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Eris' thread for bereaved mummies

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feedmenow · 16/04/2008 16:28

OK, so the thread begins! I tried to think og something better to call it, but all I have in my head (still) is Shabsters comment about how it would have been better if we'd all met on a thread called 'how to cope with excessive wind'!

Anyway, we have somewhere to come now. Somewhere 'proper' where we can chat and remember our precious lost children, whether they were stillborn like my angel, or whether they were with us for 2 hours, 2 weeks, 2 months, 2 years or 20 years. No matter how long they were here it is still so very wrong to lose a child.

I just wanted to tell you all about yesterday. It was such a very strange day. Dp and I were collected by the FD in the limo that Eris was in and we drove slowly down our road behind one of the FD men. I felt like a fraudster, like I was going to be caught out and asked what the hell we were doing 'playing' around.

Anyway, it turns out that the crem we went to is absolutely beautiful, really gogeous gardens. The service was lovely. The songs and music we chose were perfect, and both my mum and mil got up and said some really touching, beautiful words. The minister read a story I had chosen and also an extract from Winnie the Pooh that he suggested. I sat with my dd1 on one side and my ds the other, then dp next to him. We all had our arms around each other and I cried silently throughout. Then at the end the minister asked everyone else to leave so the 4 of us could say our final goodbyes, at which point I started weeping with a vengeance. It wasn't til we went outside to join everyone else that I saw all the people who had come to be with us.

We went back to my parents house for brunch, which went really well. I come from a family who crack open the wine and beer at the earliest opportunity, so the wine flowed along with the tea and coffee for the drivers. It was a beautiful day, the sun shining, so we went into the garden. The children and the men played football, the ladies chatted and did a bit of skipping (who would have ever known that I could still 'jump in'???. I had got some helium balloons printed with the words "Too beautiful for earth..." so everyone released one and 'raised a toast' to Eris. People gradually drifted off home, but a group of people stayed with us all afternoon and into the evening. We had takeaway and eventually got home about 10pm. It was a very special day. I talked about Eris lots and, very importantly, people had fun. A very important thing to do, IMO, when celebrating a life instead of mourning a death. As people left I asked them all to be sure to remember my little baby girl, to think of her often and not let her be forgotten.

Dp and I set up a fundraising page to raise money for SaNDS for people to make donations instead of brining flowers. When I checked earlier today, we have had donations of £1360! It makes me sad that we're in the position to have received those donations, but we smile when we realise how much people care.

Anyway, dp went to the FD this afternoon and picked up Eris' ashes, so we at least have now brought our daughter home. It raised a few laughs yesterday when we were asked what we planned to do with the ashes and I said we would bring her home and put her in the wardrobe with nanny (whose ashes have been in my wardrobe for 2 years now!). Some might find this odd, but others thought it touching and comforting that they would be in the wardrobe together.

Anyway, I have wittered on more than I intended. I am pleased to say that I do actually feel a sense of peace now that the funeral is over. Both dp and I had been scared of yesterday as we were both aware that a funeral brings about a finality and reality to what has happened. And somehow, facing that finality has helped me achieve a degree of acceptance.

So, in memory of my precious baby daughter, Eris, I would like to pronounce this thread for bereaved mummies "OPEN"!!

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Doobydoo · 25/04/2008 20:54

Hello Louiseann[many hugs to you and your family]and Welcome to this strange and wonderful thread.
Happy Birthday FMN and hugs to you.

shabster · 25/04/2008 20:59

My DS4 Tommy - he just lifted up his arm and said 'mum I smell like a man' [puke emoticon] and he was right he does. Puberty is just around the next corner. He is sitting in the bath as we speak

Doobydoo · 25/04/2008 21:00

Shabster.I have all that ahead of me

shabster · 25/04/2008 21:01

I bought him a roll on deodorant a few weeks ago - he's not great with sprays. He thinks I am a marvellous mum cause I just produced the deodorant out of thin air.

Doobydoo · 25/04/2008 21:05

FMN...Going back to the Jeremy Kyle programme you mentioned.There is a very famous book set during the 2nd World War called Sophie's Choice.About a Jewish mother in a concentaration camp that has to choose which of her 2 children will live.For some reason this has been haunting me for a month or 2.I have not read the book but every now and then I skim over the idea of what would I do if faced with that choice?I try to not think about it.and I do wonder at the type of person that would perpetarate such an act upon another.

Doobydoo · 25/04/2008 21:06

How about Lynx?The adverts are fab.AND when I worked as a nurse all the teenage boys had different Lynx spraysQuite a wiff at times

Doobydoo · 25/04/2008 21:07

Just read re sprays.Maybe they do roll on ones there is a chocolate one...apparently

shabster · 25/04/2008 21:13

I love the film Schindlers list (is that the right title) but I find it very hard to watch. The little boy who is one of the main characters is the image of my son Matt and his face haunts me. I am glad I wasn't alive in those days - the sacrifice of the people was so overwhelming.

I had to turn Jeremy Kyle off this morning. I would love to be hypnotised and 'made' to say how I am feeling. I did see a very good psychiatrist once but just ended up saying 'I'm fine thanks.' Also very interested in regression.

Oh yes and the chocolate lynx - DH has that and it does smell good.

I think Im mentally ill - deodorant and the holocaust all in one post

Doobydoo · 25/04/2008 21:21

I know what you mean.I think though I have things lurking still i expect we all do.I attempted counnselling but just felt the can of worms to be too big to be fully opened.I find it more helpful to talk with people who have been through similar .

frasersmummy · 25/04/2008 21:39

I tried counselling once..

this mad woman was sat there saying can you feel inside your body .. ehh???

can you feel your kidneys and your spleen?? I came soo close to saying the day I can feel them I will be visiting a doctor not a counsellor. I just never went back

I think you either make a connection or not

I often think about trying again but never actually do it .

shabster · 25/04/2008 21:43

My friend always says to me 'you are not wrapped right.' Lancashire saying for you are not quite mentally normal.

But I love what she has started saying 'You're not wrapped right Shabba but I like the way you are wrapped.'

Think you are probably right about Eris' thread being more helpful. Think we are a good mixture of experiences and ideas.

Doobydoo · 25/04/2008 22:07

Yes,I think so too Shabster.Though there are still things I couldn't say or type ...it is a helpful thread in many,many ways.

feedmenow · 26/04/2008 11:32

Mmmm, teenage boys and Lynx Oriental....

And, no, I'm not being a pervy grown woman lusting after teenage boys, I am meerly floating gently back to my own teenage years and remembering my lustful thoughts from back then!

Lottie, thank you for the wonderful rendition of Happy Birthday. I always forget what a groovy version he did!

Well, my birthday evening turned out quite nicely in the end, much aided by a generous helping of vino and my lovely family. I got some lovely, lovely gifts but I think my favourite is a ticket to Wembley Arena to go and see Def Leppard And Whitesnake!!!! I absolutely LOVE Def Leppard and am well chuffed at the present!!

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feedmenow · 26/04/2008 11:37

And as for counselling, I've been in the past for other things and never thought much of it. Infact, I've seen counsellors, psychiatrists and psychologists over the years and think they all suck. Even had a bit of CBT and didn't rate that, so perhaps I'm just not the sort of person to gain from it. Like FM said, you either make a connection or you don't.
But I have an appt with the hospital bereavement counsellor in a couple of weeks. I think if I'd started going straight after Eris was born then it might have helped cos I had so much going on in my head. But I'm not too sure how much help she'll be for me now. I mean, I've accepted the facts and know that nothing can change what happened. All thats left is the broken heart, and I don't reckon a counsellor can do anything about that, can they? But I'll give it a go.....

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feedmenow · 26/04/2008 11:41

Only great minds can read this.
This is weird, but interesting!

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Cna yuo raed tihs? Olny 55 plepoe out of 100 can.
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chegirl · 26/04/2008 17:51

Hi everyone here,

I am sorry to hear about the loss of your lovely children.

Tommorow it will be two years since I lost my beautiful girl. She died in her daddy's and my arms aged 14. She was a remarkable person and I miss her more than I can say. Her name is BILLIE x

shabster · 26/04/2008 17:57

chegirl - I am so sorry for your loss. Billie - I like that name. 2 years is still very 'early days' isin't it? I will be thinking of you tomorrow - I know you will get support and friendship from the lovely ladies on Eris' thread. Welcome.

dippymother · 26/04/2008 20:14

Hi chegirl, so sorry to hear about the loss of your daughter, Billie. The anniversary is always a very difficult day and still very recent for you. Can I ask what happened or am I being too nosy?

lottiejenkins · 26/04/2008 21:20

We cannot judge a biography by its length, by the number of pages in it. We must judge it by the richness of its contents - Sometimes those unfinished are among the most beautiful.
Victor Frankl "Mans search for meaning"

chegirl · 26/04/2008 21:44

Hi Guys,

Dippy I dont mind you asking. I like talking about my Billie girl. She had leukemia. She had nearly two years of treatment and had a really really hard time of it. I dont think it ever went away and she relapsed and left us about 6 weeks later. She was amazing. So beautiful and clever. I never did quite manage to work out how I managed to produce such a child! I am feeling ok. I am suprised but glad. I had a real breakdown this time last year and dont want to go there again. I am planning to spend tommorow transforming my 'trailer trash' front garden into a lovley Billie garden.
Shabs - thankyou, Billie was named after Billie Holiday, my fav singer.
Lottie - the words are beautiful and so true.
Are we allowed to post links here? If so I can post a link to Billie's page and you can see what I mean about my special girl.

triplets · 26/04/2008 22:24

Dearest Chegirl, your message has so touched my heart tonight, I feel for you as only another Mother can who has lost her child. I too lost my son when he was 14, that was in 1994, he collapsed and died instantly in my garden, no explanation. There is never a day goes by Matthew is not in my mind and in my heart. I will love and miss him to the day I die. Anniversaries, the word never seems right, are always difficult, I find the build up worse than the actual day, I still get upset 14 years later that so few people remember, I used to get cards from my family, not now. This year is a big hurdle for me as Matthew will have been gone 14 years, and he was with us for 14 years. I will be thinking of you and Billie xx

triplets · 26/04/2008 22:25

We would love to see Billie xxx

triplets · 26/04/2008 22:26

Chegirl, do you live in America?

shabster · 27/04/2008 07:13

Thinking of Billie today

Morning girls, why am I awake sooooo early on a Sunday?

lottiejenkins · 27/04/2008 08:33

www.lifetocome.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=31
This is a link to a lovely small book. "A collection of thoughts and parayers gathered from many sources, for those experiencing the death of a child".

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