this.

iliketomoveitmoveit - it took me a long time to get to the stage when I thought I was ready to do the helpline and as Wednesday shows, perhaps I never will be. Thanks to shabba's and crumpette's comments I'm now re-thinking my attitude to keeping going. Before I thought to stop would be admitting failure, but now I feel that any time I give listening to people who need it is a good thing - but if I can only manage a year, or 18 months or two years before letting someone else take my place, that's ok. I can always do it again at a later stage. At the moment I'm so grateful that I'm able to do it, that by talking to someone like me who understands at least some of what they feel so they can put the phone down and have a slightly better day makes me feel like J is proud of me. Thank you both for what you said.

oh crumpette though, it is so recent that you lost your daughter, I'm so sorry. How old was she? How are you feeling as the first anniversary approaches? I agree with you about the word 'virus.' I wrote a diary in the first year we lost J and I fantasised in it that the virus had a name, wore a suit and I knew his address. I hated him so much for taking my daughter. For what?

Sorry - very long post...

shabbapinkfrog · 06/03/2010 07:34

Morning girls xx

Sunflowers never, ever apologise for having a rant or being vocal....thats why we all come 'here', to this thread x

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Sunflowersintherain · 06/03/2010 08:19

Alright, thank you shabba! x

I'm getting ready to go and do some running - meeting up with some good friends tonight down in Salisbury, then a bit of a (very slow) race tomorrow. Hope everyone is ok.

hazygirl · 06/03/2010 10:28

morning girls, ppm thats an amazing amount well done gregor will be proud .

shelleylou · 06/03/2010 14:13

hello, hope your all well. Im trying to motivate myself for gettin somehousework done and getting a shower ready for work and my night out tonight. Not as excited about it as i should be last night outs have been on specific dates to do with matt or for him. I supose the upside is the people im out with probably wont want to go into the pub matt always drank in and i used to go in to see him. Went in there in december and had to tell the barman he was dead after he asked bout him and recognised i was his sister. That made me smile as i couldnt see the resembelance(sp) as much as when we were younger. I just kept looking in there for him expecting him to be by the pool table to have a game with him. .. Sorry just needed to get that out a bit as dont want to bring my work mates down later

shabbapinkfrog · 07/03/2010 08:28

Morning girls xx

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peterpansmum · 07/03/2010 10:01

Morning everyone xx Another shitty sunday

How's everyone else today?

crumpette · 07/03/2010 14:08

sunflowers, she was 14 months.. but a very old 14 months to me, if that makes sense, she started talking when she was very young and used to be my best little friend, and before she got ill (age 11mths) she would do things like, if I was feeling sad she would recognise it and pull a cloth up over her face and back down again and peer at me cheekily until I smiled. She always did everything she could to make me smile. It should have been the other way around..!

PPM you have raised so much already, Gregor will be so very proud of you. I contacted the child liver disease bunch but in the end I am ashamed to say I didn't arrange to do anything for big yellow friday.. it was harder than I thought to approach someone in my firm to take over while I am on maternity leave so I didn't do it [useless blob that I am]

right, off to eat cookies

shabbapinkfrog · 07/03/2010 22:51

Everybodys quiet today! We have had wall to wall blue skies and sunshine today - but its been freezing.....just been reading my dear friends facebook page (Vicky's mum) poor sod goes back to work tomorrow, over the week-end she has cleared her DD's flat and given the keys back to the council......she sounds so full of doubt and so sad.... what a strange world we live in. I proper 'lost the plot' last night at my friends house. The scenario is that one of my friends miscarried a few years ago....today would have been her childs 5th birthday - her sister started in labour last night and will probably deliver today.

My friend is heartbroken at the thought of her niece being born today on what should have been her second childs birthday!!

I ranted and went mad.....I remember saying, whilst pointing vaguely at the sky 'Oh yes I have no doubt that God will allow this to happen...no doubt whatsoever because he is a sarcastic git!! If there is a God who has powers like the Bible says he has how come he did NOTHING to prevent his own child from being crucified!!' My friends were ROFL but saying 'You are going to get struck by lightning on the way home!!'

Well, guess what, I wasn't!! I used to have strong religious beliefs but - no more!!

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shabbapinkfrog · 08/03/2010 06:40

Morning girls xx

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travellingwilbury · 08/03/2010 07:30

Morning all x

hazygirl · 08/03/2010 07:34

morning girlsx

crumpette · 08/03/2010 10:28

Oh shabs, has anyone ever said to you ''it's God's will''

wtf@!!!??? someone said that to me about L, as IF that comment will make me feel anything but anger! Seriously!!!

ehem, good morning girls!

shabbapinkfrog · 08/03/2010 11:00

Oh yes love - several times -

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Sunflowersintherain · 08/03/2010 16:08

peterpansmum - I hope you've had a better day today. x

crumpette - I think I know what you mean about your daughter. She sounds so gorgeous. Sometimes these little ones that leave us pack an awful lot of living into their short days. I know that I felt J was a lot older than her five years - older than me sometimes. And don't say you're a useless blob! You do these things in your own time and when you feel able to. There's no rush, and maybe you'll find a different way that means the most for you and your family. x

shabba - hope you're ok. xx

shabbapinkfrog · 09/03/2010 06:42

Morning girls xx

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hazygirl · 09/03/2010 07:31

morning girlsxxx

peterpansmum · 09/03/2010 09:08

Morning everyone xx

Slightly better day generally yesterday but a very difficult diet day - stuck it out but very tough.

Did your friends sister have her baby yesterday shabs? That is a very cruel twist of fate indeed and one i'd find very hard to cope with.

I had to step away from a friend's facebook comment babbling on about how wonderful God was last week when I was on a total downer - if he is so f'ing wonderful why was i not celebrating a wee lad's 3rd birthday instead of the total emptyness i was actually experiencing!!!!

How's everyone else doing?

shelleylou · 09/03/2010 09:45

Pleased your slightly better today PPM.

Im surviving. My head keeps going under atm dont know if its because i have the courtcase with crappy charges against the person who killed my brother in a few or cos its getting even closer to my wedding (just under 2 months) and my brother isn't going to be there or a combination of the 2.

peterpansmum · 09/03/2010 09:51

Am sure it'll be a combination of both Shelley. Your wedding will feel a bit strange I'm sure without your brother but maybe you could try to find a way to incorporate him into it? Someone I spoke to recently who lost her niece... when she got married she gave everyone a wee star badge which was supplied from the cot death trust and it wasn't til she looked back at the photos that she had a real wave of feeling that her niece was with them that day as so many people were wearing the badges in the photos and video.

shabbapinkfrog · 09/03/2010 09:52

Shelley - I reckon its a combination of the two things. Dont forget though your brother will be at your wedding - maybe not physically (which i know is what you want more than anything) but he will be 'there' all day - I know that is a crap sentence but thats something I really, really believe in.

Best friends sisters labour pains stopped and she is now 2 days overdue - not because she is overdue just glad that my friend didn't have to paint the smile on and pretend that everything is just fine!!

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shabbapinkfrog · 09/03/2010 09:54

Oh PPM what a brilliant, brilliant idea.

Danny and Em are hoping to get married next year - Im going to suggest that they work something into their wedding like that - thats just fantastic xx

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peterpansmum · 09/03/2010 10:00

Hey Shabs glad to be of use ha ha!! I thought it was a fab idea... It just so happens that the cot death trust ones are pin badges of two pink stars together which was just so appropriate for her wee niece... Could be anything - all sorts of charities do them - I love the wee daffodils that are out just now from the marie curie cancer charity. Daffodils will always remind me of Gregor.

Am also very glad and relieved that her labour pains have stopped - it just would have been so wrong for that wee one to have been born yesterday of all days xx Been thinking of you and Vicki's lovely mum recently.

shelleylou · 09/03/2010 10:01

Thats a fantastic idea PPM. I have a candle for my brother and the verse ios very him it says about smiling which is Matt through and through and the button hole DP was going to wear is being put with it and he's going to wear 1 like matt was going to. He had his button hole go with him but i might put on with his casket before i leave mums house. Dad is mentioning him in his spech and im going to do one and mention him. He's also mentioned in the order of service and i'm going to get some JD and cokes in for my parents db and I to have a toast to him to as i'm doing my toast to absent loved ones. (no one knows im doing a speach lol)

I'd love to have him there physically he was so looking forward to it and being an usher. Would tell his friends about it and he was proud etc.

shabbapinkfrog · 09/03/2010 10:05

Oh Shelley - the words 'smiling' and 'Matt' go together for my Matt as well.

Even after all these years people still say to me 'Oh yes I remember your little lad - he always had a massive smile on his face.'

I know that we miss our children/grandchildren/siblings so much that it hurts - but oh we were so lucky to have them even for that short while xx

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