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Eris' thread for bereaved mummies

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feedmenow · 16/04/2008 16:28

OK, so the thread begins! I tried to think og something better to call it, but all I have in my head (still) is Shabsters comment about how it would have been better if we'd all met on a thread called 'how to cope with excessive wind'!

Anyway, we have somewhere to come now. Somewhere 'proper' where we can chat and remember our precious lost children, whether they were stillborn like my angel, or whether they were with us for 2 hours, 2 weeks, 2 months, 2 years or 20 years. No matter how long they were here it is still so very wrong to lose a child.

I just wanted to tell you all about yesterday. It was such a very strange day. Dp and I were collected by the FD in the limo that Eris was in and we drove slowly down our road behind one of the FD men. I felt like a fraudster, like I was going to be caught out and asked what the hell we were doing 'playing' around.

Anyway, it turns out that the crem we went to is absolutely beautiful, really gogeous gardens. The service was lovely. The songs and music we chose were perfect, and both my mum and mil got up and said some really touching, beautiful words. The minister read a story I had chosen and also an extract from Winnie the Pooh that he suggested. I sat with my dd1 on one side and my ds the other, then dp next to him. We all had our arms around each other and I cried silently throughout. Then at the end the minister asked everyone else to leave so the 4 of us could say our final goodbyes, at which point I started weeping with a vengeance. It wasn't til we went outside to join everyone else that I saw all the people who had come to be with us.

We went back to my parents house for brunch, which went really well. I come from a family who crack open the wine and beer at the earliest opportunity, so the wine flowed along with the tea and coffee for the drivers. It was a beautiful day, the sun shining, so we went into the garden. The children and the men played football, the ladies chatted and did a bit of skipping (who would have ever known that I could still 'jump in'???. I had got some helium balloons printed with the words "Too beautiful for earth..." so everyone released one and 'raised a toast' to Eris. People gradually drifted off home, but a group of people stayed with us all afternoon and into the evening. We had takeaway and eventually got home about 10pm. It was a very special day. I talked about Eris lots and, very importantly, people had fun. A very important thing to do, IMO, when celebrating a life instead of mourning a death. As people left I asked them all to be sure to remember my little baby girl, to think of her often and not let her be forgotten.

Dp and I set up a fundraising page to raise money for SaNDS for people to make donations instead of brining flowers. When I checked earlier today, we have had donations of £1360! It makes me sad that we're in the position to have received those donations, but we smile when we realise how much people care.

Anyway, dp went to the FD this afternoon and picked up Eris' ashes, so we at least have now brought our daughter home. It raised a few laughs yesterday when we were asked what we planned to do with the ashes and I said we would bring her home and put her in the wardrobe with nanny (whose ashes have been in my wardrobe for 2 years now!). Some might find this odd, but others thought it touching and comforting that they would be in the wardrobe together.

Anyway, I have wittered on more than I intended. I am pleased to say that I do actually feel a sense of peace now that the funeral is over. Both dp and I had been scared of yesterday as we were both aware that a funeral brings about a finality and reality to what has happened. And somehow, facing that finality has helped me achieve a degree of acceptance.

So, in memory of my precious baby daughter, Eris, I would like to pronounce this thread for bereaved mummies "OPEN"!!

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ILikeToMoveItMoveIt · 24/04/2008 08:40

Morning all.

Shabster, I love your idea with the pots. Your little man sounds lovely - he must take after his mum
I had a look on the multiples thread and I'm glad to hear things are going as well as they can for Trips husband.

It's a beautiful day here, and I'm off out this morning to see my friend and her kids. She has 3 under 3 - I just don't know how she copes !!

dippymother · 24/04/2008 15:42

Shabs, been over to multiples thread and posted short message to Trips, it seems as though the op went well so very positive so far. Will look on multiples thread occasionally for news, even though I'm not a multiples mum! You have been a great help to Trips but I can't help wondering how you manage to do the housework, with all the messages you post on this site!

shabster · 24/04/2008 16:01

I just pretend Im keeping my houe clean and doing the ironing I just have one son at home and he is 10 - he can entertain himself now, most of the time, my DH has always said 'you can talk a glass eye to sleep!!'

feedmenow · 24/04/2008 16:37

Thats not a phrase I've heard before Shabs...did he make it up or is it something you Northerners say a lot???

As for housework, I swear that if I didn't have a job to go to my house would be even more of a state than it is already! I just have NO motivation for housework and know I would spend all day every day in bed cat-napping (it is my ambition in life to become a cat! Just need to find somewhere that offers the appropriate training, and someone who will re-home me!)

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shabster · 24/04/2008 16:39

FMN - I reckon it is a Lancashire thing!!

Like - 'Hows your belly for spots' when asking a friend how they are.

We are a strange lot

lottiejenkins · 24/04/2008 17:15

My late dh used to say the belly remark shabs....... I hadnt heard anyone else say that youve really made me smile... he also used to say you poke other peoples fires with your fingers when people were sticking their oar in and.... the only thing you put in your ear is your elbow!!! he was a nurse and HATED cotton buds!!!

lottiejenkins · 24/04/2008 17:17

Have just read down on the housework bit.... My lovely friends gave me a fridge magnet that says "I understand the concepts of cooking and cleaning just not how they apply to me!!!"

LouiseAnn · 24/04/2008 17:19

Hello all,
I have just found this thread and spent quite a while reading through.

We lost our oldest son in a road accident last year when he was 11.

As others have said, it is sort of comforting to read about what other people have gone through. I was scared off websites like Compassionate Friends, as it all seemed too dark and depressing. This thread has been more positive.

My life line has been my bereavement counsellor from Cruse (and my anti-depressants!!). I would recommend Cruse to anyone who has been bereaved and it is all free. We have also had a lot of support from our church, our family and our friends. Hardly anyone has said anything insensitive.

I too have wondered how to answer people about how many children I have. Someone asked me the other day and as I don't know her very well and it wasn't the place to chat, I just said that Alex was an only child. I wanted to say our other son died last year and I have another one on the way, but it just wasn't the right occasion. When I set up my profile on Mumsnet I wanted to put James down as my child, but there was no place to put date of death. He was my son for eleven years, two months and three days, He made me into a mmummy. I am still his mum.

Well done to all who have been brave enough to share here.

Better go and make tea now.
xx

lottiejenkins · 24/04/2008 17:28

Welcome Louise Ann hugs to you and your family xx

ILikeToMoveItMoveIt · 24/04/2008 17:37

Hi LouiseAnn - you are so right, you still are James' mummy and you always will be. When I lost ds (our only child) I thought I wouldn't feel like a mummy anymore, but I still do. I know it's not quite the same, but I understand why parents of adult children still feel that their children are their babies. It is a tie that can never ever be undone.

shabster · 24/04/2008 17:56

Lou - Welcome to Eris' thread.

Sorry for your sad loss

I just did my profile over again and I have put all my sons down. Change yours if you aren't happy love.

I lost my 7 year old in a road accident - I can imagine how you are feeling.

Stay with all the lovely ladies on here. Everybody helping each other. We are all at different stages with different losses and different memories. I think that is why, somehow, it works

LouiseAnn · 24/04/2008 22:54

Shabster - I have now updated my public profile. I have used the free form section like you have. Thanks for the encouragement.

I can't imagine what it has been like for you to lose two boys. We are coping quite well with James' loss at the moment, but I wonder how we will be when another big bad thing happens, such as one of our parents dying.

frasersmummy · 24/04/2008 22:57

I have just been catching up after a few days

I cant find the multiples thread .. (thick moment} how is trips holding up. Can someone who frequents both threads , please tell her that both her and her dh are in my thoughts and prayers

Shabster I was moved to tears that you saw your forget me nots and said good morning to my Fraser.

Lou I am glad you have joined us but sorry that you are a member of this club

It is hard when someone asks you how many children you have,when its someone I dont know I will usually just say ross is an only child. But every time I do this I come home very upset because I have denied Fraser.

Jut another hurdle along this terrible journey we are all on

I am right cheery tonight!!!! sorry

shabster · 24/04/2008 23:22

Right my darlings I am going to bed. I say Kale Nita (Greek for good night) and I will see you all in the morning. The forget me nots have a life of their own. They are breeding as we speak!! I am quietly a bit drunk.

feedmenow · 25/04/2008 10:59

Anyone watch jeremy Kyle this morning? There was a bloke on there talking about something that is my worst nightmare!! I used to get through it by thinking it would never actually happen but now I know it has happened, probably soo many times. For anyone feeling delicate or sensitive don't read on. Basically, the bloke helps in war zones and was told that some poor, poor women in Afghanistan (I think) was stopped by a soldier who basically made her chose which of her children he was going to shoot. She begged him to shoot her instead but he wouldn't, so she had to chose between her toddler and her baby The women is now in a psychiatric unit. The thought makes me feel so very, very sick and sickened. How can human beings do this sort of thing to each other? Accidents and illnesses are horrific enough to cope with, let alone atrocities like this!!!

Anyway, Louiseann has just joined us saying how its lovely that we aren't all dark and morbid, and what have I gone and done? Depressed everyone I expect. I shall slap my own wrists accordingly!

However, I'm gong to be down for just a moment longer. Today is my birthday and the only thing I want is something I can't ever have I've always loved birthdays before, but today I just feel sad and empty. I think I will go and light a candle for my baby girl...

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ILikeToMoveItMoveIt · 25/04/2008 11:03

Morning FMN. Happy Birthday xx

I know how you feel though. My birthday was about a month after Cole died and I just felt hollow and empty. To be frank I couldn't have given a shit that it was my birthday, it seemed so bloody trivial compared to the situation we found ourselves in.

Much love to you today xx

shabster · 25/04/2008 11:29

FMN - Happy, happy, happy birthday sweetheart. I hope you have a good day, a calm day and please remember we are all in your corner.

I watched Jeremy Kyle and had to turn it over when he told that awful Hope this will make you smile

shabster · 25/04/2008 11:31

youtube.com/watch?v=sOa2LMa4XS0

Will try that again - I am so 'great' on the computer - NOT

feedmenow · 25/04/2008 12:04

Thats fantastic!!!

But just one question....why does any parent inflict a haircut like that on their child?????

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lilyloo · 25/04/2008 12:10

FMN am watching this thread but feel like i can't really post anything as the others here have so much more idea what your feeling but wanted to wish you a happy birthday, sorry it's not an easy or happy one

shabster · 25/04/2008 12:19

Im sure I have a photo of myself at that age with that same haircut

It is funny though isin't it? Whenever I need a laugh I always have a watch of that.

frasersmummy · 25/04/2008 13:52

happy birthday fmn..

I dont really know what else to say except I remember the empty feeling all too well

sending you b/day hugs

feedmenow · 25/04/2008 14:40

Thanks Lily. Feel free to come and say anything you want to say! I hope we're not ALL doom & gloom!

Shabs, I actually think that haircut is compulsory for ALL children to have at some point in their lives. Although I am pleased to say I haven't forced upon my cherubs yet!

Thanks all for the birthday wishes. Another candle on the cake tonight....

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hazygirl · 25/04/2008 14:59

fmn happy birthdayx big hugs and thinking of youxx

lottiejenkins · 25/04/2008 16:48

Happy Birthday FMN..........
www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJ1uSAxqUuc

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